When you lose the spirit of the law you lose it’s purpose & it becomes a cudgel

Aug 11, 2022
9:16:13pm

ImuaKahuku All-American

As I understand it, the honor code was thought up, adopted, and implemented by the students in BYU’s early days. So why can the students today not ask for a referendum on it to make a few changes, mostly regarding dress and grooming?

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ImuaKahuku

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I "Hate" being that person...

VACOUGFAN

8/11/22 9:38am

She loves being that person.

IGotGoodGifs

8/11/22 9:40am

exactly

Avery

8/11/22 9:53am

Yep

Pretorian

8/11/22 4:43pm

She should change her name to Karen.

Big McLargeHuge

8/11/22 8:16pm

Why "Karen"?

BYUBandfan

8/12/22 7:13am

RE: Why "Karen"?

The_Cuss

8/12/22 8:02am

Pretty offensive to 99.99 % of people named Karen, isn't it?

BYUBandfan

8/12/22 9:14am

If they take offense to that the name probably suites them well.

The_Cuss

8/12/22 9:22am

Yes, all Karen’s and Brandens have had a recent spell of bad press

Pretorian

8/12/22 12:16pm

They don’t call her Kell Haight for nothing.

DieHarder

8/11/22 9:41am

Haighter gonna Haight

BlooGeek

8/11/22 1:05pm

Karen gonna Haight

Pergamino

8/11/22 1:43pm

She’s not wrong. I got turned away from the ID center with less facial hair than

Grammar Police

8/11/22 9:44am

You should have practiced harder.

Sea Chicken

8/11/22 9:46am

people at the testing center don't know who 99% of the athletes are. if you have

gilmerbuckeye

8/11/22 9:59am

I was hassled about even in 2018. IME it was always the female employees who didn't understand how 5oclock shadow works

backprop

8/11/22 10:34am

I know someone who was hassled for having a mustache. Clean-shaven otherwise.

Music

8/11/22 10:50am

There are some sheltered chicks in the BYU student population

DirtyWater

8/11/22 12:18pm

They are legion. But their Queen is THE Michelle Peralta!

mvtoro

8/11/22 12:30pm

how long ago, and what did you do about it?

DJROSS

8/11/22 10:05am

Just over a year and a half ago. Went home and shaved.

Grammar Police

8/11/22 10:09am

Correction- it was a little over 2 years ago

Grammar Police

8/11/22 10:40am

Dang, I think I had to do that once. ‘‘Twas a long walk to shave and return.

cougsareforreal

8/11/22 5:20pm

The question shouldn't be, "Why do athletes get preferential treatment"...

canndyman

8/11/22 11:09am

You are correct sir. Nailed it.

The_Cuss

8/11/22 11:51am

Ok this is one of the greatest posts TNT has ever read

TNT

8/11/22 2:18pm

RE: The question shouldn't be, "Why do athletes get preferential treatment"...

fruitless

8/11/22 2:30pm

My dos centavos on that:

Ursas Puma

8/11/22 2:56pm

I respectfully have to disagree...

canndyman

8/11/22 8:53pm

I struggle to think you really mean that

cajuncoug

8/12/22 1:56am

Only thing similar is Military. They want people to be the same.

Dr MoBYU

8/11/22 2:59pm

RE: The question shouldn't be, "Why do athletes get preferential treatment"...

GhostRider

8/11/22 4:10pm

Exactly. It's literally the same overall concept

Resurgens

8/11/22 4:38pm

I'm not sure your last sentence is correct. Conformity is deeply ingrained

coolblue

8/11/22 4:56pm

I suppose that’s a fair statement, but I would parse that the conformity is

Resurgens

8/11/22 7:30pm

RE: The question shouldn't be, "Why do athletes get preferential treatment"...

devcougar

8/11/22 6:28pm

I don't mind the honor code, but the dress and grooming standards should be the same expectations we have for any church

ChinaFan

8/11/22 7:23pm

When you lose the spirit of the law you lose it’s purpose & it becomes a cudgel

ImuaKahuku

8/11/22 9:16pm

RE: The question shouldn't be, "Why do athletes get preferential treatment"...

coventry94

8/12/22 8:30am

This post is like Lincoln at Gettysburg

cajuncoug

8/12/22 5:15pm

I got turned away the same day I shaved, but later got an ID with full scruff...

Jingleheimer

8/11/22 3:58pm

I had a beard as an adjunct. I was told by one of the people who recruited me that I didn’t have to shave if I was

mvtoro

8/11/22 4:10pm

...which is why we should get rid of them and make the honor code match doctrine

Resurgens

8/11/22 4:33pm

we know her real name

TheRowdy

8/11/22 9:44am

I was thinking Michelle Peralta

Florwood

8/11/22 9:52am

Same person who starts with “I’m sorry, but…”

DKN

8/11/22 9:45am

Add the "no offense intended but..." people too that list

ImuaKahuku

8/11/22 10:41am

If you ever have to start a sentence with "Hate being that person" then you

ybecausethatswhy

8/11/22 9:46am

you shouldn't have a beard if you are in a bishopric

Garn

8/11/22 9:52am

Guess I will tell the bishop in the ward I visited a couple weeks ago. He and one of his councilors are full bearded.

DJROSS

8/11/22 10:07am

Yeah, but they’re doing a church film.

mvtoro

8/11/22 11:12am

We recently moved out of that ward. Great story about an ear and one of the film

Ripliancum

8/11/22 12:39pm

I have been in bishoprics with 4 bishops and a branch presidency with long hair

NYC and Japan

8/11/22 12:40pm

My current bishop is a BYU professor. His hair's usually longer than mine summer

NYC and Japan

8/11/22 12:50pm

I feel that way when people say “no offense but…” if you’re starting with that

Pretorian

8/13/22 6:36am

Sounds like she isn't up on the changes to dress and grooming for cultural sensitivity reasons

Turnpike Lane

8/11/22 9:46am

Is that actually spelled out in the HC? I hope so because that is

ChiCityCoug

8/11/22 10:39am

Sweet! That opens up a lot of options then due to my Scandinavian ancestry!

Ursas Puma

8/11/22 12:29pm

Doesn’t seem right to discriminate among “cultures.”

AZcougLawyer

8/11/22 12:30pm

It was in that diversity study at BYU.

ImuaKahuku

8/11/22 9:02pm

I didn’t even know there were updates

ColonelMustard

8/11/22 11:02pm

I wish I had time to worry about things that aren't my job.

Garn

8/11/22 9:47am

Probably related to Michelle Peralta.

TADOW

8/11/22 9:47am

What happened now?

NOCAL_YFAN

8/11/22 9:49am

Hates being “that person”, is “that person”

LaVellIfIKnow

8/11/22 9:49am

RE: I "Hate" being that person...

Kavorka

8/11/22 9:49am

Somebody tell her she shouldn't post immodest photos online or watch TV-MA television

kccougar

8/11/22 9:49am

There's a reason she's all alone in bed watching a movie with her dog

volleyjiver

8/11/22 10:09am

hahahaha

The_Cuss

8/11/22 11:54am

She's just asking to get the Michelle Peralta treatment.

Bossk82

8/11/22 9:50am

How about just applying the same leeway to all students?

DirtyWater

8/11/22 9:51am

That's my view. Enforce it or change it. Doing neither creates confusion and

NewMexiCoug

8/11/22 10:12am

Michelle Peralta’s dupe account?

blackandblue

8/11/22 9:51am

My first thought too.

Little Mac

8/11/22 9:58am

RE: Michelle Peralta’s dupe account?

Northwest Cougar

8/11/22 10:18am

Dear Kell….

pegushin

8/11/22 9:54am

Did she forget it’s summertime and school isn’t in session?

BlooCoog

8/11/22 9:55am

- This right here - No one cares right now...

NVCougar

8/11/22 2:26pm

I'm fine with BYU athletes getting a free beard card.

ThomasQKelly

8/11/22 9:56am

Good thing school is out

JuicyJam

8/11/22 9:57am

Not sure how she had time to worry about that, with all her retweets of ads promising free stuff to retweeters.

valcorger

8/11/22 9:58am

It’s one of the sacrifices we have to make, Kell.

mobomanjoe

8/11/22 9:59am

🙄

boctabulous

8/11/22 10:05am

She's just mad that she can't grow that thick of a beard

thewaterboy

8/11/22 10:09am

Or … maybe she can grow the beard

NVCougar

8/12/22 8:37am

A lot of them cut it/shave it before school starts anyway

2FarGone

8/11/22 10:11am

Lay off her man. She’s just a lady expressing herself. Leave her be.

Dr MoBYU

8/11/22 10:13am

Good advice, but aren't the players just expressing themselves, too?

2FarGone

8/11/22 10:16am

Still, she seems like you know, she’s maybe just a nice lady with a churchy mind

Dr MoBYU

8/11/22 10:18am

hmm - IDK, ignorance is not a good excuse when you're an adult, and in this case

Avery

8/11/22 10:32am

Disagree then. Just no need to get personal.

Dr MoBYU

8/11/22 10:51am

She decided to publicly comment, criticize, and tag the coach, his boss, team

The_Cuss

8/11/22 11:58am

Your attacks on her aren't accomplishing what you think they are.

DirtyWater

8/11/22 12:16pm

#1 I didn't attack her. #2 Most comments like she is a Karen is not an "Attack"

The_Cuss

8/11/22 12:25pm

Nobody is "attacking" her per se but they also show that not all BYU fans are

Archaea

8/11/22 6:23pm

Who wants a say over what men do with their bodies

Ojiisan

8/11/22 10:54am

This sort of mindset needs to be banished from the earth.

Archaea

8/11/22 6:21pm

Eh... she has the right to express herself, and we have the right to express our

Resurgens

8/11/22 4:46pm

They should wait until school starts to take the photo. They have another week

87cougs

8/11/22 10:30am

thought the same thing

zerome4sooners

8/11/22 11:33am

Pretty sure they need them for the press package (i.e., before 1st game)

DirtyWater

8/11/22 12:17pm

Maybe let’s not worry about the

rainbowcosmo

8/11/22 10:35am

Her focus is all wrong. The issue isn't what the football team looks like.

JupiterJones

8/11/22 10:40am

How do you feel about the Yankees not allowing facial hair?

ChiCityCoug

8/11/22 10:42am

That's dumb too. And I hate the Yankees. So that clouds my vision.

VACOUGFAN

8/11/22 1:18pm

Haha fair enough. I’m no Yankees fan, just funny that we aren’t the only

ChiCityCoug

8/11/22 1:34pm

I got a little scruffy over the summer when not in classes. I was told...

CougarGM

8/11/22 11:45am

I thought she was going to complain about package visibility in yet another pict

gaspasscoug

8/11/22 10:49am

Mason Wake distracted by a bird off to the left.

ChiCityCoug

8/11/22 11:03am

He is just wondering if he could hurdle the bird while in flight

Ojiisan

8/11/22 11:24am

Probably a Ute fan or some other Axe to grind. Why is

1CougFan

8/11/22 11:33am

Technically, school has not started yet so......

trumpetur

8/11/22 11:55am

She should be more concerned about the ridiculous grooming standards of the

idcougarfan

8/11/22 12:02pm

RE: I "Hate" being that person...

Ursas Puma

8/11/22 12:35pm

I agree Kell. How dare they have scruff when I got told I couldn't take a test in the testing center with morning

germm

8/11/22 12:54pm

If you have rules, apply them equally. Or don’t have the rule. Simple concept.

Lombardi

8/11/22 1:53pm

Get rid of the Hair and Beard part of the Honor Code already!!!!

DCCougFan

8/11/22 2:37pm

What haircuts is she referring to? They look fine to me. A couple goatees but

Nagurski

8/11/22 3:34pm

I’m not going to lie…After reading the responses on Twitter i’m embarrassed

ColonelMustard

8/11/22 4:35pm

What are they getting away with anything? School doesn't begin for 18 days.

slatecoug

8/11/22 5:21pm

I don’t think they are. But she obviously wasn’t thinking of that

ColonelMustard

8/11/22 11:00pm

Yep, and that's why the post is so silly.

slatecoug

8/12/22 2:07am

She doesn't deserve kindness as she wasn't kind.

Archaea

8/11/22 5:29pm

Is that how that works?

lukeskywalker

8/11/22 10:13pm

These type of takes are used against BYU in recruiting. The reaction is a

Six Foot Seven

8/15/22 3:48am

Wow. Let it go. I thought BYU had updated its hair and grooming standards.

ohiocougar

8/11/22 4:36pm

You are that person!

coolblue

8/11/22 4:47pm

She is getting completely torched on Twitter! Almost feel bad but

GangstaLean

8/11/22 4:58pm

If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

Cougar Junkie

8/11/22 5:27pm

She deserves the Michelle Peralto treatment. Torch her.

Archaea

8/11/22 5:28pm

I have mixed feelings about the grooming part of the honor code

TheLoanArranger

8/11/22 5:03pm

I suspect this is another Ute fan posing as a Coug fan.

Archaea

8/11/22 5:32pm

I wonder if she's somehow related to David B. Haight

VACOUGFAN

8/11/22 5:39pm

Let’s hope not. I am going with a Ute fan posing

Archaea

8/11/22 5:44pm

Unfortunately a quick scan of her posts indicates a high probability of an actual BYU Karen in the wild. 😢

GangstaLean

8/11/22 5:47pm

Michelle Peralta her Cougs! Go get her!

Archaea

8/11/22 6:20pm

Didn't realize school had started.

RebelScum

8/11/22 7:21pm

The more embarrassing part is that the grooming restrictions are still a thing

Cougz19

8/11/22 8:11pm

naw, I think there are limits, free will doesn't work, there is an image to maintain. That said, trying to treat

ChinaFan

8/11/22 8:39pm

Physical appearance has nothing to do with what's in one's heart.

Cougar Junkie

8/11/22 8:42pm

RE: Physical appearance has nothing to do with what's in one's heart.

ChinaFan

8/14/22 6:15pm

Heard it here first. The way someone looks represents their heart! Shallow? No!

The_Cuss

8/14/22 7:46pm

This might be the most ridiculous thing I have seen on CB in a very long time.

Cougz19

8/14/22 8:44pm

Beards look good, bring them back into style!

Mitty

8/12/22 2:48pm

It turns out I know this person. Interesting she cares. She went to BYU, but is

indocoug

8/11/22 10:15pm

So just another mid 30s woman starting to lose her mind. She will have blue hair

Ojiisan

8/11/22 10:21pm

I used to be in a ward with her at byu too. Not for too long and it was so long

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