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Jan 22, 2021
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Gerald-DeGroot
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Lol. The best part is that I’m am a science guy 99% of the time. THATS WHY IVE
BEEN SO AGAINST SCHOOLS AND OTHER RIDICULOUS THINGS BEING SHUTDOWN.
The “science” and data doesn’t support it.
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"I'm not an an antivaxxer, but. . ." No, you are just an antivaxxer.
ReyOso
1/22/21 9:36am
What if I want more studies about the effectiveness of natural immunity for
DeekLyfter
1/22/21 9:39am
Ah dang, I saw your fine print after I posted.
DeekLyfter
1/22/21 9:40am
The * covers that case.
ReyOso
1/22/21 9:40am
This. Having had it already I'm in no rush.
Fargo
1/22/21 10:48am
This is entirely reasonable and even laudable to some degree.
StalwartBraveTrue
1/22/21 12:35pm
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Fightgar
1/22/21 9:45am
What if I've already had the virus and don't think the vaccine will give my any
BYUMizzou
1/22/21 9:50am
Never mind - you hid my case in the fine print
BYUMizzou
1/22/21 9:51am
Yeah... and Biden won the election too
shammy
1/22/21 9:51am
Oh boy...
Mr. Rumsfield
1/22/21 10:48am
Meh, I don't think I'll even be eligible for the vaccine until summer
Bar7h
1/22/21 9:59am
What if I'm the last person in line to get the vaccine and we are already at 95%
Coach's Dad
1/22/21 10:03am
Absolutely wrong.
gangbusters
1/22/21 10:05am
Are you claiming people got the virus from the shot?
Charles Darwin
1/22/21 10:16am
Not at all.
gangbusters
1/22/21 10:18am
Can you clarify what you meant by this?
Charles Darwin
1/22/21 10:25am
It seems like he's just saying that he's heard of people getting the virus after
NVCougar
1/22/21 12:25pm
Of course it’s wrong.
shammy
1/22/21 10:20am
Exactly
gangbusters
1/22/21 10:23am
Your research sounds like a collection of anecdotal evidence
Charles Darwin
1/22/21 10:27am
Nope
gangbusters
1/22/21 10:33am
It absolutely does and it takes a second dose. How could you have researched
Charles Darwin
1/22/21 11:30am
But what does that have to do with them dying after the vaccine?
gangbusters
1/22/21 12:25pm
People in nursing homes that are very ill are going to die all the time
Charles Darwin
1/22/21 12:58pm
Perhaps they contracted it without symptoms in the days prior to the vaccine?
StalwartBraveTrue
1/22/21 12:59pm
Just like the flu
CarolinaCoug
1/22/21 2:02pm
Interesting comments in the article give context.
StalwartBraveTrue
1/22/21 1:04pm
Oh geeze..let me explain that to you
CarolinaCoug
1/22/21 2:00pm
You make good points. Why just Norway?
gangbusters
1/22/21 2:14pm
Yep, dead on. People today are so intolerant of different opinions. Moderates
Fargo
1/22/21 10:52am
You consider yourself to be a moderate?
Charles Darwin
1/22/21 11:36am
You’re a kook and a wacko!! 😉
StalwartBraveTrue
1/22/21 12:54pm
Can you cite any evidence that would suggest not getting it?
CarolinaCoug
1/22/21 1:40pm
Wrong. I’m not an anti vaxxer but very hesitant to put anything in my body that
Gerald-DeGroot
1/22/21 10:12am
In other words, "I'm not an antivaxxer. . .but I'm an antivaxxer."
ReyOso
1/22/21 11:22am
Other vaccines have been around for longer than 3 months.
ochobeeguy
1/22/21 3:15pm
And the other diseases that we vaccinate for were way more deadly.
Gerald-DeGroot
1/22/21 4:12pm
Like chicken pox and the flu? Deadly like that?
ReyOso
1/22/21 4:16pm
All proven to be long term safe and no one is fighting to have those mandated.
Gerald-DeGroot
1/22/21 4:24pm
Chicken pox vaccine is mandated in all 50 states for public school attendance.
ReyOso
1/22/21 4:32pm
Wrong. I’m a brand new, rushed, not at risk, 95%+ mortality rate, cautious
Gerald-DeGroot
1/22/21 5:07pm
Honestly if this is how you live and measure risk there’s no shame in it.
StalwartBraveTrue
1/22/21 1:06pm
Me and the wife have had a few discussions about it. Haven’t decided yet. And
Gerald-DeGroot
1/22/21 1:47pm
Sure, there is a risk of the unknown long term effect of the vaccine. However,
botticus
1/22/21 7:36pm
Underrated post right here. All the claims about worrying about the long term
ColonelMustard
1/22/21 9:46pm
What if I'm uneasy about long-term problems, & don't feel my kids need one?
ochobeeguy
1/22/21 10:13am
Your kids can't legally get it. Can you clarify what you mean by long term
Charles Darwin
1/22/21 10:18am
Unknown side effects that may show up later that we don't know about yet.
ochobeeguy
1/22/21 3:13pm
Can you give examples of previously unknown maladies from other vaccines
Charles Darwin
1/22/21 7:41pm
All of the smart people I know (including doctors) are, at minimum, skeptical
GeraldGarner
1/22/21 10:21am
Which vaccine side-effects occur manifest only long after vaccination?
Charles Darwin
1/22/21 10:28am
Late-onset autism
TheLoanArranger
1/22/21 10:52am
The reason would be so that you don't spread the disease to people who will
DescendentCoug
1/22/21 11:21am
You mean people who will be getting the vaccine?
ochobeeguy
1/22/21 3:14pm
So you painstakingly describe a conspiracy theorists approach
StalwartBraveTrue
1/22/21 1:14pm
This is not a persuasive rebuttal.
DMVCougar
1/22/21 1:32pm
Correct. It wasn’t meant to rebut anything.
StalwartBraveTrue
1/22/21 1:46pm
Only needed the first word there.
DMVCougar
1/22/21 3:55pm
Did many need any of those words.
StalwartBraveTrue
1/22/21 6:16pm
RE: All of the smart people I know (including doctors) are, at minimum,
davemic
1/22/21 2:28pm
I think most doctors are actually not very bright.
GeraldGarner
1/22/21 4:13pm
Says the guy who used 'all the smart people I know (including doctors)'
StalwartBraveTrue
1/22/21 8:41pm
Including doctors - because relative to subject
GeraldGarner
1/23/21 9:50am
RE: I think most doctors are actually not very bright.
davemic
1/22/21 11:10pm
This post says A LOT about you ReyOso. To make a blanket statement like this
Gerald-DeGroot
1/22/21 10:35am
It does say a lot. It says I trust science and the process more than antivaxxers
ReyOso
1/22/21 11:24am
... and anyone that doesn’t agree with you or is wary of the brand new vaccine
Gerald-DeGroot
1/22/21 11:52am
I think they are 100% wrong, yes. That's accurate summary of my position.
ReyOso
1/22/21 12:17pm
Cool bro. Well I think that people who blindly believe and trust the “science”
Gerald-DeGroot
1/22/21 12:52pm
Really? Looks like you've been ranting about COVID for months.
ReyOso
1/22/21 12:57pm
Lol. The best part is that I’m am a science guy 99% of the time. THATS WHY IVE
Gerald-DeGroot
1/22/21 1:00pm
Okay, then I admit I don't understand.
ReyOso
1/22/21 1:08pm
Whoa. My kids school just sent out some absolute Bullyewt letter trying to
Gerald-DeGroot
1/22/21 1:32pm
Now you are starting to sound like an antivaxxer.
StalwartBraveTrue
1/22/21 1:50pm
The last paragraph is not my reason for being cautious. I’m just asking for a
Gerald-DeGroot
1/22/21 2:06pm
Is the question:“if I’m not at risk myself, why do I need to get the vaccine?”
StalwartBraveTrue
1/22/21 2:23pm
I always agreed with that line of thinking before the 19. I hated anti-Vaxxers
Gerald-DeGroot
1/22/21 2:33pm
we all get older every day..everyone on the planet will be in that
CarolinaCoug
1/22/21 3:33pm
I mean I don’t know really what to say other than to direct you to the post you
Gerald-DeGroot
1/22/21 4:11pm
I think you've moved away from "the unknowns" to "it's not a serious disease".
StalwartBraveTrue
1/22/21 8:16pm
It’s a very serious disease. It’s scary. The response is a hoax and mankind
Gerald-DeGroot
1/22/21 8:25pm
I think you've nailed it on the head. If Covid vaccine were a 'Usual' vaccine
StalwartBraveTrue
1/22/21 8:37pm
So how does your argument hold up when you read these studies?
gilmerbuckeye
1/23/21 12:47am
Doesn’t change anything at all in the “scenario” I addressed in the post.
StalwartBraveTrue
1/23/21 9:03am
I’ve had the first dose and had a terrible reaction to it. My PCP ordered me to
TexanY
1/22/21 10:46am
Big pharma, big gov't, highly politicized, highly rushed. What could possibly go
Fargo
1/22/21 10:55am
I guess conspiracy theory nuts could seize on it. That's something to go wrong.
ReyOso
1/22/21 11:25am
Don't buy masks. Stay indoors. Intubate the very ill.
DMVCougar
1/22/21 12:14pm
Do you have a reply, or just a thumbs down?
gangbusters
1/22/21 11:25am
I’ll take it just to shut all you whiners up.
Cobra Venom
1/22/21 12:31pm
I don't normally get the flu vaccine because I never get the flu or if I do get
gilmerbuckeye
1/22/21 2:58pm
The issue with this argument is that you could be asymptomatic and still spread
Mr. Rumsfield
1/22/21 4:13pm
But if you’re vaccinated, you’re safe, so why worry about others getting it?
Cobra Venom
1/22/21 4:33pm
If these vaccines are as effective as we think they are, they can virtually wipe
Mr. Rumsfield
1/22/21 4:51pm
you do know they have stated there isn't any evidence you can't spread it if you
gilmerbuckeye
1/22/21 6:05pm
More fear. Not backed by any Science.
Cobra Venom
1/22/21 6:43pm
Wrong. Did you even take one minute to google that before you spouted ignoranc?
gilmerbuckeye
1/22/21 7:59pm
Yes, that is the case with most vaccines. They take a while, sometimes years
Mr. Rumsfield
1/22/21 6:52pm
There has never been a vaccine that has prevented disease but not prevented
botticus
1/22/21 7:32pm
Rey, I applaud you for sticking your neck out on this.
botticus
1/22/21 8:07pm
And if that bears out in reality, I will run to get mine. I just want to wait
gangbusters
1/22/21 8:36pm
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