What?...are the WCC folks taking the missionary discussions?

how do you know this brotha?

byuguns55

8/21/11 10:11pm

This is the worst news I've ever heard

YLife

8/22/11 6:54am

+google

Gerald-DeGroot

8/22/11 5:56pm

I would like to welcome the newest member of my club.

TDAWGCOUG

8/21/11 10:13pm

I think it is smart to decline

Rapturemaker

8/22/11 8:16am

I trust bluebrotha

84 Grad

8/21/11 10:15pm

lets all pray he is wrong.

Xamius

8/21/11 10:21pm

That would mean 3 of us are wrong....

TDAWGCOUG

8/21/11 10:24pm

Just like the good scheduling info?

ALRMCoug

8/21/11 10:25pm

Announcements not being made YET doesn't mean the info is

TDAWGCOUG

8/21/11 10:26pm

Even when TH explicitly says it is wrong?

ALRMCoug

8/21/11 10:27pm

What has TH explicitly said was wrong about what I've said

TDAWGCOUG

8/21/11 10:37pm

He did say that most of the internet rumors were wrong.

rainorsnow

8/22/11 12:34am

RE: He did say that most of the internet rumors were wrong.

TDAWGCOUG

8/22/11 7:02am

this is one time I hope you are ;)

Xamius

8/21/11 10:25pm

always good to say "no thanks" to a sinking ship

cosmo8486

8/22/11 8:41pm

I think its more than 3

ABCoug

8/21/11 10:30pm

RE: I think its more than 3

BLU-82

8/22/11 1:22am

Like what?

ALRMCoug

8/21/11 10:24pm

oh, forgot to mention.....

bluebrotha

8/21/11 10:15pm

Series 2b announced with one team or more?

KoogFan

8/21/11 10:23pm

how many series?

The Shazad

8/21/11 10:28pm

I really can't believe BYU would mislead

BYU71

8/21/11 10:16pm

If AFA or UH or similar gets an invite in the near future

ABCoug

8/21/11 10:20pm

I would guess there wouldn't be a full invite, more of a

JamesDean

8/21/11 10:21pm

BYU cant assume they can say yes in a few years

Xamius

8/21/11 10:22pm

Its a risk worth taking

ABCoug

8/21/11 10:26pm

um, no it's not... not even close

Italics

8/22/11 1:49am

I don't think so. The whole landscape will change in the

JamesDean

8/21/11 10:26pm

Haven't seen that evidence yet

ABCoug

8/21/11 10:27pm

You cant also assume the big 12 will be gone

Xamius

8/21/11 10:28pm

The exposure conversation is so misunderstood. Its not just

JamesDean

8/21/11 10:31pm

Exactly

TNT

8/21/11 10:33pm

winning on the highest stage (BIG12/ BCS games)=

Cougarealist

8/21/11 10:36pm

BYU does not = Church, so no I think you misunderstand

JamesDean

8/21/11 10:46pm

but you said its not just about football

Cougarealist

8/21/11 10:49pm

Heavens...Its not about football its about church exposure

JamesDean

8/21/11 10:51pm

so what does your comment have to do with turning down BIG12

Cougarealist

8/21/11 10:52pm

Perhaps you should read the post I was answering.

JamesDean

8/21/11 10:56pm

btw you are so wrong

Cougarealist

8/21/11 10:53pm

Silly argument at best. No comparison.

JamesDean

8/21/11 10:58pm

silly argument?

Cougarealist

8/23/11 8:05am

I don't believe that

ALRMCoug

8/21/11 10:29pm

Also we don't have a lot of options

kotacoug

8/21/11 10:33pm

I don't buy that. To reach 16, the Pac12 could very well

JamesDean

8/21/11 10:37pm

lol turning down the PAC 16 would be even worse

Xamius

8/21/11 10:42pm

We'll have to disagree on that one. We'd be back in the MWC

JamesDean

8/21/11 10:44pm

If the MWC had those schools, I would welcome the MWC

Xamius

8/21/11 10:46pm

So it isn't really an option then, is it?

ALRMCoug

8/21/11 10:42pm

Well, yes, by every definition I know, it is. It just won't

JamesDean

8/21/11 10:45pm

Exactly ... I honestly don't think an invite has come or a

ALRMCoug

8/21/11 10:40pm

+1984--you are the only one that

SaintGeorgeYFan

8/21/11 11:32pm

With all that's gone on in just the past year alone, I find

JamesDean

8/21/11 10:35pm

Just remember how cyclical football programs are

kotacoug

8/21/11 10:29pm

As you mention...programs are cyclical...there's always

JamesDean

8/21/11 10:36pm

I don't think it will ever get to an official invite...

barnacle

8/21/11 10:22pm

I don't think a decision to turn down

BYU71

8/21/11 10:24pm

I think your right

ABCoug

8/21/11 10:33pm

Also, would the B12 really keep it a secret too?

rainorsnow

8/21/11 10:32pm

Oh, this will make Zach and his ilk very upset :-)

Hoopster

8/21/11 10:16pm

Thats what seems to be the consesus

ABCoug

8/21/11 10:18pm

I really hope he's mistaken

BlueBlood

8/21/11 10:20pm

Doesn't mean we are stuck here forever.

KoogFan

8/21/11 10:25pm

We've been here for 50+ years.

ABCoug

8/21/11 10:50pm

Exactly. This whole thing really makes me mad, if true.

Italics

8/22/11 1:51am

One big time school series would not compare with Big 12

Xamius

8/21/11 10:20pm

That wouldn't even compare.

ABCoug

8/21/11 10:21pm

That's a little disappointing. I like the espn coverage but

kotacoug

8/21/11 10:20pm

thats what I am worried about

ABCoug

8/21/11 10:23pm

That would be extremely disappointing.

Crush4

8/21/11 10:23pm

I have a reliable source who backs this up 100%

m4t4d0r

8/21/11 10:23pm

so do football only...

Xamius

8/21/11 10:25pm

If Rose & team make the NCAA's with 5 seeds

m4t4d0r

8/21/11 10:26pm

why is that the relevant measure?

Xamius

8/21/11 10:28pm

just passing on what I've heard

m4t4d0r

8/21/11 10:29pm

Never in WCC will we get a 5 seed. Never

ABCoug

8/21/11 10:37pm

Right. A 32-0 BYU team gets a 6 seed.

JAGA97

8/22/11 12:18pm

That's a huge-yewt if

ChopperDave

8/21/11 10:41pm

What does this even mean?

ALRMCoug

8/21/11 10:47pm

If Rose makes it to the Final 4 from the WCC

m4t4d0r

8/21/11 11:04pm

Really? Who would have thought?

ALRMCoug

8/21/11 11:06pm

Since you know what makes Dave Rose happy

m4t4d0r

8/21/11 11:16pm

Dude, do you seriously think Rose would be happy about

ALRMCoug

8/21/11 11:18pm

I don't know how old you are

m4t4d0r

8/21/11 11:28pm

I'm confused by your logic

cougarfruit

8/22/11 1:46pm

What about good will with Coach Rose?

Crush4

8/21/11 10:26pm

see above

m4t4d0r

8/21/11 10:27pm

What about the good will with the fans

BYU71

8/21/11 10:29pm

The ESPN bit is a big deal

m4t4d0r

8/21/11 10:31pm

espn could still get all the BYU games they want

Xamius

8/21/11 10:32pm

not under the current contract with Fox

m4t4d0r

8/21/11 10:34pm

doesnt espn get first pick?

Xamius

8/21/11 10:35pm

letting Fox have any games (even 2nd tier)

m4t4d0r

8/21/11 10:40pm

but they could still have as many BYU games

The Shazad

8/21/11 10:41pm

Um since they have 1st tier, they can pick, right?

Xamius

8/21/11 10:42pm

Then why didn't they buy the second tier rights too?

ALRMCoug

8/21/11 10:49pm

The current Big12 arrangement with Fox does not contemplate

m4t4d0r

8/21/11 11:03pm

You're changing the subject

ALRMCoug

8/21/11 11:04pm

?? 2nd tier is pretty easy to understand...

m4t4d0r

8/21/11 11:08pm

You aren't making any sense

ALRMCoug

8/21/11 11:10pm

Bottom line is whether BYU is willing to currently trade...

BaYoU

8/21/11 11:43pm

That re-negotiation is essentially what BYU wants to have

m4t4d0r

8/22/11 5:54am

Exactly.

BaYoU

8/22/11 8:39am

yes it does

The Shazad

8/21/11 11:07pm

I'm only passing on what I've heard

m4t4d0r

8/21/11 11:12pm

so it's only ESPN opposing this?

The Shazad

8/21/11 11:20pm

From my source

m4t4d0r

8/21/11 11:34pm

I hope they don't hold us hostage

The Shazad

8/21/11 11:42pm

You want Holmoe to just do what ESPN tells us to do

ALRMCoug

8/22/11 12:55am

Sounds a little bit like Comcast and the mtn. Yikes.

rainorsnow

8/22/11 1:02am

yeah - exactly like Comcast and the mtn

m4t4d0r

8/22/11 5:43am

"a little bit like" and "exactly" are two different things.

rainorsnow

8/22/11 2:56pm

RE: so is espn are pimp

kahuna

8/22/11 2:34am

yes, through 2016

The Shazad

8/21/11 10:40pm

Time will tell, I hope we don't just become a

BYU71

8/21/11 10:33pm

Then let them up the ante.

ABCoug

8/21/11 10:49pm

+1

Crush4

8/21/11 10:32pm

If they are letting friendships and good feelings...

Italics

8/22/11 1:53am

if you're letting your fandom get in the way

bdoggy