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Dec 22, 2014
10:05:17am

pittsburghcoug

For the Bronco supporters.

I think it's clear two regional rivals have passed up BYU - Utah and Boise State. We can explain Utah somewhat to recruiting better and by belonging to a better conference, but how in the heck do we explain Boise State? I have lost count of the New Years bowl games they have been to. They have made a living off of developing recruits that didn't have many other options. How do you explain it?

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For the Bronco supporters.

12/22/14 10:05am

Honor code.

2 Tru Blue

12/22/14 10:06am

Even with the honor code, we

12/22/14 10:07am

Since '05(Bronco yr. 1) BSU 9-8 vs. P5; BYU 17-18 vs. P5

rcbyufan

12/22/14 11:33am

This. I do think Boise is better coached (and I'm a Bronco guy), but the overall

shakinbaker

12/22/14 11:40am

Such a cop out and lame excuse.

Downtown

12/22/14 11:29am

Boise has no honor code, hence no limit on who can come play.

agentbb007

12/22/14 10:07am

+academic rigor, +coaching

benny1982

12/22/14 10:08am

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agentbb007

12/22/14 10:22am

You explain it this way

teancum

12/22/14 10:08am

Bingo

12/22/14 10:09am

So you don't think Bronco is a good coach got it, but curious specifically what

agentbb007

12/22/14 10:56am

RE: So you don't think Bronco is a good coach got it, but curious specifically

rckrunner

12/22/14 1:13pm

Bronco challenges

wilsdad

12/22/14 2:13pm

Sure, but how can you not say that there is more to it than just that?

2 Tru Blue

12/22/14 10:15am

There is no other explanation.

12/22/14 10:17am

Hmmmm. So it's coaching and nothing else. No other factor at play here?

2 Tru Blue

12/22/14 10:19am

According to Rivals both beat us in recruiting

shakarocks

12/22/14 12:35pm

Yes. BSU has outrecruited us the last 4 years.

Blue Cat

12/22/14 12:41pm

Of course there is

teancum

12/22/14 10:28am

And if you do you miss out on a bunch of important things

BYUfan92

12/22/14 10:23am

expound on this?

teancum

12/22/14 10:32am

Already noted here by many - no HC, easy academics, good coaching, a little luck

BYUfan92

12/22/14 10:48am

I would argue that recruiting is part of coaching

teancum

12/22/14 11:24am

Coaching is very different than recruiting to me. Bad coaches can be great

BYUfan92

12/22/14 11:38am

BSU passed up BYU before Bronco was the coach. If they really passed BYU.

Lance71

12/22/14 10:08am

Shall we do a comparison?

12/22/14 10:12am

I won't argue they haven't. But it still happened before Bronco.

Lance71

12/22/14 10:13am

Certainly before Crowton's time.

ByuMba90

12/22/14 10:22am

Look at the recent history before Bronco vs. what Utah, TCU and BSU had going.

Blue Cat

12/22/14 10:35am

One

Sea Chicken

12/22/14 10:09am

BSU. Isn't that the team we blew out last year, and would had beat them the yr

viper

12/22/14 10:10am

What is our overall record against them?

12/22/14 10:13am

In the past 10 years, each team has 1 blow out win, and then the 1 toss-up game

viper

12/22/14 10:22am

Let's talk bowl games and players to the

12/22/14 10:28am

Oh, so now you judge success off of bowl games, not head to head? There goes

viper

12/22/14 10:31am

I didn't say anything about bowl game

12/22/14 10:36am

Whatever helps you sleep at night. Boise has owned BYU the past decade. One win

Nakedbootleg

12/22/14 10:13am

And one blowout this year with a toss up match a few years ago does not mean

viper

12/22/14 10:20am

BSU is a good landing spot for kids who don't qualify for P12 schools.

Blueto

12/22/14 10:10am

This is the most accurate reason. BSU find a way to qualify them where other

2 Tru Blue

12/22/14 10:17am

Please provide the evidence that this is

12/22/14 10:21am

sure. I'm going to do all of that work to show you that it is the case just so

2 Tru Blue

12/22/14 10:24am

BSU then turns them in great students (source below)

BSUbluNorange

12/22/14 11:44pm

That is a nice excuse. Too bad it's not true.

12/22/14 10:19am

its nice to see that the guy asking the original question is SOOOO open

2 Tru Blue

12/22/14 10:22am

i accept the honor code excuse.

12/22/14 10:23am

Earlier you said that BYU gets better recruiting classes. Now you are saying the

2 Tru Blue

12/22/14 10:29am

i didn't say such a thing.

12/22/14 10:34am

You edited your post.

2 Tru Blue

12/22/14 11:06am

You're short on facts

shakarocks

12/22/14 12:47pm

This is a terrible take

shakarocks

12/22/14 12:37pm

A true desire to do what it takes to keep up with the competition.

Polecat

12/22/14 10:12am

Boise State has minimal academic standards and no honor code. 2 big + for them

BYUfan92

12/22/14 10:19am

And Utah State is nipping at the heels.

Mathew

12/22/14 10:26am

good point, this same question could be applied to Utah State soon.

agentbb007

12/22/14 10:28am

How would Washington State and Oregon State answer the question?

NewMexiCoug

12/22/14 10:28am

I agree with this, but the point of the OP is still relevant

teancum

12/22/14 10:30am

Are you saying that BYU should be okay with

12/22/14 10:31am

I'm not sure I follow your reasoning that anything that happens at BSU

ByuMba90

12/22/14 10:40am

I am saying that Boise has passed by a lot of teams in the region, many of

NewMexiCoug

12/22/14 10:40am

They play tougher conference games. BYU can't argue that.

lawboy

12/22/14 10:33am

Agree, but in a scheduled game, Boise would be favored to beat

NewMexiCoug

12/22/14 10:52am

Who's Bronco's Replacement??

byucrazy

12/22/14 10:35am

I didn't say anything about Bronco being fired.

12/22/14 10:39am

I'm not calling for Bronco to be fired, but your order is wrong

teancum

12/22/14 10:41am

Handful of replacements. If you think Bronco is the only HC

Mathew

12/22/14 10:47am

Oh I don't know...any coach who can beat mid-level MWC teams.

UNLVcougar

12/22/14 10:56am

This is such a ridiculous comment. I hope you really don't believe what you said

shakinbaker

12/22/14 11:33am

As a BSU fan (and alumnus) let me try to "explain Boise State"

Dread Pirate Westley

12/22/14 11:09am

I agree mostly

teancum

12/22/14 11:32am

I think we are in agreement. Honestly I wasn't that sad when Pete went to UW

Dread Pirate Westley

12/22/14 11:42am

While I do think Boise has enjoyed better coaching than BYU, the same could be

shakinbaker

12/22/14 11:25am

For Bronco Haters: LaVell isn't walking thru that door....

CougarinOZ

12/22/14 1:09pm

They were past us before Bronco took over

binghammer

12/22/14 1:50pm

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