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Jan 9, 2018
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Bostonblue
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and I'm saying if you boil down priorities, coaching is the most important. I'm
not surprised at all that a coach wouldn't want to suggest that his program is mediocre because they have mediocre coaching.
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season ending inteview on 700 with KW. the thing that stuck with me was a few
johnnycarson
1/9/18 1:23pm
100% correct. Independence is not sustainable unless you go 11-2 or 12-1
pink22
1/9/18 1:26pm
Yeah, top recruits are fighting each other for spots on Mountain West teams!
adrock
1/9/18 2:11pm
G5 Rivals recruiting rankings since you went independent:
displacedute
1/9/18 4:01pm
Depressing. But I think rivals always downgrades byu
johnnycarson
1/9/18 4:19pm
Scout's numbers are not noticeably different.
displacedute
1/9/18 4:36pm
I've heard this on CB a few times. There's nothing that ever backs this claim up
BigBrotherUte
1/9/18 4:49pm
Was BYU's recruiting better before going independent?
baldcoug74
1/9/18 7:56pm
Yes.
displacedute
1/9/18 9:36pm
So in 7 years, BSU out recruited BYU 5 times & SDSU, FSU & SJSU once each.
ptcougr
1/9/18 8:51pm
I don't think we will. I think the season will mean more.
johnnycarson
1/9/18 9:51pm
While there is some truth, are there P5 teams whose recruiting rankings are
ByuMba90
1/9/18 1:30pm
we aren't trying to be oregon state. and there are also several g5 teams ahead
johnnycarson
1/9/18 1:31pm
How many G5's teams are ranked higher than BYU?
ByuMba90
1/9/18 1:32pm
this year? 5. including florida atlantic.
johnnycarson
1/9/18 1:35pm
In a typical season (not 2017) BYU would run over all of those schools
CaliWG
1/9/18 1:41pm
FAU is because of Lane Kiffen and only Lane Kiffen.
Dissenter
1/9/18 1:52pm
And how well are they doing?
mudpupper
1/9/18 2:17pm
From 2012-16 there were 3 P5s that averaged a lower recruiting ranking than BYU
Blue Cat
1/9/18 3:18pm
Isn't Sitake supposed to be an amazing recruiter?
acougfan
1/9/18 1:33pm
he is landing about where bronco did.
johnnycarson
1/9/18 1:35pm
after this year it will be well below
BigYfan
1/9/18 1:42pm
Yep. If recruiting is Kalani's strength, then BYU is in big trouble
Coogar2
1/9/18 6:03pm
Also.... If uva wins the acc... Byu is in big trouble.
johnnycarson
1/9/18 6:23pm
According Rivals, BYU had a spike for the class of 2016 up to #48 supposedly
Mikey
1/9/18 1:44pm
So far that is more MYTH than truth based on recruiting rankings.
Mr. Scoobs
1/9/18 1:53pm
Not if you consider transfers.
BeefNoodleSoup
1/9/18 2:02pm
Then you have to consider all transfers at every school, not just BYU
coolblue
1/9/18 2:05pm
Do you also consider transfers leaving the program in that equation??
byu_coug
1/10/18 6:15am
The net transfers for all programs combined is zero.
BeefNoodleSoup
1/10/18 3:27pm
Maybe if all else was equal. It's not though
Cashmeousside
1/9/18 2:08pm
Sitake was being judged by his recruiting in a P5 conference.
CharlottesvilleCoug
1/9/18 6:29pm
Weren't we in the 40s consistently as a MWC school? Indy will never work if we are stuck in the 60s.
Bert609
1/9/18 1:39pm
this year i think we'd kill for the 60s. i think we're like 80.
johnnycarson
1/9/18 1:40pm
Pretty sure BYU was normally 60ish
palangi
1/9/18 1:43pm
No. We hit 40 in 2010 but have been upper 50s and 60s for the most part.
Mikey
1/9/18 1:47pm
Saban also gets the best players because he's one of the best coaches
palangi
1/9/18 1:40pm
Yup. You have to have players/talent,unless your name is Ty.
CarolinaCoug
1/9/18 1:46pm
bad example because he was 60 spots lower than average
palangi
1/9/18 1:52pm
BYU's schedule was too easy to have a bottom 10 offense
TNT
1/9/18 1:56pm
He produced an offense 30 spots lower than his ranking.
mudpupper
1/9/18 2:19pm
since going indy. you realize we were in that same ranking frame beforehand. You could point
Bob Vance
1/9/18 2:05pm
i think we are in a worse position now though, because the p5 tier is so clearly
johnnycarson
1/9/18 2:11pm
So, the problem is that we aren't P5 and your solution is to join a G5 league?
SUAVO
1/9/18 5:37pm
Yep. Aac is better than indy.
johnnycarson
1/9/18 5:55pm
How does your solution solve the problem?
SUAVO
1/9/18 6:04pm
It doesn't. But at least it gives our season an obtainable meaningful
johnnycarson
1/9/18 6:23pm
Ok, but it doesn't solve anything as it pertains to the problem. It may even
SUAVO
1/9/18 6:32pm
An Ny6 game like ucf would do this program wonders.
johnnycarson
1/9/18 7:59pm
obtainale yes...meaningful, absolutely not. Not to recruits or fans.
Lance71
1/9/18 7:47pm
I refuse to believe that had we just beat auburn in the
johnnycarson
1/10/18 9:04am
I don't Indy has hurt recruiting so much as Utah being a decent P5.
mudpupper
1/9/18 2:21pm
he's not exactly unbiased on this front, right? It's not like he's going
Bostonblue
1/9/18 2:27pm
i think he's more saying that if you boil down priorities.....recruiting is
johnnycarson
1/9/18 2:45pm
and I'm saying if you boil down priorities, coaching is the most important. I'm
Bostonblue
1/9/18 3:08pm
As of now 2019 class is pretty solid if you ask me
BountifulCoug5
1/9/18 2:47pm
if they stay.
johnnycarson
1/9/18 2:56pm
Yep. 247 sports has a class calculator feature and if you put in all the 3 and 4
thaskoozcoug
1/9/18 3:46pm
You guys make me laugh... BYU is not a normal school!!!
TheLost
1/9/18 2:48pm
well then we should be dII.
johnnycarson
1/9/18 2:52pm
This is what drove Bronco’s recruiting strategy
hansel
1/9/18 3:16pm
This guy gets it. BYU will NEVER be able to CONSISTENTLY compete
Traveshamockery
1/9/18 3:19pm
Actually... I think they can... and i think KS is the key (flame suit on)
TheLost
1/9/18 5:20pm
I disagree. No way he (or anyone) can get enough recruits with a high level
Traveshamockery
1/9/18 6:21pm
It goes back to what BYU is..
TheLost
1/9/18 8:15pm
So fire an icon of the program. Great move.
Count Cougar
1/9/18 2:54pm
True. You win in college football by recruiting and coach a little along the way
Mark320
1/9/18 3:14pm
bronco sucked at recruiting and is an exception to the rule.....
idacoug
1/9/18 5:17pm
That's not fair.
displacedute
1/9/18 5:30pm
Bronco's first 5 classes averaged 42nd in the Country.
Gorum the Old
1/10/18 8:14am
So what does it say when BYU recruits in the 60s-70s, but has a computer ranking of about 36 from 2010-2016?
mulletino
1/9/18 6:44pm
It means Bronco is a good coach. Saved us from a mess and we are in one now.
Mr. Scoobs
1/9/18 7:11pm
Wnning is the biggest thing that helps this.
Coug Dude
1/9/18 7:56pm
This is news to you?
BlueSioux
1/9/18 8:07pm
What was Central Florida's recruiting rankings?
CougarCanuck76
1/9/18 9:24pm
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Swishfromdeep3
1/9/18 10:48pm
UCF's has been a little bit better than BYU's in recent years. One advantage
BigBrotherUte
1/10/18 11:48am
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