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Mar 17, 2020
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Yes, you're right. I was just trying to show some differences between COVID and
the Flu. Over time We've developed successful ways to fight, and treat the Flu. We're nowhere near that as of yet with COVID-19.
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Have done a moderate amount of reading on the virus, here's my opinion: 1.......
BleedCougarBlue2
3/16/20 11:11pm
not to mention that in your point #1, deaths from Covid-19 are not even
RugbyCoug
3/16/20 11:19pm
Wow, that is an excellent point since the flu & Covid-19 generally target the...
BleedCougarBlue2
3/16/20 11:27pm
I loathe the media.
idacoug
3/16/20 11:25pm
You & me both, brother. I'd say more but that would probably turn this political
BleedCougarBlue2
3/16/20 11:28pm
Quick question, what are the death rates for the flu vs Covid-19?
ironman1315
3/16/20 11:31pm
It's more deadly than the flu, but it isn't 1.9%. Most are falling in
CSoul
3/16/20 11:39pm
Okay, so let's go with the .5 number, that's more than 2.5 times as dangerous
ironman1315
3/16/20 11:43pm
There are 2.8M deaths annually in the US. Even your 100k from Covid wouldn't be
RugbyCoug
3/16/20 11:48pm
So what exactly counts as a humanitarian crisis?
StalwartBraveTrue
3/17/20 2:31pm
What about the deaths from poverty and mass unemployment as a result of not
Lance71
3/17/20 3:28pm
From what I read from public health professionals, those factors are considered
dratax
3/17/20 3:46pm
No one is ignoring anything. That’s the same point of view
StalwartBraveTrue
3/17/20 3:59pm
And let’s suppose we don’t take enough precautions and a bunch of people
ironman1315
3/17/20 4:59pm
Some people are worried more about their 401k than keeping the death numbers
blackshirts
3/17/20 5:39pm
Sounds like you don't care about the potential suffering due to economic
IceCreamButt
3/17/20 5:56pm
I believe the two week shutdown to slow the spread was the correct action. I'd
blackshirts
3/17/20 6:23pm
Hallelujah if this is limited to 2 weeks; I see it going for months.
kiyoshige
3/17/20 11:39pm
Yeh, if we did nothing possibly. No one ever said don't do anything.
CSoul
3/17/20 12:01am
However, I did what I could to go confirmed case vs confirmed case.
ironman1315
3/16/20 11:46pm
It's here to stay, it will be endemic
CSoul
3/17/20 12:02am
Yup, let's pull a number out of the air instead of what the experts are using.
CougarThug
3/17/20 9:39am
Those numbers are a bad comparison though. DJROSS shows a better one
Lance71
3/17/20 8:37am
No. I compared doctor visits to doctor visits. It’s still substantially worse.
ironman1315
3/17/20 8:50am
Very well said.
gurt
3/16/20 11:34pm
I think your take on the media is a false narrative.
Blueto
3/16/20 11:37pm
It is too bad Italy was the first European country to get hit hard.
CSoul
3/16/20 11:42pm
France is going to be just as bad a week from now
Josef K
3/17/20 12:12am
I don't think they will be as bad as Italy. We will see shortly though.
CSoul
3/17/20 12:18am
Yesterday there was a post showing that every country is following Italy along
dratax
3/17/20 7:31am
You're welcome to your opinion on the MSM. I'll keep mine. Also, you talk.....
BleedCougarBlue2
3/16/20 11:46pm
It can be both. Extreme measures warranted but media still over hyping it.
JmThms
3/17/20 12:31am
I tend to agree until other evidence is presented.
mulletino
3/16/20 11:38pm
Agree
kiyoshige
3/16/20 11:53pm
the problem in your calculations is that without strong precautions and some lockdowns/quarantines, this illness
ChinaFan
3/16/20 11:59pm
Again, the 3.4% death rate is just bogus. How many times does it have to be
CSoul
3/17/20 12:05am
My reason for frustration is just that we should use proper numbers
CSoul
3/17/20 12:13am
again, where do you get your numbers. Just simple math shows that 3.4% is holding consistent across the world
ChinaFan
3/17/20 12:29am
It's all right because you have been dealing with more important things
CSoul
3/17/20 12:35am
I don't know where you get your numbers, but it's held true in China. And no reason to believe it will change.
ChinaFan
3/17/20 12:26am
From all the recent experts and studies. Not trying to argue, but here are some
CSoul
3/17/20 12:31am
In short, no expert says it's 3.4% because they never calculate
CSoul
3/17/20 12:38am
death rate is in fact based on total deaths divided by total cases. Nothing else. And it's prescriptive based on
ChinaFan
3/17/20 1:17am
Well, you literally disagree with every foremost expert in the
CSoul
3/17/20 1:34am
Isn't the ability of the health system to process more patients the key variable
dratax
3/17/20 7:42am
The main variable is percentage of elderly in a population. Hospital capacity
CSoul
3/17/20 7:48am
You post a lot on this. Curious as to your professional background?
JohnnyB
3/17/20 6:01am
just a lowly guy, living in China, who can read an interpret case rates and casualties. The fact that there are other
ChinaFan
3/17/20 11:20pm
What's made the biggest difference in Shanghai, Beijing, and...
So it goes...
3/17/20 11:33pm
The biggest difference is that Chinese New Year happened. It was a natural barrier to the virus spread, because people
ChinaFan
3/17/20 11:46pm
China took measure that we could never take
cougarblue
3/17/20 12:07am
From what I know, your issue is you focus on deaths
CougarVeteran
3/17/20 12:06am
Flu has been around for a long time, enough time, that peoples bodies have...
So it goes...
3/17/20 12:10am
I think it's more complicated than that. More people seem to actually have
CSoul
3/17/20 12:17am
Your analysis agrees with what I've read about flu and Covid-19 symptoms.
BleedCougarBlue2
3/17/20 12:21am
Yes, you're right. I was just trying to show some differences between COVID and
So it goes...
3/17/20 12:33am
I read today that a husband of a wife who was infected with coronavirus while...
BleedCougarBlue2
3/17/20 12:19am
Here is the link. The man who writes the blog is from my city.
kiyoshige
3/17/20 7:08am
I completely agree with you
Run-DMT
3/17/20 12:13am
Add me to the physician list
kiyoshige
3/17/20 7:20am
#5 Social Media - especially Twitter gets a heaping pile of blame
bluelands
3/17/20 5:12am
Who to believe? MSM is lying. Trump says it’s a hoax. Trump supporters cheer.
JohnnyB
3/17/20 5:26am
RE: Who to believe? MSM is lying. Trump says it’s a hoax. Trump supporters
Misteak
3/17/20 5:36am
Show me objective stats, from multiple, unbiased sources, and logical...........
BleedCougarBlue2
3/17/20 11:11pm
Solid take. Some people don’t know the devastation and trauma of losing a job.
Misteak
3/17/20 5:33am
You did some reading!!?
Bolso
3/17/20 5:49am
Wait... 1%? What happened to 3%?
bluelands
3/17/20 6:24am
RE: Wait... 1%? What happened to 3%?
Bolso
3/17/20 6:58am
I have spent an entire career working with experts in different fields
bluelands
3/17/20 7:17am
RE: I have spent an entire career working with experts in different fields
Bolso
3/17/20 10:01am
Like I said, lose the sarcasm. No one cares what you (supposedly) know until..
BleedCougarBlue2
3/17/20 11:26pm
3.4% is the latest...
blackshirts
3/17/20 7:32am
No it isn't because you don't calculate death rate by deaths / cases tested
CSoul
3/17/20 8:04am
If you want to influence people/opinions, I recommend you lose the sarcasm.
BleedCougarBlue2
3/17/20 11:20pm
I don't claim to be a medical genius, I said I had an "opinion". Apparently I...
BleedCougarBlue2
3/17/20 11:16pm
We need the resident expert to weigh in here
maxpowers
3/17/20 6:56am
Who's that? I never claimed it was me.
BleedCougarBlue2
3/17/20 11:22pm
Even Trump said yesterday that the media had been “fair”
mannheimadler
3/17/20 7:15am
That is news to me. When did he say this? To whom did he say it?
BleedCougarBlue2
3/17/20 11:23pm
I think your #1 point is a major understatement. Too many people are
blackshirts
3/17/20 7:30am
Stuff like this causing people to run to urgent care demanding to be tested
bluelands
3/17/20 8:41am
Other states will follow NY lead with 90-day mortgage relief
mindzeYe
3/20/20 1:57am
I thought this Ted talk had some excellent information
dratax
3/17/20 8:20am
Mexico on has 78 cases. We need to do what they are doing!
StalwartBraveTrue
3/17/20 8:55am
Some of the new information coming out indicates that lung damage is a
airwolf
3/17/20 9:03am
uneducated post. sheesh! you have no idea ...
mindzeYe
3/17/20 9:14am
So educate me.
BleedCougarBlue2
3/17/20 11:30pm
This is a dangerous, uneducated post. As noted elsewhere, the idea of isolating the vulnerable has not worked in the UK.
WaybackCougar
3/17/20 9:55am
Proof? Where are your multiple, objective sources? Hyperlinks?
BleedCougarBlue2
3/17/20 11:32pm
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