sure, those with a "perfect body" have genetic advantages. but i think diet and

Jan 20, 2021
11:44:51am

johnnycarson Intervention Needed

exercise can get a lot of people to a really good place.

bad genetics make it more difficult.

something that i think is often forgotten is hormones. they influence a lot here. thats in the arena of genetics too.

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My good friends wife is a exercise instagrammer. She literally posts her self

the_byu_flash

1/20/21 11:15am

imagine what she would look like if she didn't work out

Gibbcoug

1/20/21 11:16am

This is probably true

the_byu_flash

1/20/21 11:17am

TNT has a question

Bar7h

1/20/21 11:16am

You can't prove that

TNT

1/20/21 11:17am

In a good way or bad way?

Iman23

1/20/21 11:16am

Sounds like “exactly the same” is not a good thing.

Big Daddy D

1/20/21 11:17am

If I was ripped and still looked ripped for three years I am not sure what the problem is

P-Boy Squad

1/20/21 11:18am

Still a hog? Or still fit?

mulletino

1/20/21 11:17am

This is the key distinction

ldssdl

1/20/21 11:19am

the gym is full heavy people. who don't get skinnier.

johnnycarson

1/20/21 11:18am

Better to be a heavy person who exercises than one who doesn't

Tricky

1/20/21 11:19am

Better to be a heavy person who exercises than a thin one who is sedentary.

DanSmith...BYU

1/20/21 11:27am

Why the down-votes? Is this a matter of opinion or scientific fact?

Tricky

1/20/21 2:51pm

Science is a bad word around here, but yes, it is a fact.

StalwartBraveTrue

1/20/21 3:12pm

As a big guy I can testify: it is 80% diet.

Ycrazy

1/20/21 11:23am

*98% diet.

johnnycarson

1/20/21 11:25am

*80% genetics, 10% diet, 10% exercise.

Zach Morris

1/20/21 11:31am

sure, those with a "perfect body" have genetic advantages. but i think diet and

johnnycarson

1/20/21 11:44am

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CougarTailDevourer

1/20/21 11:48am

I don’t disagree with this or any of the philosophies of weight loss. I 100% believe that one can manage their weight

Zach Morris

1/20/21 12:06pm

I guess if your argument so folks have broad shoulders and others don't than yes

ordinary tri guy

1/20/21 12:16pm

I don’t believe that everyone is created equally from a body/physique perspective. I don’t believe it’s just a blank

Zach Morris

1/20/21 12:22pm

I agree with you here but would put the 80% number closer to 50%

Odysseus

1/20/21 12:25pm

That seems reasonable. I think a primary part of my point however is just how common of thinking it is that ones look

Zach Morris

1/20/21 12:34pm

Yeah, I can eat like a horse and not gain much fat or muscle (pros & cons)

Odysseus

1/20/21 12:40pm

So very true. Even today people still conflate fitness with appearance.

StalwartBraveTrue

1/20/21 12:54pm

True. A lot of that is OUTLIERS though. A team of almost any college sport

RUNBYU1

1/20/21 3:11pm

Look at NBA players. Some are thick. Some look like Andre Kirilenko.

johnnycarson

1/20/21 3:46pm

Look at the NFL, MLB and the human population in general. Some people tend to be more lean, more muscular... some tend

Zach Morris

1/20/21 4:15pm

True, but again, the VS models and Taysom Hill's are the OUTLIERS

RUNBYU1

1/21/21 1:13pm

Yes, but MOST look fairly similar outside of height differentials

RUNBYU1

1/21/21 12:35pm

One might suggest that genetics led to those team members being successful

StalwartBraveTrue

1/20/21 3:58pm

Perhaps, but in high school ANYONE makes the team on some of these sports. No

RUNBYU1

1/21/21 12:37pm

I work in the fitness industry and I'd put it lower than 50%

RUNBYU1

1/20/21 2:46pm

Of course you do. So would I if my life depended on it. 😉

StalwartBraveTrue

1/20/21 6:07pm

Touche. I don't get paid whether people are fit or not though. Has no bearing.

RUNBYU1

1/21/21 12:34pm

Then you know the statistics.

Future_Tacos

1/20/21 2:57pm

Truth

Gerald-DeGroot

1/20/21 12:05pm

If that's the case, our genes have changed *drastically* over the last century

Mises

1/20/21 1:14pm

Lifestyle and environment impacts gene expression.

StalwartBraveTrue

1/20/21 1:31pm

So then, why not say lifestyle and environment impact fatness.

D.T. Survivor

1/20/21 2:54pm

Because that part is obvious. It’s not one or the other. But one AND the other.

StalwartBraveTrue

1/20/21 3:59pm

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ditch

1/20/21 9:01pm

Well, it’s 100% calories in/out. It’s just a lot easier to consume 500 cal than

Jay Rick

1/20/21 11:48am

Yeah, to burn off that cookie you'd have to run (leisurely pace) for about 2

CougarTailDevourer

1/20/21 11:52am

Problem is, I really like the cookie. So I went MTBing for 2 hours. Blerg.

Jay Rick

1/20/21 11:58am

MTB is amazing for calorie burn. also tons more fun than running IMO, so...

COUGND

1/20/21 12:09pm

It’s a great way to exercise. And yes, running is the worst. Only prob for me

Jay Rick

1/20/21 12:29pm

Also, at least in Utah it gets dark at like 5:30 in the winter. Which adds to it

CougarTailDevourer

1/20/21 12:41pm

Better than getting dark at 5pm in Phoenix during the nice weather time of the

RUNBYU1

1/20/21 1:28pm

...and better than Denver where it gets dark 30 minutes earlier than Utah. Bleh.

RUNBYU1

1/20/21 1:28pm

Dudes - I live in NW Oregon. It’s dark at 4:30, plus cloudy, might as well be

Jay Rick

1/20/21 1:54pm

I went to the Gym yesterday and then stopped and got Panda Express on the way

CougarTailDevourer

1/20/21 12:39pm

2 1/2 hours for 800 calories? That is either high or strava is full of crap.

Colorado

1/20/21 2:23pm

Depends on your weight. I get 800 for the same exercise my wife gets 325.

Ycrazy

1/20/21 2:26pm

I go with this Harvard study (because I trust a Harvard study more than a

Jay Rick

1/20/21 2:27pm

Leisurely pace 10min/mile says 888 calories/hour for 185 lbs. I'm 210 so app

Colorado

1/20/21 2:34pm

I used the 12 minute mile in my example, which is why I said leisurely running

CougarTailDevourer

1/20/21 2:57pm

Agree with all this. Calories out always has to be seen as an estimate. We can

Jay Rick

1/20/21 3:02pm

Oh I didn’t say 2.5 hrs. That was CTD. I just generally go with that Harvard

Jay Rick

1/20/21 3:00pm

I can burn 500 calories in 30 mins on Peloton.

Gerald-DeGroot

1/21/21 1:15pm

Absolutely! People who think they never eat anything and are fat have

deljdc

1/20/21 2:03pm

i'm very overweight, but being active has kept my A1C's under 6 for 3 years

v1k0u6

1/20/21 11:29am

Fit and big is healthier than not fit and thin.

StalwartBraveTrue

1/20/21 1:33pm

More than that

Tricky

1/20/21 11:30am

Prove it

Coop

1/20/21 11:20am

It's all about food. I finally figured that out after 0 results after 10 years

Lakerone

1/20/21 11:25am

I'm going to refute your line of thinking here. In 10 years of working out there

DanSmith...BYU

1/20/21 6:40pm

If she's anything like the majority of instagrammers...

LosAlcoug

1/20/21 11:25am

Which families do this. I'm connected with a couple of pretty popular ones that

ordinary tri guy

1/20/21 11:47am

I would've had to workout really hard to look as good today as I did 3 years ago.

RdF3

1/20/21 11:35am

post her profile so TNT can verify it's "only" an exercise account.

ordinary tri guy

1/20/21 11:38am

Pics?

Gerald-DeGroot

1/20/21 11:41am

Is she still eating the same as she was 3 years ago? If so, there's the problem.

CougarTailDevourer

1/20/21 11:42am

RE: Is she still eating the same as she was 3 years ago? If so, there's the

the_byu_flash

1/20/21 11:49am

The shakes don't do jack if you aren't at a calorie deficit as a result of using

CougarTailDevourer

1/20/21 11:56am

Share the link to her account and I'll be able to figure out which she's doing.

RdF3

1/20/21 12:03pm

Why are you watching your good friend's wife work out every single day?

Phreddy

1/20/21 11:52am

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