This! There's a lot of quakery out there. Natural birth is not one of them.

May 4, 2015
4:04:37pm

runnincoug

For some people it's a good choice, for some it's not. There will be some research on one side, and some research on the other. But it's not overwhelming research like there is with some of quack practices out there.

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What is it with young moms in the church that feel like giving birth

TexanY

5/4/15 2:25pm

You can remove "in the church" from your rant and it works just fine.

kccougar

5/4/15 2:27pm

RE: What is it with young moms in the church that feel like giving birth

concolor couguar

5/4/15 2:27pm

One of my kids and my wife are alive today because she was in a hospital.

coolblue

5/4/15 2:43pm

If something goes wrong, no amount of money you save could compensate your loss.

mikeynolikey

5/4/15 2:54pm

Wow, my last was over $5k with insurance. No complications.

PharmD

5/4/15 2:59pm

Cheaper if you don't have insurance. They'll jack it up as much as they can

tebowned

5/4/15 3:55pm

I recommend starting the epidural in month 5

Sea Chicken

5/4/15 2:28pm

I'm enjoying an epidural as we speak.

Rich Lather

5/4/15 2:29pm

I wonder what they'll do when a baby dies on them.

Mister P

5/4/15 2:29pm

This is the exact reason I think it's sheer stupidity. ULTIMATE price if wrong.

LeftOfNormal

5/4/15 2:37pm

Mommy blogtographers are getting more advanced.

Triggerhappybunny

5/4/15 2:30pm

Not arguing for either here but the human race was able to successfully give

vacougfan

5/4/15 2:30pm

Yeah. Ignore mortality rate.

WDaddy

5/4/15 2:31pm

Well duh.

vacougfan

5/4/15 2:32pm

Yeah, third world countries are full of mid-wives. We should try to be more like

Mister P

5/4/15 2:32pm

I'll take what was the US Infant Mortality Rate in the 1900's, Alex

darkcoug

5/4/15 2:33pm

My wife uses a midwife. We give birth at the hospital.

Alister Mackenzie

5/4/15 2:31pm

This seems like the most common sense approach.

vacougfan

5/4/15 2:32pm

I wouldn't let my wife deliver outside of a hospital. I just think that's too

Alister Mackenzie

5/4/15 2:33pm

Haven't got a problem in the world with this strategy. Some women need to feel

LeftOfNormal

5/4/15 2:42pm

I respect this.

TexanY

5/4/15 2:33pm

We give birth?

concolor couguar

5/4/15 2:35pm

I'd say so. If you had nothing to do with the planning, preparation, or delivery

Mister P

5/4/15 2:39pm

If you say so

concolor couguar

5/4/15 2:44pm

This is the male equivalent of "we start dental school next fall !!!"

Non-donor troll

5/4/15 3:05pm

There's a big difference between a Nurse midwife and a weekend class midwife

IGlowInTheDark

5/4/15 2:36pm

Yep.

Alister Mackenzie

5/4/15 2:37pm

This. My wife has had a midwife deliver both of our daughters.

ebv

5/4/15 2:54pm

I agree about the epidurals. My wife hated it. She had 1 kid with an epidural,

WDaddy

5/4/15 2:36pm

We've done the same thing

HiLife

5/4/15 2:39pm

Anesthesiologist here

Rogue Gunner

5/4/15 3:24pm

Epidural = best $1k I ever spent.

PharmD

5/4/15 3:27pm

We used a midwife at home for our last four children. Yes, I hate the

cougarim

5/4/15 8:14pm

RE: We used a midwife at home for our last four children. Yes, I hate the

jbcoug

5/5/15 6:46am

Have you missed this entire thread?

King Philip

5/5/15 8:49am

Nope. As far as I can tell

jbcoug

5/5/15 8:57am

So yeah, you haven't read much of this thread. Gotcha.

King Philip

5/5/15 9:26am

One of them is in a huge debate with her soon to be ex-friend over Kate

TexanY

5/4/15 2:33pm

so, you want to give birth in that big building that people go to to die?

TheDeek

5/4/15 2:34pm

We were going to give birth at home but we wanted our baby to live.

Mister P

5/4/15 2:36pm

My wife gave birth to our second child without an epidural.

PharmD

5/4/15 2:34pm

I bet that's some delicious steak and lobster you'll get, too

BYUCoug11

5/4/15 2:35pm

Maybe that is what they do with the afterbirth. Dinner is ruined!

TexanY

5/4/15 2:36pm

Epidurals are the best thing ever. I don't get people,would you get a root canal

Mayor of Cougartown

5/4/15 2:36pm

My sister-in-law has had some side effects from an epidural.

El Jefe

5/4/15 2:40pm

My sister has delivered 5 kids

HiLife

5/4/15 2:43pm

like everything - with few exceptions.

Mayor of Cougartown

5/4/15 2:48pm

You need to be one with the tooth as they extract it. Wow that is some funny

tebowned

5/4/15 3:56pm

Are you delivering at Baylor Frisco?

jbcoug

5/4/15 2:38pm

Yup. Dr. Holt

TexanY

5/4/15 2:39pm

their rants are among the most obnoxious I read/hear.

Belboz

5/4/15 2:38pm

My wife was hospital, epidural with the first two, and then mid wife, birthing

ICBlue

5/4/15 2:39pm

If God didn't want women to use an epidural, why did he create epidural space?

darkcoug

5/4/15 2:40pm

I'm pretty skeptical with alternative medicine, but there's something to natural

runnincoug

5/4/15 2:41pm

Links to studies that show the risks of home births to not be so "tremendous"?

Nathanael Greene

5/4/15 3:18pm

Here

runnincoug

5/4/15 3:23pm

The first link is about cost not risk

concolor couguar

5/4/15 3:33pm

It talks about both. But the point is, look at all of those sources

runnincoug

5/4/15 3:59pm

I only see where it talks about cost

concolor couguar

5/4/15 4:06pm

Fine. But that's a red herring. Look at all the other research.

runnincoug

5/4/15 4:39pm

True science at work.

IGlowInTheDark

5/4/15 5:07pm

You made a false claim. That's not a red herring.

Nathanael Greene

5/5/15 7:20am

A red herring is to get distracted by a minor detail. The minor detail

runnincoug

5/5/15 7:26am

Your original post read as though you were claiming medical interventions

concolor couguar

5/5/15 8:31am

Good grief. OK, here

runnincoug

5/5/15 8:42am

I read this last night. Its not bad.

Nathanael Greene

5/5/15 9:07am

Thank you. This is a more helpful/useful discussion.

runnincoug

5/5/15 11:05am

It depends on if they have symptoms that indicate a possible ectopic pregnancy

concolor couguar

5/5/15 11:20am

As I mentioned in my previous my post my issue is not with that portion of your

concolor couguar

5/5/15 9:41am

Excuse my frustration, but can you understand when you are trying to make

runnincoug

5/5/15 10:57am

Im not talking about the article you misrepresented

concolor couguar

5/5/15 11:09am

I did not say that hospitals increase risks. Read again.

runnincoug

5/5/15 12:33pm

I may be younger than some of you, but wasn't an epidural that thing they used

mikeynolikey

5/4/15 2:42pm

Yes, before it was usually a knife under the pillow to cut the pain.

TexanY

5/4/15 2:43pm

I don't get why this even matters, the doctor is there for the pushing only

JOPE

5/4/15 2:43pm

Uh. The Doctor is insurance.

Mister P

5/4/15 2:45pm

my opinion is not anti-doctor

JOPE

5/4/15 2:53pm

Why does the hospital think they can charge my insurance $16k

PharmD

5/4/15 2:45pm

It's the lobster, man. They get you with the lobster and ice chips.

TexanY

5/4/15 2:46pm

Socialized medicine. You're covering the NICU babies.

SandYFan

5/4/15 2:50pm

Not exactly, more like paying my wife to care for those NICU babies. Thank you

ByuMba90

5/4/15 3:00pm

Because this happens when you get meds at the hospital.

Dread Pirate Westley

5/4/15 2:59pm

I don't get this. If you see a regular doctor, they give you plenty of chances

NorthernLight

5/4/15 3:01pm

My wife had both our kids with no epidural but she had morphine given for pain

CanuckUte

5/4/15 3:04pm

Why worry about how other people want to give birth? People make

Thrill

5/4/15 3:38pm

This! There's a lot of quakery out there. Natural birth is not one of them.

runnincoug

5/4/15 4:04pm

There is some quackery associated with natural birth as well.

King Philip

5/4/15 4:29pm

The most quacky are always the most vocal, unfortunately. Gives others a bad rep

runnincoug

5/5/15 12:34pm

I've known several women who go in to give birth naturally, and then give in.

sheriffcreg

5/4/15 4:29pm

Dumb is as dumb does.

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