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Jan 25, 2020
9:24:40am

COACHdrn All-American

Criddle talked about these exact scenarios a few months ago. He suggested...

...that BYU take advantage of the tech center Utah County is becoming, BYU's smart and successful alumin base, etc.

But can you imagine guys like Brian Santiago, Tom Holmoe, and just about everyone else over there, etc, accepting help from anybody? Never gonna happen.

Like other posters in this thread have said... This story is sad, but not surprising.

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COACHdrn

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Speaking of recruiting. I own a software company that the U uses to recruit.

sandYego

1/25/20 8:17am

Is your software called PAC 12?

jpal1397

1/25/20 8:30am

BYU has a powerful story. They just need a better way of telling it to 18 yo’s

sandYego

1/25/20 8:34am

agreed...they’re not interested in their Grandad’s BYU

icecougar

1/26/20 5:24pm

Ok, this might be the funniest post I’ve seen in a while

1/25/20 12:32pm

Most accurate post of jpal lifetime

Big Daddy D

1/25/20 3:46pm

RE: Is your software called PAC 12?

RalphWiggam

1/25/20 3:52pm

Well played, sir!

YSMACK

1/26/20 2:29am

Buffoons. All of them.

Backcountry

1/25/20 8:30am

That's an understatement. Pride precedes the fall. This fall sucks too.

TheWoodman

1/25/20 10:07am

There’s always next fall though. 😊

PJMort

1/25/20 10:16am

You sure you have it in you to call Kalani a buffoon?

ldssdl

1/25/20 10:46am

He kind of is though. Props to backcountry for calling it like it is.

TheWoodman

1/25/20 1:11pm

Ill admit that I surprised and dissapointed the staff wasnt shaken up

Backcountry

1/25/20 1:13pm

If the shoe fits .

kahuna

1/25/20 2:32pm

Certainly acting like buffoons. This fan is not impressed by the lack of candor, non-ownership of mistakes, and

1/25/20 5:05pm

can u do us a favor and give it to the coogs 4 free?

thebruce

1/25/20 8:30am

We tried. They were above it.

sandYego

1/25/20 8:33am

Ouch. Not surprising, though.

dilbert

1/25/20 8:46am

And that right there paints a picture of why BYU doesn’t live up to their

Coug Man in Florida

1/25/20 1:13pm

How about planting a bug that sabotages the U?

jaredm

1/25/20 1:28pm

So this was under Bronco? Have you gone to Tasha Bell with this?

BlackBart

1/25/20 8:35am

Nope. New administration.

sandYego

1/25/20 8:36am

Who was it presented to? Jack D? Did this make its way to Kalani/Tom?

BlackBart

1/25/20 8:48am

hate to break it to you, if it's the new admin after Bronco, then it wasn't a gamechanger. The game changed before that

indocoug

1/27/20 7:49am

Nice try.

coolblue

1/25/20 5:58pm

Not sure what this means. OP said KVN made the intro

BlackBart

1/25/20 6:18pm

Didn’t say KVN was a student

pilot17

1/25/20 6:26pm

How many other schools are using it?

cougarfann888

1/25/20 8:37am

Les Miles at Kansas. ND is getting close. Schools are not our primary target.

sandYego

1/25/20 8:40am

I can believe this, we offered BYU a free platform.....

Canusa

1/25/20 8:52am

This and everything else in this thread pisses me off. Byu is full of some

Ash

1/25/20 9:29am

This thread is anecdotal bologna. It’s simply the product on the field...

PJMort

1/25/20 9:38am

But it's clear symptoms of a program that is satisfied. They do not pursue

Ash

1/25/20 9:47am

That might be true... but this story is not proof of that.

PJMort

1/25/20 9:54am

Let me shed some more light to my post

Canusa

1/25/20 10:15am

I just think it's double speak. Doing anything "extra" at byu is seen as perhaps

Ash

1/25/20 11:15am

Why are "higher ups" involved in whether a team is uses a free software tool?

CougarThug

1/25/20 9:15pm

Sometimes it’s not as simple as just getting the software

Cougar Geek

1/27/20 7:43am

Dude. Do you not spend time on this board?: There are so many examples of byu

Ash

1/25/20 10:26am

And even more examples of CBers making assumptions and being wrong.

PJMort

1/25/20 11:10am

I think this anecdote supports your point.

StalwartBraveTrue

1/25/20 10:32am

No it's not. Andy Phillips and Matt Gay are other examples

Everyman

1/25/20 11:10am

Not properly utilizing your resources to overcome disadvantages

pilot17

1/25/20 1:59pm

It's not bologna it's the status quo at BYU and it's not limited to athletics. It's a campus-wide problem

TEXAS

1/25/20 5:08pm

Pompous, pious ,prideful,morons?

1/25/20 2:20pm

Same attitude that killed the BIG12 for BYU. TH/BOT....

blackshirts

1/25/20 5:50pm

There is no demand

Tsisquan

1/26/20 10:41pm

Nobody has any idea what this platform is, how good it is, or what value it

MarkWatney

1/25/20 5:56pm

That is not the point. The admin dismissed it w/o giving it any serious thought

Ash

1/25/20 6:38pm

You have no idea how much thought it was given, or more importantly

MarkWatney

1/25/20 6:47pm

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Abe Froman

1/25/20 8:41pm

Even the interviewing process for employment is ridiculous.

Big McLargeHuge

1/26/20 12:09am

Why would someone with a doctorate even apply?

USMCdad

1/26/20 7:10am

Because the pay was awesome. No matter what my qualifications were

Big McLargeHuge

1/27/20 7:06pm

nobody should be surprised BYU isn't in a P5..

franklyvulgar

1/25/20 8:54am

LOL. This is not even one of the reasons.

Benfica1

1/25/20 10:58am

This should not surprise anyone

argus

1/25/20 9:07am

Criddle talked about these exact scenarios a few months ago. He suggested...

COACHdrn

1/25/20 9:24am

4 years later? So 2015 or 2016? The U joined PAC-12 in 2011.

PJMort

1/25/20 9:27am

I used this story to show the contrast.

sandYego

1/25/20 9:31am

I still reject your premise... it’s about coaching and players

PJMort

1/25/20 9:44am

Good point. Congratulations. Hope you’re not leading an organization though.

sandYego

1/25/20 9:48am

Thanks.

PJMort

1/25/20 9:59am

If it is about coaching and players, and if sandYego has a product to help land

Iron Coug

1/25/20 10:00am

You and I probably agree on that.

PJMort

1/25/20 10:11am

I really don’t have an axe to grind. I’m just a passionate fan.

sandYego

1/25/20 10:23am

To quote you “Congratulations, I hope you’re not leading an organization though.

PJMort

1/25/20 11:01am

On the same token, why blindly defend the administration?

1/25/20 12:06pm

I guess because someone needs to point out the flaws in the group think going on

PJMort

1/25/20 12:35pm

Funny you cite Criddle who has been the most vocal critic of the byu

Ash

1/25/20 3:03pm

Ok. Peace Ash. I hope things improve with the football team. Go Cougs!

PJMort

1/25/20 3:29pm

Truly nobody cares about olympic sports.

Backcountry

1/25/20 10:02am

Just use basketball then. Same story.

PJMort

1/25/20 10:12am

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sandYego

1/25/20 10:13am

I actively follow women's soccer, men's tennis, and men's volleyball. I care

Iron Coug

1/25/20 10:14am

You can’t see coaches and players are the POINT of this product? Sorry 😐

ZooBlue

1/25/20 1:34pm

You might want to look at the Deseret Dual results for the past few years.

CougarThug

1/25/20 9:18pm

No it’s not.

greatbam

1/26/20 5:21am

This is somewhat akin to Nu Skin wanting to donate a legitimate big screen but BYU declined and opted for the equivalent

Zach Morris

1/25/20 12:03pm

Well where do you think that mindset comes from? An institution

1/25/20 12:19pm

A culture that they are trying really hard to change now worldwide

Coop

1/25/20 12:21pm

I mean, why would they? For what reason would they need to at BYU?

1/25/20 12:29pm

As a fanbase I think we need to accept this.

wilsdad

1/25/20 3:08pm

They'll never hire someone from the outside anyway.

1/25/20 3:17pm

Most likely.

wilsdad

1/25/20 3:26pm

What I heard was the neighbors prevented that from happening and not admin

stickygloves

1/25/20 1:07pm

The school not fighting for permission for the stadium to be loud six times a

vagabonder

1/25/20 1:33pm

The screen does not make noise. The sound system does. I don't buy it.

coolblue

1/25/20 6:05pm

In fairness those numbers are dwindling

TNT

1/25/20 8:17pm

Miami was your first customer?

pappabear246

1/25/20 12:09pm

WarRoom?

1/25/20 12:40pm

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Abe Froman

1/25/20 1:09pm

So you’re saying BYU follows the same pattern as the church?

LifelongAP

1/25/20 12:42pm

Nice try. BYU already had Warroom. It was custom built for BYU by my

chazen

1/25/20 1:12pm

Doing something completely different.

sandYego

1/25/20 1:49pm

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Abe Froman

1/25/20 2:19pm

Impressive. So you invented software that flags Utah anytime byu offers a kid?

viper

1/25/20 1:39pm

this isn't entirely true.

1/25/20 3:00pm

Explain. Don't leave us haning.

Archaea

1/25/20 3:50pm

I can confirm your statement is very true.

COACHdrn

1/25/20 10:25pm

I don’t need to explain.

2/2/20 4:41pm

Not surprising to me at all

Resurgens

1/25/20 4:21pm

CB goes into full "condemn BYU" mode on the report of a biased party. So typical

Jasbo

1/25/20 5:09pm

Amen 🙏🏻

MarkWatney

1/25/20 6:49pm

Its not just this issue. BYU is George Costanza. They are buffoons. Nearly

Backcountry

1/26/20 11:19am

This. It's not this in and of itself, it just reinforces the idea that BYU

Resurgens

1/26/20 1:07pm

I know nothing about your software, but I do know that the BYU admin is, as a

Real Men Wear Blue

1/26/20 1:22pm

Do you scan police blotters from around the country

TunaNoCrust

1/26/20 4:00pm

You realize how petty this sounds? "BYU didn't pick me. They're stupid."

Accipiter

1/26/20 9:53pm

Mr. Sand Yego, would love to hear more testimonials

caibero

1/26/20 10:26pm

Thanks for helping Utah’s program

D.T. Survivor

1/27/20 10:22am

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