ZW's candor is both refreshing and a little terrifying.

Oct 29, 2020
5:38:54pm

Ham All-American

Listening to him talk to Rome about the recruiting process is a little cringey. BYU was in a bad spot after the 2017 season. Ty Detmer was a huge mistake.

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ZW's candor is both refreshing and a little terrifying.

Ham

10/29/20 5:38pm

I think it wasn’t fair to Ty to give him a coordinator spot.

All-American

10/29/20 5:49pm

Agreed. Ty was in over his head as OC.

Forzaitalia

10/29/20 6:01pm

I'll say it again. I love BYU players but not a single starter on O in 2017

rcbyufan

10/29/20 6:48pm

While true I think there is little reason to expect Ty would’ve been able to

puntersarepeople

10/30/20 12:01am

I'd have to look back but aren't half of these starters from back when Ty was

rcbyufan

10/30/20 8:30am

He didn’t impress at the WR and QB positions

puntersarepeople

10/30/20 8:33am

I agree with this, but he said in several interviews he wasn't coming unless it

Lance71

10/29/20 6:32pm

He also required most of the assistant coaches’ pool of funds. That’s why the

BYUHgrad

10/29/20 7:56pm

I don’t know if it was as much his ego as he enjoyed what he was doing

cougarfann888

10/30/20 12:18am

I’m not sure he would make a great quarterback coach

D.T. Survivor

10/29/20 7:55pm

Totally, 100% disagree. It takes only 2 things to be a great coach/teacher:

BleedCougarBlue2

10/29/20 8:14pm

The QB's under Ty were awful at going through their reads. Ty was such a natural

Lance71

10/29/20 8:23pm

Disagree. And as further evidence of his teaching skills, it is well known that

BleedCougarBlue2

10/29/20 8:34pm

Again, that’s not the same as getting a college QB to succeed. Lots of NFL

D.T. Survivor

10/29/20 8:39pm

I know this hurts for people to hear but Ty was not a good OC and his QBs didn’t

Coug Man in Florida

10/29/20 11:03pm

I'd like to see you say that to his face without knowing the backstory...

LEDSFW

10/29/20 6:03pm

There's another side to that view. 1. KS went out and recruited ZW hard despite

Forzaitalia

10/29/20 6:46pm

Yeah it is true that Kalani went hard after Wilson. But then it's also ....

LEDSFW

10/29/20 10:56pm

Lots of emotional arguments in there and stuff I can only speculate about. No-

Forzaitalia

10/30/20 12:25am

I have two words for you, Zadock Dinklemann.

CougarTailDevourer

10/29/20 7:17pm

Two other words...

LEDSFW

10/29/20 10:57pm

Sure does. Dinklemann is the reason why Ty didn't have a schollie to offer

CougarTailDevourer

10/29/20 11:27pm

Ty was an amazing QB, and has a great mind for football, but...

Ham

10/29/20 8:37pm

So you were there. It was Ty's choice. You are unwilling to accept the....

LEDSFW

10/29/20 11:05pm

You're probably right.

Ham

10/30/20 10:02am

RE: I'd like to see you say that to his face without knowing the backstory...

Shawn paul

10/29/20 9:12pm

I look forward to Ty proving you right if he can find someone to hire him

MyTwoCents

10/29/20 9:25pm

Ty had two NFLers in his backfield his first year and somehow that offense was

Ozymandias

10/30/20 7:34am

I was neighbors with a qb recruit during this- BYU was actively recruiting 2

1984coug

10/30/20 8:41am

Hindsight is 20-20. He even said he didn’t want BYU. Not sure that reflects badly on anyone. IIRC he wasn’t an option

Hank Rearden

10/29/20 6:04pm

It's great that we got Zach, but I'd wager that part of what motivates him to be

BYUFootballisBack

10/29/20 6:21pm

Coming to BYU also opened his eyes to the true ugliness at Utah. Zach's brother

Lance71

10/29/20 6:36pm

I don’t think “they don’t want any part of Utah” is true.

SlantRoute

10/29/20 8:12pm

It’s absolutely true. The way the parents have been treated, they’re stone.

cougfan03

10/29/20 11:01pm

BYU fans didn't treat then very well last year either. Especially his mom.

Schultz is back

10/30/20 7:11am

No doubt that is a big part of his motivation. What high-caliber athlete would

BleedCougarBlue2

10/29/20 8:20pm

Bashing Detmer is poor form.

ParentingNotForSissy

10/29/20 9:50pm

I think defending him is just as poor.

TheWoodman

10/29/20 10:20pm

Yes. Failing to face reality helps nothing. Time focus on Ty the great player.

Forzaitalia

10/29/20 10:27pm

Why would you bash detmer and in the same message say why are we talking

ChiTownCougarV2

10/30/20 12:00am

It should be an automatic lifetime ban

ChiTownCougarV2

10/29/20 11:57pm

BYU never should have hired him. It was a terrible, short-sighted decision.

Ham

10/30/20 10:04am

What happened happened but no slander shall be directed towards Ty. He’s my

ChiTownCougarV2

10/29/20 11:55pm

I don't have the luxury of recalling memories of Ty as a player.

Ham

10/30/20 10:11am

Agreed but he’s BYU’s only Heisman winner and a hero whether you remember him

ChiTownCougarV2

10/30/20 11:39am

I keep getting a vibe from Zach that he is not a BYU guy. I realize that he was

CT98

10/30/20 11:57am

Last I checked, yes. Although I did see an awful photoshop job of him in red.

All-American

10/30/20 12:00pm

Come on...you know what I mean. Surely there are other CBers who get this vibe

CT98

10/30/20 12:10pm

When we had family at the U playing football and other sports we cheered for uta

1984coug

10/30/20 3:07pm

Thank you for your comment. This is what I think will happen with the Wilsons

CT98

10/30/20 3:15pm

I hope not

puntersarepeople

10/30/20 3:25pm

RE: Thank you for your comment. This is what I think will happen with the

Shawn paul

10/30/20 6:43pm

His little brother, who was a bigger recruit than him, committed to BYU. And he

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