I'm not sure Utah pushed USC out...

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Jul 1, 2022
9:09:42am

krindorr Intervention Needed

I'm not sure Utah pushed USC out...

I'm also not sure BYU completely owns the Salt Lake market. Even if you think all Utah fans are anti-BYU fans, there's a steadily growing non-LDS population in the state. I think any argument that either BYU or Utah has basically all the fans in state is probably steeped in bias.

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If the B12 were smart they would extend invitations to every relevant P12 team

CaliWG

7/1/22 7:38am

They absolutely need to be aggressive. Kill the PAC. If they can secure being #3

TerpCoug

7/1/22 7:41am

You can kill the PAC without taking all of them. Keep the flexibility to expand with ACC if the B1G or SEC make moves

molodyets

7/1/22 7:43am

I think smarter to brand it as a sort of MERGER than a kill.

7/1/22 7:44am

I don’t know if a merger is good for the overall product. How much do Wazzu and

TerpCoug

7/1/22 7:46am

Exactly, not all PAC schools, just the cream.

7/1/22 8:11am

Kill it! It's dog eat dog now. The B10 and SEC are going after Clemson, FSU,

ImuaKahuku

7/1/22 9:34am

...Big 10 and SEC.... proceed.

Benfica1

7/1/22 9:39am

Thanks! The B12 having 10 and the B10 having 14 just doesn't register in my head

ImuaKahuku

7/1/22 9:43am

This is what killed the WAC though. So there is some need to be careful and do

BYUMizzou

7/1/22 7:43am

The WAC was the first Super Conference and that "newness" is what killed it. Now

ImuaKahuku

7/1/22 9:20am

As I understand it….

BlueTeach

7/1/22 7:43am

I guarantee you the PAC 10 orphans are talking to everyone and anyone to see

BYUMizzou

7/1/22 7:44am

Why can't they reach out?

Mister P

7/1/22 7:46am

Tampering laws

RGGeemer

7/1/22 8:23am

It's why Bob Bowlsby had so much to say about ESPN in the OU and UT move.

Narfin'Coug

7/1/22 8:58am

The PAC is thinking the same thing about the Big 12

7/1/22 7:45am

Difference is they have significantly less leverage. Especially if Ore/Wash go.

TerpCoug

7/1/22 7:46am

The PAC has way more potential if UO and UW stay

7/1/22 7:49am

That’s a massive if at this point.

TerpCoug

7/1/22 7:51am

Nobody is making a move until they know

7/1/22 7:52am

They don’t. That’s why usc and ucla left. Their tv markets don’t pay. They

Horacio Caine

7/1/22 8:06am

The TV viewership for the remaining PAC teams isn't notably worse than for the remaining Big 12

krindorr

7/1/22 8:48am

The bottom line is their deal pays $22mil less - no teams of note will go there

Horacio Caine

7/1/22 9:48am

Both teams are renegotiating right now; honestly it's going to be the networks' call

krindorr

7/1/22 10:24am

They lack leverage, they have to negotiate their media contract next.

Baylorbears11

7/1/22 7:56am

Organizationally, that's a big jump from where the conference is now

teancum

7/1/22 7:45am

I think the opposite now… no one wants to deal with the ultra militant wokenes…

kotacoug

7/1/22 7:48am

Pretty sure those conversations will be happening today.

runningryan

7/1/22 7:53am

Low trust is the current driver

7/1/22 7:55am

Big XII needs to secure the AZ schools immediately. Then see if they can get UW

BYUtka

7/1/22 7:56am

Agree with adding AZ schools ASAP. But,

Benfica1

7/1/22 8:22am

The AZ move would be important to show stability and further disrupt the PAC.

BYUtka

7/1/22 8:26am

I'm not sure Utah pushed USC out...

krindorr

7/1/22 9:09am

1000% this is the wise course of action

gww687

7/1/22 8:33am

Take ASU NOT U of A. They are a horrible football school and Tucson is small.

7/1/22 8:48am

Addin U of A would make b12 basketball even better,

Kolipoki

7/1/22 8:53am

I mean Tucson has 500,000+ people and a metro area of 1,000,000+. Not exactly tiny.

byuluvr

7/1/22 9:02am

Adding the pair makes more sense than adding just just one. Unless you have one

BYUtka

7/1/22 9:03am

I say Ore and WA, maybe ASU and AZ and go for FSU, Miami, and Clemson, promise

ImuaKahuku

7/1/22 9:48am

Forget the political garbage of Wa and OR let them figure out their own mess.

kotacoug

7/1/22 10:14am

How could you not have a seat at the table when you have every south western

Blue2thebone

7/1/22 10:18am

If the Big12 is smart they will have done research on almost all schools when

Cougarite

7/1/22 11:10am

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