Agree with all this. Calories out always has to be seen as an estimate. We can

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Jan 20, 2021
3:02:10pm

Jay Rick Intervention Needed

Agree with all this. Calories out always has to be seen as an estimate. We can

get pretty decent estimates, but always should be taken with a grain of salt.

And I really don’t know how accurate things like Apple Watch are. All they’re going on is your heart rate, which is probably good. But it can’t be perfectly accurate.

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Jay Rick

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My good friends wife is a exercise instagrammer. She literally posts her self

the_byu_flash

1/20/21 11:15am

imagine what she would look like if she didn't work out

Gibbcoug

1/20/21 11:16am

This is probably true

the_byu_flash

1/20/21 11:17am

TNT has a question

Bar7h

1/20/21 11:16am

You can't prove that

TNT

1/20/21 11:17am

In a good way or bad way?

Iman23

1/20/21 11:16am

Sounds like “exactly the same” is not a good thing.

Big Daddy D

1/20/21 11:17am

If I was ripped and still looked ripped for three years I am not sure what the problem is

P-Boy Squad

1/20/21 11:18am

Still a hog? Or still fit?

mulletino

1/20/21 11:17am

This is the key distinction

ldssdl

1/20/21 11:19am

the gym is full heavy people. who don't get skinnier.

1/20/21 11:18am

Better to be a heavy person who exercises than one who doesn't

Tricky

1/20/21 11:19am

Better to be a heavy person who exercises than a thin one who is sedentary.

1/20/21 11:27am

Why the down-votes? Is this a matter of opinion or scientific fact?

Tricky

1/20/21 2:51pm

Science is a bad word around here, but yes, it is a fact.

StalwartBraveTrue

1/20/21 3:12pm

As a big guy I can testify: it is 80% diet.

Ycrazy

1/20/21 11:23am

*98% diet.

1/20/21 11:25am

*80% genetics, 10% diet, 10% exercise.

Zach Morris

1/20/21 11:31am

sure, those with a "perfect body" have genetic advantages. but i think diet and

1/20/21 11:44am

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CougarTailDevourer

1/20/21 11:48am

I don’t disagree with this or any of the philosophies of weight loss. I 100% believe that one can manage their weight

Zach Morris

1/20/21 12:06pm

I guess if your argument so folks have broad shoulders and others don't than yes

ordinary tri guy

1/20/21 12:16pm

I don’t believe that everyone is created equally from a body/physique perspective. I don’t believe it’s just a blank

Zach Morris

1/20/21 12:22pm

I agree with you here but would put the 80% number closer to 50%

Odysseus

1/20/21 12:25pm

That seems reasonable. I think a primary part of my point however is just how common of thinking it is that ones look

Zach Morris

1/20/21 12:34pm

Yeah, I can eat like a horse and not gain much fat or muscle (pros & cons)

Odysseus

1/20/21 12:40pm

So very true. Even today people still conflate fitness with appearance.

StalwartBraveTrue

1/20/21 12:54pm

True. A lot of that is OUTLIERS though. A team of almost any college sport

RUNBYU1

1/20/21 3:11pm

Look at NBA players. Some are thick. Some look like Andre Kirilenko.

1/20/21 3:46pm

Look at the NFL, MLB and the human population in general. Some people tend to be more lean, more muscular... some tend

Zach Morris

1/20/21 4:15pm

True, but again, the VS models and Taysom Hill's are the OUTLIERS

RUNBYU1

1/21/21 1:13pm

Yes, but MOST look fairly similar outside of height differentials

RUNBYU1

1/21/21 12:35pm

One might suggest that genetics led to those team members being successful

StalwartBraveTrue

1/20/21 3:58pm

Perhaps, but in high school ANYONE makes the team on some of these sports. No

RUNBYU1

1/21/21 12:37pm

I work in the fitness industry and I'd put it lower than 50%

RUNBYU1

1/20/21 2:46pm

Of course you do. So would I if my life depended on it. 😉

StalwartBraveTrue

1/20/21 6:07pm

Touche. I don't get paid whether people are fit or not though. Has no bearing.

RUNBYU1

1/21/21 12:34pm

Then you know the statistics.

Future_Tacos

1/20/21 2:57pm

Truth

1/20/21 12:05pm

If that's the case, our genes have changed *drastically* over the last century

Mises

1/20/21 1:14pm

Lifestyle and environment impacts gene expression.

StalwartBraveTrue

1/20/21 1:31pm

So then, why not say lifestyle and environment impact fatness.

1/20/21 2:54pm

Because that part is obvious. It’s not one or the other. But one AND the other.

StalwartBraveTrue

1/20/21 3:59pm

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ditch

1/20/21 9:01pm

Well, it’s 100% calories in/out. It’s just a lot easier to consume 500 cal than

Jay Rick

1/20/21 11:48am

Yeah, to burn off that cookie you'd have to run (leisurely pace) for about 2

CougarTailDevourer

1/20/21 11:52am

Problem is, I really like the cookie. So I went MTBing for 2 hours. Blerg.

Jay Rick

1/20/21 11:58am

MTB is amazing for calorie burn. also tons more fun than running IMO, so...

COUGND

1/20/21 12:09pm

It’s a great way to exercise. And yes, running is the worst. Only prob for me

Jay Rick

1/20/21 12:29pm

Also, at least in Utah it gets dark at like 5:30 in the winter. Which adds to it

CougarTailDevourer

1/20/21 12:41pm

Better than getting dark at 5pm in Phoenix during the nice weather time of the

RUNBYU1

1/20/21 1:28pm

...and better than Denver where it gets dark 30 minutes earlier than Utah. Bleh.

RUNBYU1

1/20/21 1:28pm

Dudes - I live in NW Oregon. It’s dark at 4:30, plus cloudy, might as well be

Jay Rick

1/20/21 1:54pm

I went to the Gym yesterday and then stopped and got Panda Express on the way

CougarTailDevourer

1/20/21 12:39pm

2 1/2 hours for 800 calories? That is either high or strava is full of crap.

Colorado

1/20/21 2:23pm

Depends on your weight. I get 800 for the same exercise my wife gets 325.

Ycrazy

1/20/21 2:26pm

I go with this Harvard study (because I trust a Harvard study more than a

Jay Rick

1/20/21 2:27pm

Leisurely pace 10min/mile says 888 calories/hour for 185 lbs. I'm 210 so app

Colorado

1/20/21 2:34pm

I used the 12 minute mile in my example, which is why I said leisurely running

CougarTailDevourer

1/20/21 2:57pm

Agree with all this. Calories out always has to be seen as an estimate. We can

Jay Rick

1/20/21 3:02pm

Oh I didn’t say 2.5 hrs. That was CTD. I just generally go with that Harvard

Jay Rick

1/20/21 3:00pm

I can burn 500 calories in 30 mins on Peloton.

1/21/21 1:15pm

Absolutely! People who think they never eat anything and are fat have

deljdc

1/20/21 2:03pm

i'm very overweight, but being active has kept my A1C's under 6 for 3 years

v1k0u6

1/20/21 11:29am

Fit and big is healthier than not fit and thin.

StalwartBraveTrue

1/20/21 1:33pm

More than that

Tricky

1/20/21 11:30am

Prove it

Coop

1/20/21 11:20am

It's all about food. I finally figured that out after 0 results after 10 years

Lakerone

1/20/21 11:25am

I'm going to refute your line of thinking here. In 10 years of working out there

1/20/21 6:40pm

If she's anything like the majority of instagrammers...

LosAlcoug

1/20/21 11:25am

Which families do this. I'm connected with a couple of pretty popular ones that

ordinary tri guy

1/20/21 11:47am

I would've had to workout really hard to look as good today as I did 3 years ago.

RdF3

1/20/21 11:35am

post her profile so TNT can verify it's "only" an exercise account.

ordinary tri guy

1/20/21 11:38am

Pics?

1/20/21 11:41am

Is she still eating the same as she was 3 years ago? If so, there's the problem.

CougarTailDevourer

1/20/21 11:42am

RE: Is she still eating the same as she was 3 years ago? If so, there's the

the_byu_flash

1/20/21 11:49am

The shakes don't do jack if you aren't at a calorie deficit as a result of using

CougarTailDevourer

1/20/21 11:56am

Share the link to her account and I'll be able to figure out which she's doing.

RdF3

1/20/21 12:03pm

Why are you watching your good friend's wife work out every single day?

Phreddy

1/20/21 11:52am

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