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Oct 29, 2020
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Forzaitalia
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Yes. Failing to face reality helps nothing. Time focus on Ty the great player.
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ZW's candor is both refreshing and a little terrifying.
Ham
10/29/20 5:38pm
I think it wasn’t fair to Ty to give him a coordinator spot.
All-American
10/29/20 5:49pm
Agreed. Ty was in over his head as OC.
Forzaitalia
10/29/20 6:01pm
I'll say it again. I love BYU players but not a single starter on O in 2017
rcbyufan
10/29/20 6:48pm
While true I think there is little reason to expect Ty would’ve been able to
puntersarepeople
10/30/20 12:01am
I'd have to look back but aren't half of these starters from back when Ty was
rcbyufan
10/30/20 8:30am
He didn’t impress at the WR and QB positions
puntersarepeople
10/30/20 8:33am
I agree with this, but he said in several interviews he wasn't coming unless it
Lance71
10/29/20 6:32pm
He also required most of the assistant coaches’ pool of funds. That’s why the
BYUHgrad
10/29/20 7:56pm
I don’t know if it was as much his ego as he enjoyed what he was doing
cougarfann888
10/30/20 12:18am
I’m not sure he would make a great quarterback coach
D.T. Survivor
10/29/20 7:55pm
Totally, 100% disagree. It takes only 2 things to be a great coach/teacher:
BleedCougarBlue2
10/29/20 8:14pm
The QB's under Ty were awful at going through their reads. Ty was such a natural
Lance71
10/29/20 8:23pm
Disagree. And as further evidence of his teaching skills, it is well known that
BleedCougarBlue2
10/29/20 8:34pm
Again, that’s not the same as getting a college QB to succeed. Lots of NFL
D.T. Survivor
10/29/20 8:39pm
I know this hurts for people to hear but Ty was not a good OC and his QBs didn’t
Coug Man in Florida
10/29/20 11:03pm
I'd like to see you say that to his face without knowing the backstory...
LEDSFW
10/29/20 6:03pm
There's another side to that view. 1. KS went out and recruited ZW hard despite
Forzaitalia
10/29/20 6:46pm
Yeah it is true that Kalani went hard after Wilson. But then it's also ....
LEDSFW
10/29/20 10:56pm
Lots of emotional arguments in there and stuff I can only speculate about. No-
Forzaitalia
10/30/20 12:25am
I have two words for you, Zadock Dinklemann.
CougarTailDevourer
10/29/20 7:17pm
Two other words...
LEDSFW
10/29/20 10:57pm
Sure does. Dinklemann is the reason why Ty didn't have a schollie to offer
CougarTailDevourer
10/29/20 11:27pm
Ty was an amazing QB, and has a great mind for football, but...
Ham
10/29/20 8:37pm
So you were there. It was Ty's choice. You are unwilling to accept the....
LEDSFW
10/29/20 11:05pm
You're probably right.
Ham
10/30/20 10:02am
RE: I'd like to see you say that to his face without knowing the backstory...
Shawn paul
10/29/20 9:12pm
I look forward to Ty proving you right if he can find someone to hire him
MyTwoCents
10/29/20 9:25pm
Ty had two NFLers in his backfield his first year and somehow that offense was
Ozymandias
10/30/20 7:34am
I was neighbors with a qb recruit during this- BYU was actively recruiting 2
1984coug
10/30/20 8:41am
Hindsight is 20-20. He even said he didn’t want BYU. Not sure that reflects badly on anyone. IIRC he wasn’t an option
Hank Rearden
10/29/20 6:04pm
It's great that we got Zach, but I'd wager that part of what motivates him to be
BYUFootballisBack
10/29/20 6:21pm
Coming to BYU also opened his eyes to the true ugliness at Utah. Zach's brother
Lance71
10/29/20 6:36pm
I don’t think “they don’t want any part of Utah” is true.
SlantRoute
10/29/20 8:12pm
It’s absolutely true. The way the parents have been treated, they’re stone.
cougfan03
10/29/20 11:01pm
BYU fans didn't treat then very well last year either. Especially his mom.
Schultz is back
10/30/20 7:11am
No doubt that is a big part of his motivation. What high-caliber athlete would
BleedCougarBlue2
10/29/20 8:20pm
Bashing Detmer is poor form.
ParentingNotForSissy
10/29/20 9:50pm
I think defending him is just as poor.
TheWoodman
10/29/20 10:20pm
Yes. Failing to face reality helps nothing. Time focus on Ty the great player.
Forzaitalia
10/29/20 10:27pm
Why would you bash detmer and in the same message say why are we talking
ChiTownCougarV2
10/30/20 12:00am
It should be an automatic lifetime ban
ChiTownCougarV2
10/29/20 11:57pm
BYU never should have hired him. It was a terrible, short-sighted decision.
Ham
10/30/20 10:04am
What happened happened but no slander shall be directed towards Ty. He’s my
ChiTownCougarV2
10/29/20 11:55pm
I don't have the luxury of recalling memories of Ty as a player.
Ham
10/30/20 10:11am
Agreed but he’s BYU’s only Heisman winner and a hero whether you remember him
ChiTownCougarV2
10/30/20 11:39am
I keep getting a vibe from Zach that he is not a BYU guy. I realize that he was
CT98
10/30/20 11:57am
Last I checked, yes. Although I did see an awful photoshop job of him in red.
All-American
10/30/20 12:00pm
Come on...you know what I mean. Surely there are other CBers who get this vibe
CT98
10/30/20 12:10pm
When we had family at the U playing football and other sports we cheered for uta
1984coug
10/30/20 3:07pm
Thank you for your comment. This is what I think will happen with the Wilsons
CT98
10/30/20 3:15pm
I hope not
puntersarepeople
10/30/20 3:25pm
RE: Thank you for your comment. This is what I think will happen with the
Shawn paul
10/30/20 6:43pm
His little brother, who was a bigger recruit than him, committed to BYU. And he
Lance71
10/30/20 12:23pm
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