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Nov 20, 2014
5:03:53pm
Well, you said a lot of things, didn't you? Notice that the question you posted,
sandwiched as it is between the question in your title and the question near the end of your post, does NOT merely ask when will Bronco supporters change their minds. It asks when will they start to question him instead of making a bunch of excuses. You're conflating a bunch of stuff and calling it nuanced, when really you're just confusing different issues and making assumptions about Bronco supporters. Specifically, you think you've asked a single question to Bronco supporters. But here's what you actually asked:

- At what point is it Bronco's fault for not excelling?

Then, you ask:

- When will those 100% behind Bronco will start to question him instead of either giving excuses for injuries, coaching, recruits, the Honor Code, or whatever else? (if you don't think this question exposes an agenda, you're are very incorrect).

You might think those are the same question, but they are not, as we'll discuss further below.

You go on to talk about a lot of stuff - an indictment of Bronco's tenure as head coach - and then ask again:

- At what point is Bronco himself the one responsible for the mediocre product on the field?

The first and last questions are pretty much the same - is Bronco responsible for the product on the field. That's easy to answer - of course Bronco is responsible, he's the head coach. I don't think you'll actually find many people that would disagree that the ultimate responsibility is Bronco's.

The middle question is completely different from the first and last questions. Basically, it asks when will Bronco supporters stop making excuses for him. This is the good ol' "when did you stop beating your wife?" type of question. The question is based on the false premise that support for Bronco can only be based on the excuses you listed. The bulk of your post tries to argue that the excuses aren't valid, and therefore Bronco supporters should start holding him responsible (which, in your mind, means wanting Bronco gone). The question ignores the reality that Bronco supporters can and do have legitimate, non-excuse based reasons for wanting to stick with him.

The premise upon which nearly your entire post is based is that Bronco supporters base their support on a bunch of illegitimate excuses. If only Bronco supporters would stop making those excuses, they'd see that Bronco needs to go. That's the agenda you're pushing, and it's clear as day.

Your post was hardly an honest attempt to understand Bronco supporters.
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