100% this. After OU/TX backed out, CU/UU was the fallback adding new markets

Jan 25, 2022
2:32:55pm

threezeroeight All-American

and allowing for a CCG which at the time required a league to have 12 teams. Years later, the Big 12 got a waiver (or they changed the rule) to hold one with only 10 teams in the league.

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The PAC12's decision to exclude BYU may end up costing them more than a few

NOCAL_YFAN

1/25/22 1:51pm

Romans 12:19; all promises fulfilled.

panacablue

1/25/22 1:55pm

RE: The PAC12's decision to exclude BYU may end up costing them more than a few

acougfan

1/25/22 1:57pm

Ah.....Merton Hanks and his old chicken dance

TNT

1/25/22 1:58pm

Bigger problem is if USC and others get wandering eyes for the B1G or SEC

Doogal McCougar

1/25/22 2:07pm

I could see BIG10 but SEC? No- unless it’s one huge conference that spilts again

SouthernBlueBlood

1/25/22 2:22pm

Yes, and that problem becomes more likely by making decisions that aren't based

NOCAL_YFAN

1/25/22 2:40pm

I honestly don't think it was anywhere near that nuanced or nefarious

krindorr

1/25/22 2:13pm

The P12 prides itself on Conference of Champions, all of which are non-football and hoops.

Turnpike Lane

1/25/22 2:21pm

Back to the OP. They thought they could flip that by damaging BYU and funding

travelcoug

1/25/22 2:27pm

The P12 didn't think twice about BYU. Why would they schedule BYU if they were out to get them? I do think the P12

TFL

1/25/22 2:43pm

If you think that the Pac 12 taking Utah is what deflated the Mountain West conf

travelcoug

1/25/22 3:56pm

Uhh...I think you answered my question. By taking Utah

TFL

1/26/22 1:05pm

You need to coordinate better with people on your team. I can’t believe they

travelcoug

1/25/22 7:59pm

True, if you're looking non-football, then BYU would have a stronger case. Just figured football drives realignment

krindorr

1/25/22 2:27pm

$$$$ drives realignment, so football is the engine.

Turnpike Lane

1/25/22 2:28pm

This^^^

Waddamy

1/25/22 4:40pm

Small regional schools like utah and TCU were never a better fit.

travelcoug

1/25/22 2:34pm

If course you don’t. You think they look at a couple of season results and say

travelcoug

1/25/22 2:24pm

they were invited mostly because they added new markets

Belboz

1/25/22 2:26pm

100% this. After OU/TX backed out, CU/UU was the fallback adding new markets

threezeroeight

1/25/22 2:32pm

Utah was the fallback, Colorado wasn't. (They may have been seen as the first break in the dam though)

krindorr

1/25/22 2:44pm

Although to be fair, Utah / CU was already approved but were asked to go big. There was already the sense

TFL

1/25/22 2:52pm

You are correct and worded your post better than I did. Agreed.

threezeroeight

1/25/22 4:09pm

Interestingly though Utah has worked out very well for the PAC12 while Colorado has been kind of disappointing

krindorr

1/25/22 4:49pm

You're giving WAY too much credit to recent on the field performance, which

NOCAL_YFAN

1/25/22 2:34pm

I'm not convinced with your strength of schedule argument. BYU played

byusage

1/25/22 3:01pm

Pac took Utah over BYU because of religion and Big 12 took TCU because of BYU

johnnybyu

1/25/22 6:10pm

If you need to know who takes football more seriously look no further than 2020.

andrewg3

1/25/22 2:25pm

And that fact has not been lost on recruits recently either - talent has been

NOCAL_YFAN

1/25/22 2:36pm

The Big 12 made a huge mistake passing up an ideal, P5 ready BYU. They got it right this time and it was a steal. But

TFL

1/25/22 2:37pm

I applaud Utah for what they have accomplished in the PAC12. KW has done well.

NOCAL_YFAN

1/25/22 3:03pm

I don't think it's reasonable to suggest that the Pac-12's struggles are permanent and Utah's successes are temporary

TFL

1/25/22 3:21pm

IMO, Utah's continued success will be determined by who KW's replacement will be

NOCAL_YFAN

1/25/22 3:35pm

I agree Utah has done well in the PAC. I think the Pac would love to have the

johnnybyu

1/25/22 6:15pm

The Utah fanbase isn't as big of a deal as it's made out to be here. There are the big boys and everyone else

TFL

1/25/22 7:04pm

This is an interesting and valid point

krindorr

1/25/22 7:21pm

Depends on your expectations. The Big 12 will get a big media deal. Everyone wins. But if you're expecting

TFL

1/25/22 7:36pm

I'm amenable to that argument, but that would mean Utah could also drive viewership

krindorr

1/25/22 7:44pm

Yep. CFB fanhood is about understanding your place and managing expectations. When you have a program like

TFL

1/25/22 8:13pm

Don’t forget NIL…

rmarkerm

1/25/22 10:13pm

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