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Mar 17, 2020
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CougarThug
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Yup, let's pull a number out of the air instead of what the experts are using.
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Have done a moderate amount of reading on the virus, here's my opinion: 1.......
BleedCougarBlue2
3/16/20 11:11pm
not to mention that in your point #1, deaths from Covid-19 are not even
RugbyCoug
3/16/20 11:19pm
Wow, that is an excellent point since the flu & Covid-19 generally target the...
BleedCougarBlue2
3/16/20 11:27pm
I loathe the media.
idacoug
3/16/20 11:25pm
You & me both, brother. I'd say more but that would probably turn this political
BleedCougarBlue2
3/16/20 11:28pm
Quick question, what are the death rates for the flu vs Covid-19?
ironman1315
3/16/20 11:31pm
It's more deadly than the flu, but it isn't 1.9%. Most are falling in
CSoul
3/16/20 11:39pm
Okay, so let's go with the .5 number, that's more than 2.5 times as dangerous
ironman1315
3/16/20 11:43pm
There are 2.8M deaths annually in the US. Even your 100k from Covid wouldn't be
RugbyCoug
3/16/20 11:48pm
So what exactly counts as a humanitarian crisis?
StalwartBraveTrue
3/17/20 2:31pm
What about the deaths from poverty and mass unemployment as a result of not
Lance71
3/17/20 3:28pm
From what I read from public health professionals, those factors are considered
dratax
3/17/20 3:46pm
No one is ignoring anything. That’s the same point of view
StalwartBraveTrue
3/17/20 3:59pm
And let’s suppose we don’t take enough precautions and a bunch of people
ironman1315
3/17/20 4:59pm
Some people are worried more about their 401k than keeping the death numbers
blackshirts
3/17/20 5:39pm
Sounds like you don't care about the potential suffering due to economic
IceCreamButt
3/17/20 5:56pm
I believe the two week shutdown to slow the spread was the correct action. I'd
blackshirts
3/17/20 6:23pm
Hallelujah if this is limited to 2 weeks; I see it going for months.
kiyoshige
3/17/20 11:39pm
Yeh, if we did nothing possibly. No one ever said don't do anything.
CSoul
3/17/20 12:01am
However, I did what I could to go confirmed case vs confirmed case.
ironman1315
3/16/20 11:46pm
It's here to stay, it will be endemic
CSoul
3/17/20 12:02am
Yup, let's pull a number out of the air instead of what the experts are using.
CougarThug
3/17/20 9:39am
Those numbers are a bad comparison though. DJROSS shows a better one
Lance71
3/17/20 8:37am
No. I compared doctor visits to doctor visits. It’s still substantially worse.
ironman1315
3/17/20 8:50am
Very well said.
gurt
3/16/20 11:34pm
I think your take on the media is a false narrative.
Blueto
3/16/20 11:37pm
It is too bad Italy was the first European country to get hit hard.
CSoul
3/16/20 11:42pm
France is going to be just as bad a week from now
Josef K
3/17/20 12:12am
I don't think they will be as bad as Italy. We will see shortly though.
CSoul
3/17/20 12:18am
Yesterday there was a post showing that every country is following Italy along
dratax
3/17/20 7:31am
You're welcome to your opinion on the MSM. I'll keep mine. Also, you talk.....
BleedCougarBlue2
3/16/20 11:46pm
It can be both. Extreme measures warranted but media still over hyping it.
JmThms
3/17/20 12:31am
I tend to agree until other evidence is presented.
mulletino
3/16/20 11:38pm
Agree
kiyoshige
3/16/20 11:53pm
the problem in your calculations is that without strong precautions and some lockdowns/quarantines, this illness
ChinaFan
3/16/20 11:59pm
Again, the 3.4% death rate is just bogus. How many times does it have to be
CSoul
3/17/20 12:05am
My reason for frustration is just that we should use proper numbers
CSoul
3/17/20 12:13am
again, where do you get your numbers. Just simple math shows that 3.4% is holding consistent across the world
ChinaFan
3/17/20 12:29am
It's all right because you have been dealing with more important things
CSoul
3/17/20 12:35am
I don't know where you get your numbers, but it's held true in China. And no reason to believe it will change.
ChinaFan
3/17/20 12:26am
From all the recent experts and studies. Not trying to argue, but here are some
CSoul
3/17/20 12:31am
In short, no expert says it's 3.4% because they never calculate
CSoul
3/17/20 12:38am
death rate is in fact based on total deaths divided by total cases. Nothing else. And it's prescriptive based on
ChinaFan
3/17/20 1:17am
Well, you literally disagree with every foremost expert in the
CSoul
3/17/20 1:34am
Isn't the ability of the health system to process more patients the key variable
dratax
3/17/20 7:42am
The main variable is percentage of elderly in a population. Hospital capacity
CSoul
3/17/20 7:48am
You post a lot on this. Curious as to your professional background?
JohnnyB
3/17/20 6:01am
just a lowly guy, living in China, who can read an interpret case rates and casualties. The fact that there are other
ChinaFan
3/17/20 11:20pm
What's made the biggest difference in Shanghai, Beijing, and...
So it goes...
3/17/20 11:33pm
The biggest difference is that Chinese New Year happened. It was a natural barrier to the virus spread, because people
ChinaFan
3/17/20 11:46pm
China took measure that we could never take
cougarblue
3/17/20 12:07am
From what I know, your issue is you focus on deaths
CougarVeteran
3/17/20 12:06am
Flu has been around for a long time, enough time, that peoples bodies have...
So it goes...
3/17/20 12:10am
I think it's more complicated than that. More people seem to actually have
CSoul
3/17/20 12:17am
Your analysis agrees with what I've read about flu and Covid-19 symptoms.
BleedCougarBlue2
3/17/20 12:21am
Yes, you're right. I was just trying to show some differences between COVID and
So it goes...
3/17/20 12:33am
I read today that a husband of a wife who was infected with coronavirus while...
BleedCougarBlue2
3/17/20 12:19am
Here is the link. The man who writes the blog is from my city.
kiyoshige
3/17/20 7:08am
I completely agree with you
Run-DMT
3/17/20 12:13am
Add me to the physician list
kiyoshige
3/17/20 7:20am
#5 Social Media - especially Twitter gets a heaping pile of blame
bluelands
3/17/20 5:12am
Who to believe? MSM is lying. Trump says it’s a hoax. Trump supporters cheer.
JohnnyB
3/17/20 5:26am
RE: Who to believe? MSM is lying. Trump says it’s a hoax. Trump supporters
Misteak
3/17/20 5:36am
Show me objective stats, from multiple, unbiased sources, and logical...........
BleedCougarBlue2
3/17/20 11:11pm
Solid take. Some people don’t know the devastation and trauma of losing a job.
Misteak
3/17/20 5:33am
You did some reading!!?
Bolso
3/17/20 5:49am
Wait... 1%? What happened to 3%?
bluelands
3/17/20 6:24am
RE: Wait... 1%? What happened to 3%?
Bolso
3/17/20 6:58am
I have spent an entire career working with experts in different fields
bluelands
3/17/20 7:17am
RE: I have spent an entire career working with experts in different fields
Bolso
3/17/20 10:01am
Like I said, lose the sarcasm. No one cares what you (supposedly) know until..
BleedCougarBlue2
3/17/20 11:26pm
3.4% is the latest...
blackshirts
3/17/20 7:32am
No it isn't because you don't calculate death rate by deaths / cases tested
CSoul
3/17/20 8:04am
If you want to influence people/opinions, I recommend you lose the sarcasm.
BleedCougarBlue2
3/17/20 11:20pm
I don't claim to be a medical genius, I said I had an "opinion". Apparently I...
BleedCougarBlue2
3/17/20 11:16pm
We need the resident expert to weigh in here
maxpowers
3/17/20 6:56am
Who's that? I never claimed it was me.
BleedCougarBlue2
3/17/20 11:22pm
Even Trump said yesterday that the media had been “fair”
mannheimadler
3/17/20 7:15am
That is news to me. When did he say this? To whom did he say it?
BleedCougarBlue2
3/17/20 11:23pm
I think your #1 point is a major understatement. Too many people are
blackshirts
3/17/20 7:30am
Stuff like this causing people to run to urgent care demanding to be tested
bluelands
3/17/20 8:41am
Other states will follow NY lead with 90-day mortgage relief
mindzeYe
3/20/20 1:57am
I thought this Ted talk had some excellent information
dratax
3/17/20 8:20am
Mexico on has 78 cases. We need to do what they are doing!
StalwartBraveTrue
3/17/20 8:55am
Some of the new information coming out indicates that lung damage is a
airwolf
3/17/20 9:03am
uneducated post. sheesh! you have no idea ...
mindzeYe
3/17/20 9:14am
So educate me.
BleedCougarBlue2
3/17/20 11:30pm
This is a dangerous, uneducated post. As noted elsewhere, the idea of isolating the vulnerable has not worked in the UK.
WaybackCougar
3/17/20 9:55am
Proof? Where are your multiple, objective sources? Hyperlinks?
BleedCougarBlue2
3/17/20 11:32pm
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