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Dec 22, 2014
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NewMexiCoug
How would Washington State and Oregon State answer the question?
I think you could argue that Boise has passed them by as well, even though they have all the advantages of conference, etc.
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For the Bronco supporters.
pittsburghcoug
12/22/14 10:05am
Honor code.
2 Tru Blue
12/22/14 10:06am
Even with the honor code, we
pittsburghcoug
12/22/14 10:07am
Since '05(Bronco yr. 1) BSU 9-8 vs. P5; BYU 17-18 vs. P5
rcbyufan
12/22/14 11:33am
This. I do think Boise is better coached (and I'm a Bronco guy), but the overall
shakinbaker
12/22/14 11:40am
Such a cop out and lame excuse.
Downtown
12/22/14 11:29am
Boise has no honor code, hence no limit on who can come play.
agentbb007
12/22/14 10:07am
+academic rigor, +coaching
benny1982
12/22/14 10:08am
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agentbb007
12/22/14 10:22am
You explain it this way
teancum
12/22/14 10:08am
Bingo
pittsburghcoug
12/22/14 10:09am
So you don't think Bronco is a good coach got it, but curious specifically what
agentbb007
12/22/14 10:56am
RE: So you don't think Bronco is a good coach got it, but curious specifically
rckrunner
12/22/14 1:13pm
Bronco challenges
wilsdad
12/22/14 2:13pm
Sure, but how can you not say that there is more to it than just that?
2 Tru Blue
12/22/14 10:15am
There is no other explanation.
pittsburghcoug
12/22/14 10:17am
Hmmmm. So it's coaching and nothing else. No other factor at play here?
2 Tru Blue
12/22/14 10:19am
According to Rivals both beat us in recruiting
shakarocks
12/22/14 12:35pm
Yes. BSU has outrecruited us the last 4 years.
Blue Cat
12/22/14 12:41pm
Of course there is
teancum
12/22/14 10:28am
And if you do you miss out on a bunch of important things
BYUfan92
12/22/14 10:23am
expound on this?
teancum
12/22/14 10:32am
Already noted here by many - no HC, easy academics, good coaching, a little luck
BYUfan92
12/22/14 10:48am
I would argue that recruiting is part of coaching
teancum
12/22/14 11:24am
Coaching is very different than recruiting to me. Bad coaches can be great
BYUfan92
12/22/14 11:38am
BSU passed up BYU before Bronco was the coach. If they really passed BYU.
Lance71
12/22/14 10:08am
Shall we do a comparison?
pittsburghcoug
12/22/14 10:12am
I won't argue they haven't. But it still happened before Bronco.
Lance71
12/22/14 10:13am
Certainly before Crowton's time.
ByuMba90
12/22/14 10:22am
Look at the recent history before Bronco vs. what Utah, TCU and BSU had going.
Blue Cat
12/22/14 10:35am
One
Sea Chicken
12/22/14 10:09am
BSU. Isn't that the team we blew out last year, and would had beat them the yr
viper
12/22/14 10:10am
What is our overall record against them?
pittsburghcoug
12/22/14 10:13am
In the past 10 years, each team has 1 blow out win, and then the 1 toss-up game
viper
12/22/14 10:22am
Let's talk bowl games and players to the
pittsburghcoug
12/22/14 10:28am
Oh, so now you judge success off of bowl games, not head to head? There goes
viper
12/22/14 10:31am
I didn't say anything about bowl game
pittsburghcoug
12/22/14 10:36am
Whatever helps you sleep at night. Boise has owned BYU the past decade. One win
Nakedbootleg
12/22/14 10:13am
And one blowout this year with a toss up match a few years ago does not mean
viper
12/22/14 10:20am
BSU is a good landing spot for kids who don't qualify for P12 schools.
Blueto
12/22/14 10:10am
This is the most accurate reason. BSU find a way to qualify them where other
2 Tru Blue
12/22/14 10:17am
Please provide the evidence that this is
pittsburghcoug
12/22/14 10:21am
sure. I'm going to do all of that work to show you that it is the case just so
2 Tru Blue
12/22/14 10:24am
BSU then turns them in great students (source below)
BSUbluNorange
12/22/14 11:44pm
That is a nice excuse. Too bad it's not true.
pittsburghcoug
12/22/14 10:19am
its nice to see that the guy asking the original question is SOOOO open
2 Tru Blue
12/22/14 10:22am
i accept the honor code excuse.
pittsburghcoug
12/22/14 10:23am
Earlier you said that BYU gets better recruiting classes. Now you are saying the
2 Tru Blue
12/22/14 10:29am
i didn't say such a thing.
pittsburghcoug
12/22/14 10:34am
You edited your post.
2 Tru Blue
12/22/14 11:06am
You're short on facts
shakarocks
12/22/14 12:47pm
This is a terrible take
shakarocks
12/22/14 12:37pm
A true desire to do what it takes to keep up with the competition.
Polecat
12/22/14 10:12am
Boise State has minimal academic standards and no honor code. 2 big + for them
BYUfan92
12/22/14 10:19am
And Utah State is nipping at the heels.
Mathew
12/22/14 10:26am
good point, this same question could be applied to Utah State soon.
agentbb007
12/22/14 10:28am
How would Washington State and Oregon State answer the question?
NewMexiCoug
12/22/14 10:28am
I agree with this, but the point of the OP is still relevant
teancum
12/22/14 10:30am
Are you saying that BYU should be okay with
pittsburghcoug
12/22/14 10:31am
I'm not sure I follow your reasoning that anything that happens at BSU
ByuMba90
12/22/14 10:40am
I am saying that Boise has passed by a lot of teams in the region, many of
NewMexiCoug
12/22/14 10:40am
They play tougher conference games. BYU can't argue that.
lawboy
12/22/14 10:33am
Agree, but in a scheduled game, Boise would be favored to beat
NewMexiCoug
12/22/14 10:52am
Who's Bronco's Replacement??
byucrazy
12/22/14 10:35am
I didn't say anything about Bronco being fired.
pittsburghcoug
12/22/14 10:39am
I'm not calling for Bronco to be fired, but your order is wrong
teancum
12/22/14 10:41am
Handful of replacements. If you think Bronco is the only HC
Mathew
12/22/14 10:47am
Oh I don't know...any coach who can beat mid-level MWC teams.
UNLVcougar
12/22/14 10:56am
This is such a ridiculous comment. I hope you really don't believe what you said
shakinbaker
12/22/14 11:33am
As a BSU fan (and alumnus) let me try to "explain Boise State"
Dread Pirate Westley
12/22/14 11:09am
I agree mostly
teancum
12/22/14 11:32am
I think we are in agreement. Honestly I wasn't that sad when Pete went to UW
Dread Pirate Westley
12/22/14 11:42am
While I do think Boise has enjoyed better coaching than BYU, the same could be
shakinbaker
12/22/14 11:25am
For Bronco Haters: LaVell isn't walking thru that door....
CougarinOZ
12/22/14 1:09pm
They were past us before Bronco took over
binghammer
12/22/14 1:50pm
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