I don't think they're evil, but like any other tool, in the wrong hands or used

Feb 10, 2016
3:07:56pm

Wedgetail Walk-on

without some care an forethought, they can be devastating like a lot of things in this world.

I personally don't use them much anymore, and it has nothing to do with believing them (or the idea of credit) to be evil.

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Can we put an end to the myth that credit cards are evil and we should never use

Machiavelli127

2/10/16 2:59pm

I actually buy dave's argument you do freely spend more just swiping a card

RdF3

2/10/16 3:01pm

Yep, I understand that viewpoint, but if you're a grown adult you need to learn

Machiavelli127

2/10/16 3:04pm

"if you're a grown adult you need to learn some self control and basic

Cougarfan777

2/10/16 3:36pm

That's a fair point, but only to a certain extent.

Machiavelli127

2/10/16 3:45pm

Too many people get too many cards to fast. Inevetably there comes a time

Cougarfan777

2/10/16 4:01pm

Well that's your problem right there...nobody is saying it's a good idea

Machiavelli127

2/10/16 4:45pm

I think we agree. Where I am being cautious is that all people's brains do not

Cougarfan777

2/10/16 5:10pm

Carrying a balance doesnt help your credit score at all. I track it weekly on

Machiavelli127

2/10/16 11:28pm

my brain has made the switch. I'm not a caveman

Mayor of Cougartown

2/10/16 3:19pm

Dave Ramsey is a moron.

RichieRich

2/10/16 3:04pm

Pretty sure he's evangelical

Moab Rising

2/10/16 3:06pm

think of how much money he's made on this.

TN_Coug

2/10/16 3:07pm

RE: Dave Ramsey is a moron.

Bullrider

2/10/16 3:14pm

I don't take advantage of stupid people.

RichieRich

2/10/16 3:31pm

and now we have venmo

ds7

2/10/16 3:04pm

wut?

mulletYno

2/10/16 3:05pm

I love venmo. Now there are no excuses for people not paying you back.

Duke Silver

2/10/16 3:11pm

I don't have the app.

Cougarrrs

2/10/16 5:17pm

You could also say the same thing about Apple pay, Samsung Pay, etc.

Machiavelli127

2/10/16 3:12pm

doubt it, unless they offer cash back and miles etc.

Mayor of Cougartown

2/10/16 3:20pm

Isn't this just paypal by a different name?

Cougarrrs

2/10/16 3:46pm

I don't think they're evil, but like any other tool, in the wrong hands or used

Wedgetail

2/10/16 3:07pm

It's a principle that some people absolutely need to live by.

sheriffcreg

2/10/16 3:09pm

Really good point...an improved credit score is another huge benefit.

Machiavelli127

2/10/16 3:16pm

agreed, credit cards know exactly what they are doing

Deleted

2/10/16 3:15pm

What were his other rules to live by?

Gente_Boa

2/10/16 3:32pm

It's not free money. It's a gamble on the creditors part, hoping you'll miss

Cougarrrs

2/10/16 3:39pm

It is free money if you do it correctly. There is no gamble.

Jeremy

2/10/16 3:49pm

Right. I've been doing it for 10 years

Westsider

2/10/16 3:53pm

You're the exception. As soon as people start being as responsible as you, there

Cougarrrs

2/10/16 4:05pm

Nah, the evil is greed and wanting what you can't afford.

Westsider

2/10/16 4:14pm

I somewhat agree, however the way that they are extended is quite evil.

Cougarrrs

2/10/16 4:41pm

Let me lay this out simply...

Machiavelli127

2/10/16 5:43pm

Let me rebut every single point, absolutely...

Cougarrrs

2/10/16 5:58pm

Likewise, I'll respond..

Machiavelli127

2/10/16 6:56pm

That's great that you are the exception but as I said before, the rule applies

Cougarrrs

2/10/16 9:05pm

This isn't exactly true. Credit card companies receive a fee every time you use

RdF3

2/10/16 4:08pm

^^This. Rewards $$ is just getting back a part of that fee

Westsider

2/10/16 4:11pm

those fees cover all sorts of things (insurance, systems maintenance, etc.)

Cougarrrs

2/10/16 4:44pm

sshhhhhhh why do you think those rewards exist? Keep quiet!

Jeremy

2/10/16 3:47pm

All Ramsey is saying is that CC's are an expensive way to fund a lifestyle that

vandersar

2/10/16 3:51pm

Yeah, that's exactly the wrong way to use a credit card.

Wadds

2/10/16 4:01pm

If someone is uncontrollably racking up debt on multiple credit cards,

Machiavelli127

2/10/16 4:38pm

dave ramsey treats credit cards like mormons treat beer....

idacoug

2/10/16 3:59pm

credit cards aren't evil, money isn't evil, but the love of money is the root of much of the evil in the world

Rooney

2/10/16 4:16pm

No we can't, because its not a myth. Props on those free airline miles, though.

WhyKnot

2/10/16 4:26pm

Cool, I will sit here collecting hundreds/thousands of dollars of cashback

Machiavelli127

2/10/16 4:48pm

Which card(s) do you have?

Cougarrrs

2/10/16 5:09pm

I guarantee if Machiavelli stopped using his credit cards and only used cash

WhyKnot

2/10/16 5:03pm

How can you guarantee this? You're making assumptions.

Westsider

2/10/16 5:11pm

I will glady wager a hefty sum if Mach takes me up and proves me wrong.

WhyKnot

2/10/16 6:53pm

How much? What evidence do you need? I can easily disprove your stupid challenge

Machiavelli127

2/10/16 7:05pm

I knew you were all talk.

Machiavelli127

2/10/16 11:21pm

You're absolutely wrong.

Machiavelli127

2/10/16 5:32pm

Which card(s) do you have?

Cougarrrs

2/10/16 5:42pm

I use the Chase Freedom card, which is 1% cash back on all purchases and 5%

Machiavelli127

2/10/16 6:59pm

Chase freedom is 5% on up to 1500 which max's the payout at $75.

Cougarrrs

2/10/16 9:27pm

It's extremely simple:

Machiavelli127

2/10/16 11:17pm

And like I said, for you that's great. You're the exception.

Cougarrrs

2/11/16 10:30am

Ok, but stop acting like it is a huge job to manage this stuff

Westsider

2/11/16 10:39am

It is huge. I pay about a dozen bills per month. You're saying pay these weekly

Cougarrrs

2/11/16 1:11pm

I don't see the need to pay the card off weekly

Westsider

2/11/16 1:21pm

He's the one who suggested that it was the appropriate course of action.

Cougarrrs

2/11/16 5:47pm

Pay off your CC's however often you want, as long as it's at LEAST once a month

Machiavelli127

2/12/16 9:19am

I knew you were all talk.

WhyKnot

2/10/16 6:52pm

You've offered nothing valuable to this conversation and your "challenge"

Machiavelli127

2/10/16 7:01pm

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