Pac took Utah over BYU because of religion and Big 12 took TCU because of BYU

Jan 25, 2022
6:10:10pm

johnnybyu All-American

demands. BYU weathered the storm and got much smarter in the process. Both conferences should have added BYU back in the day. The pac 12 could really use the BYU attendance bump. The evaporation of their fanbases has been astonishing.

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The PAC12's decision to exclude BYU may end up costing them more than a few

NOCAL_YFAN

1/25/22 1:51pm

Romans 12:19; all promises fulfilled.

panacablue

1/25/22 1:55pm

RE: The PAC12's decision to exclude BYU may end up costing them more than a few

acougfan

1/25/22 1:57pm

Ah.....Merton Hanks and his old chicken dance

TNT

1/25/22 1:58pm

Bigger problem is if USC and others get wandering eyes for the B1G or SEC

Doogal McCougar

1/25/22 2:07pm

I could see BIG10 but SEC? No- unless it’s one huge conference that spilts again

SouthernBlueBlood

1/25/22 2:22pm

Yes, and that problem becomes more likely by making decisions that aren't based

NOCAL_YFAN

1/25/22 2:40pm

I honestly don't think it was anywhere near that nuanced or nefarious

krindorr

1/25/22 2:13pm

The P12 prides itself on Conference of Champions, all of which are non-football and hoops.

Turnpike Lane

1/25/22 2:21pm

Back to the OP. They thought they could flip that by damaging BYU and funding

travelcoug

1/25/22 2:27pm

The P12 didn't think twice about BYU. Why would they schedule BYU if they were out to get them? I do think the P12

TFL

1/25/22 2:43pm

If you think that the Pac 12 taking Utah is what deflated the Mountain West conf

travelcoug

1/25/22 3:56pm

Uhh...I think you answered my question. By taking Utah

TFL

1/26/22 1:05pm

You need to coordinate better with people on your team. I can’t believe they

travelcoug

1/25/22 7:59pm

True, if you're looking non-football, then BYU would have a stronger case. Just figured football drives realignment

krindorr

1/25/22 2:27pm

$$$$ drives realignment, so football is the engine.

Turnpike Lane

1/25/22 2:28pm

This^^^

Waddamy

1/25/22 4:40pm

Small regional schools like utah and TCU were never a better fit.

travelcoug

1/25/22 2:34pm

If course you don’t. You think they look at a couple of season results and say

travelcoug

1/25/22 2:24pm

they were invited mostly because they added new markets

Belboz

1/25/22 2:26pm

100% this. After OU/TX backed out, CU/UU was the fallback adding new markets

threezeroeight

1/25/22 2:32pm

Utah was the fallback, Colorado wasn't. (They may have been seen as the first break in the dam though)

krindorr

1/25/22 2:44pm

Although to be fair, Utah / CU was already approved but were asked to go big. There was already the sense

TFL

1/25/22 2:52pm

You are correct and worded your post better than I did. Agreed.

threezeroeight

1/25/22 4:09pm

Interestingly though Utah has worked out very well for the PAC12 while Colorado has been kind of disappointing

krindorr

1/25/22 4:49pm

You're giving WAY too much credit to recent on the field performance, which

NOCAL_YFAN

1/25/22 2:34pm

I'm not convinced with your strength of schedule argument. BYU played

byusage

1/25/22 3:01pm

Pac took Utah over BYU because of religion and Big 12 took TCU because of BYU

johnnybyu

1/25/22 6:10pm

If you need to know who takes football more seriously look no further than 2020.

andrewg3

1/25/22 2:25pm

And that fact has not been lost on recruits recently either - talent has been

NOCAL_YFAN

1/25/22 2:36pm

The Big 12 made a huge mistake passing up an ideal, P5 ready BYU. They got it right this time and it was a steal. But

TFL

1/25/22 2:37pm

I applaud Utah for what they have accomplished in the PAC12. KW has done well.

NOCAL_YFAN

1/25/22 3:03pm

I don't think it's reasonable to suggest that the Pac-12's struggles are permanent and Utah's successes are temporary

TFL

1/25/22 3:21pm

IMO, Utah's continued success will be determined by who KW's replacement will be

NOCAL_YFAN

1/25/22 3:35pm

I agree Utah has done well in the PAC. I think the Pac would love to have the

johnnybyu

1/25/22 6:15pm

The Utah fanbase isn't as big of a deal as it's made out to be here. There are the big boys and everyone else

TFL

1/25/22 7:04pm

This is an interesting and valid point

krindorr

1/25/22 7:21pm

Depends on your expectations. The Big 12 will get a big media deal. Everyone wins. But if you're expecting

TFL

1/25/22 7:36pm

I'm amenable to that argument, but that would mean Utah could also drive viewership

krindorr

1/25/22 7:44pm

Yep. CFB fanhood is about understanding your place and managing expectations. When you have a program like

TFL

1/25/22 8:13pm

Don’t forget NIL…

rmarkerm

1/25/22 10:13pm

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