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Jan 25, 2020
10:32:55am

StalwartBraveTrue All-American

I think this anecdote supports your point.

You say coaching and he says look at the mindset of these coaches and their admin.

There is a mindset among the great and very good coaches that this group doesn’t have.

So it may be anecdote. It it supports your premise that coaching is the key.

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StalwartBraveTrue

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Speaking of recruiting. I own a software company that the U uses to recruit.

sandYego

1/25/20 8:17am

Is your software called PAC 12?

jpal1397

1/25/20 8:30am

BYU has a powerful story. They just need a better way of telling it to 18 yo’s

sandYego

1/25/20 8:34am

agreed...they’re not interested in their Grandad’s BYU

icecougar

1/26/20 5:24pm

Ok, this might be the funniest post I’ve seen in a while

1/25/20 12:32pm

Most accurate post of jpal lifetime

Big Daddy D

1/25/20 3:46pm

RE: Is your software called PAC 12?

RalphWiggam

1/25/20 3:52pm

Well played, sir!

YSMACK

1/26/20 2:29am

Buffoons. All of them.

Backcountry

1/25/20 8:30am

That's an understatement. Pride precedes the fall. This fall sucks too.

TheWoodman

1/25/20 10:07am

There’s always next fall though. 😊

PJMort

1/25/20 10:16am

You sure you have it in you to call Kalani a buffoon?

ldssdl

1/25/20 10:46am

He kind of is though. Props to backcountry for calling it like it is.

TheWoodman

1/25/20 1:11pm

Ill admit that I surprised and dissapointed the staff wasnt shaken up

Backcountry

1/25/20 1:13pm

If the shoe fits .

kahuna

1/25/20 2:32pm

Certainly acting like buffoons. This fan is not impressed by the lack of candor, non-ownership of mistakes, and

1/25/20 5:05pm

can u do us a favor and give it to the coogs 4 free?

thebruce

1/25/20 8:30am

We tried. They were above it.

sandYego

1/25/20 8:33am

Ouch. Not surprising, though.

dilbert

1/25/20 8:46am

And that right there paints a picture of why BYU doesn’t live up to their

Coug Man in Florida

1/25/20 1:13pm

How about planting a bug that sabotages the U?

jaredm

1/25/20 1:28pm

So this was under Bronco? Have you gone to Tasha Bell with this?

BlackBart

1/25/20 8:35am

Nope. New administration.

sandYego

1/25/20 8:36am

Who was it presented to? Jack D? Did this make its way to Kalani/Tom?

BlackBart

1/25/20 8:48am

hate to break it to you, if it's the new admin after Bronco, then it wasn't a gamechanger. The game changed before that

indocoug

1/27/20 7:49am

Nice try.

coolblue

1/25/20 5:58pm

Not sure what this means. OP said KVN made the intro

BlackBart

1/25/20 6:18pm

Didn’t say KVN was a student

pilot17

1/25/20 6:26pm

How many other schools are using it?

cougarfann888

1/25/20 8:37am

Les Miles at Kansas. ND is getting close. Schools are not our primary target.

sandYego

1/25/20 8:40am

I can believe this, we offered BYU a free platform.....

Canusa

1/25/20 8:52am

This and everything else in this thread pisses me off. Byu is full of some

Ash

1/25/20 9:29am

This thread is anecdotal bologna. It’s simply the product on the field...

PJMort

1/25/20 9:38am

But it's clear symptoms of a program that is satisfied. They do not pursue

Ash

1/25/20 9:47am

That might be true... but this story is not proof of that.

PJMort

1/25/20 9:54am

Let me shed some more light to my post

Canusa

1/25/20 10:15am

I just think it's double speak. Doing anything "extra" at byu is seen as perhaps

Ash

1/25/20 11:15am

Why are "higher ups" involved in whether a team is uses a free software tool?

CougarThug

1/25/20 9:15pm

Sometimes it’s not as simple as just getting the software

Cougar Geek

1/27/20 7:43am

Dude. Do you not spend time on this board?: There are so many examples of byu

Ash

1/25/20 10:26am

And even more examples of CBers making assumptions and being wrong.

PJMort

1/25/20 11:10am

I think this anecdote supports your point.

StalwartBraveTrue

1/25/20 10:32am

No it's not. Andy Phillips and Matt Gay are other examples

Everyman

1/25/20 11:10am

Not properly utilizing your resources to overcome disadvantages

pilot17

1/25/20 1:59pm

It's not bologna it's the status quo at BYU and it's not limited to athletics. It's a campus-wide problem

TEXAS

1/25/20 5:08pm

Pompous, pious ,prideful,morons?

1/25/20 2:20pm

Same attitude that killed the BIG12 for BYU. TH/BOT....

blackshirts

1/25/20 5:50pm

There is no demand

Tsisquan

1/26/20 10:41pm

Nobody has any idea what this platform is, how good it is, or what value it

MarkWatney

1/25/20 5:56pm

That is not the point. The admin dismissed it w/o giving it any serious thought

Ash

1/25/20 6:38pm

You have no idea how much thought it was given, or more importantly

MarkWatney

1/25/20 6:47pm

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Abe Froman

1/25/20 8:41pm

Even the interviewing process for employment is ridiculous.

Big McLargeHuge

1/26/20 12:09am

Why would someone with a doctorate even apply?

USMCdad

1/26/20 7:10am

Because the pay was awesome. No matter what my qualifications were

Big McLargeHuge

1/27/20 7:06pm

nobody should be surprised BYU isn't in a P5..

franklyvulgar

1/25/20 8:54am

LOL. This is not even one of the reasons.

Benfica1

1/25/20 10:58am

This should not surprise anyone

argus

1/25/20 9:07am

Criddle talked about these exact scenarios a few months ago. He suggested...

COACHdrn

1/25/20 9:24am

4 years later? So 2015 or 2016? The U joined PAC-12 in 2011.

PJMort

1/25/20 9:27am

I used this story to show the contrast.

sandYego

1/25/20 9:31am

I still reject your premise... it’s about coaching and players

PJMort

1/25/20 9:44am

Good point. Congratulations. Hope you’re not leading an organization though.

sandYego

1/25/20 9:48am

Thanks.

PJMort

1/25/20 9:59am

If it is about coaching and players, and if sandYego has a product to help land

Iron Coug

1/25/20 10:00am

You and I probably agree on that.

PJMort

1/25/20 10:11am

I really don’t have an axe to grind. I’m just a passionate fan.

sandYego

1/25/20 10:23am

To quote you “Congratulations, I hope you’re not leading an organization though.

PJMort

1/25/20 11:01am

On the same token, why blindly defend the administration?

1/25/20 12:06pm

I guess because someone needs to point out the flaws in the group think going on

PJMort

1/25/20 12:35pm

Funny you cite Criddle who has been the most vocal critic of the byu

Ash

1/25/20 3:03pm

Ok. Peace Ash. I hope things improve with the football team. Go Cougs!

PJMort

1/25/20 3:29pm

Truly nobody cares about olympic sports.

Backcountry

1/25/20 10:02am

Just use basketball then. Same story.

PJMort

1/25/20 10:12am

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sandYego

1/25/20 10:13am

I actively follow women's soccer, men's tennis, and men's volleyball. I care

Iron Coug

1/25/20 10:14am

You can’t see coaches and players are the POINT of this product? Sorry 😐

ZooBlue

1/25/20 1:34pm

You might want to look at the Deseret Dual results for the past few years.

CougarThug

1/25/20 9:18pm

No it’s not.

greatbam

1/26/20 5:21am

This is somewhat akin to Nu Skin wanting to donate a legitimate big screen but BYU declined and opted for the equivalent

Zach Morris

1/25/20 12:03pm

Well where do you think that mindset comes from? An institution

1/25/20 12:19pm

A culture that they are trying really hard to change now worldwide

Coop

1/25/20 12:21pm

I mean, why would they? For what reason would they need to at BYU?

1/25/20 12:29pm

As a fanbase I think we need to accept this.

wilsdad

1/25/20 3:08pm

They'll never hire someone from the outside anyway.

1/25/20 3:17pm

Most likely.

wilsdad

1/25/20 3:26pm

What I heard was the neighbors prevented that from happening and not admin

stickygloves

1/25/20 1:07pm

The school not fighting for permission for the stadium to be loud six times a

vagabonder

1/25/20 1:33pm

The screen does not make noise. The sound system does. I don't buy it.

coolblue

1/25/20 6:05pm

In fairness those numbers are dwindling

TNT

1/25/20 8:17pm

Miami was your first customer?

pappabear246

1/25/20 12:09pm

WarRoom?

1/25/20 12:40pm

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Abe Froman

1/25/20 1:09pm

So you’re saying BYU follows the same pattern as the church?

LifelongAP

1/25/20 12:42pm

Nice try. BYU already had Warroom. It was custom built for BYU by my

chazen

1/25/20 1:12pm

Doing something completely different.

sandYego

1/25/20 1:49pm

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Abe Froman

1/25/20 2:19pm

Impressive. So you invented software that flags Utah anytime byu offers a kid?

viper

1/25/20 1:39pm

this isn't entirely true.

1/25/20 3:00pm

Explain. Don't leave us haning.

Archaea

1/25/20 3:50pm

I can confirm your statement is very true.

COACHdrn

1/25/20 10:25pm

I don’t need to explain.

2/2/20 4:41pm

Not surprising to me at all

Resurgens

1/25/20 4:21pm

CB goes into full "condemn BYU" mode on the report of a biased party. So typical

Jasbo

1/25/20 5:09pm

Amen 🙏🏻

MarkWatney

1/25/20 6:49pm

Its not just this issue. BYU is George Costanza. They are buffoons. Nearly

Backcountry

1/26/20 11:19am

This. It's not this in and of itself, it just reinforces the idea that BYU

Resurgens

1/26/20 1:07pm

I know nothing about your software, but I do know that the BYU admin is, as a

Real Men Wear Blue

1/26/20 1:22pm

Do you scan police blotters from around the country

TunaNoCrust

1/26/20 4:00pm

You realize how petty this sounds? "BYU didn't pick me. They're stupid."

Accipiter

1/26/20 9:53pm

Mr. Sand Yego, would love to hear more testimonials

caibero

1/26/20 10:26pm

Thanks for helping Utah’s program

D.T. Survivor

1/27/20 10:22am

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