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May 16, 2022
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ND offered to pay many times, year after year. BYU begged ND not to pay
Exactly the same, except BYU’s reaction.
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Maybe I'm old school, but what Tennessee just did is plain wrong. Y fans show
CrimsonCoug81
5/16/22 5:04pm
$EC. So much money you buy out games you don't want.
Grit for Brains
5/16/22 5:06pm
Now Tennessee is scheduled to play 8 games in Tennessee. $$$. But yes. Lame.
Benfica1
5/16/22 8:21pm
How much money do they make per home game?
Dan
5/16/22 5:11pm
Do the math, they easily make well beyond $2M per home game
mudpupper
5/16/22 5:34pm
The game will be in nashville, not in Knoxville
Adrielle
5/16/22 8:12pm
It's not "plain wrong". Contracts have buyouts. If you pay the buyout, you fulfill the contract. That's not plain wrong
molodyets
5/16/22 5:11pm
Agree, it's disappointing, but not "plain wrong". BYU took the chance in
Y-Zag
5/16/22 5:14pm
Yep. Set the buyout higher next time.
hebercreeper
5/16/22 5:15pm
I agree, it is not wrong. It can be sleezy, but ...
Dan
5/16/22 5:15pm
Yeah, but there's some unwritten rules
HRCougar
5/16/22 5:28pm
No it isn’t. BYU didn’t have to agree to the terms. This was part of the deal.
Ozymandias
5/16/22 5:32pm
It’s a yewt move. Legal, but a yewt move.
HRCougar
5/16/22 8:03pm
Did you feel the same way about BYU canceling the USU games?
Ozymandias
5/16/22 8:22pm
Completely different circumstance. BYU had to cancel 9 games to make room for
Benfica1
5/16/22 8:25pm
And? They still used a negotiated provision in the agreement to cancel a game.
Ozymandias
5/16/22 8:47pm
That’s true, what is the motive behind each event? One is based on being afraid…
The_Cuss
5/16/22 10:34pm
Of course not. There are a number of differences that make that comparison
HRCougar
5/16/22 8:35pm
Lol. So if BYU takes advantage of a negotiated provision, all is above board,
Ozymandias
5/16/22 8:46pm
Hey look! These two things are exactly the same!
HRCougar
5/16/22 8:58pm
Feel free to explain the material differences as to why one use of contractual
Ozymandias
5/17/22 5:08am
Why? What good would it do?
HRCougar
5/17/22 7:16am
Got it. You can’t.
Ozymandias
5/17/22 7:48am
It's not really last minute, especially considering our 2023 schedule gor blown
FieroCoug
5/16/22 8:37pm
Paying liquidated damages is not "fulfilling the contract"
Goliath
5/16/22 8:20pm
It's literally the exact same thing we just did to Utah State. It's business.
Manti
5/16/22 5:19pm
Not really the same.
Dan
5/16/22 5:23pm
And BYU had the out clause in all the contracts for joining a P5
Big12Yfan
5/16/22 5:32pm
I consider an "out" the same as a buyout. Both teams are following the contract.
Manti
5/16/22 5:38pm
Apples and oranges… byu told teams upfront they were backing out if x happens
Big12Yfan
5/17/22 1:41pm
also, didn't BYU cancel the same amount of games at home vs away with USU?
yballa09
5/16/22 7:12pm
Both schools followed the predetermined, agreed upon contract.
Manti
5/16/22 7:18pm
Ya at the end of the day it is what it is. But as fans feeling slighted,
yballa09
5/16/22 7:25pm
To each their own.
Manti
5/16/22 7:30pm
Wrong. We did it because we had to get rid of games. Tennessee did it cause
SaintGeorgeYFan
5/16/22 8:14pm
They did it because they can make a lot more money playing the game we're being
Manti
5/16/22 10:21pm
If you ask me. BYU came out on top. We got paid $2 million to go beat them on
Powerbait DPM
5/16/22 5:20pm
It's the dog's breakfast that is college football. Caste and maneuvering.
Cougar Junkie
5/16/22 5:22pm
RE: Maybe I'm old school, but what Tennessee just did is plain wrong. Y fans
EtTuKalante
5/16/22 5:24pm
Tennessee? Not wrong. Notre Dame? Wrong.
Niiineteeen84
5/16/22 5:26pm
Why is it wrong? It was a part of the agreement.
Ozymandias
5/16/22 5:30pm
Just because there is a damages clause doesn't mean it's not wrong to
Goliath
5/16/22 5:42pm
Lol. It is an operable part of the agreement. Not sure why it is somehow wrong
Ozymandias
5/16/22 5:45pm
All damages clauses are "operable parts of the agreement"
Goliath
5/16/22 5:50pm
You are upholding the bargain. It is part of the bargain. It’s right there in
Ozymandias
5/16/22 5:55pm
If you don't think morality or ethics exist outside of the legal framework
Goliath
5/16/22 5:59pm
This is a term inside the agreement itself. Why would I consider things outside
Ozymandias
5/16/22 6:02pm
Dude, it's no different than any other contract. Sure they contain liquidated
Goliath
5/16/22 6:11pm
Lol. What is lost here is that you think that contracts should be governed by
Ozymandias
5/16/22 6:16pm
I am not disagreeing with you when looking at the issue case by case
Dan
5/16/22 6:28pm
If you only asked for $1000 deposit, you should realize that there is a very
Ozymandias
5/16/22 7:26pm
You are staring at a tree and ignoring a forest
Dan
5/17/22 11:19am
I guess I don’t understand your hypothetical. We they required to make an
Ozymandias
5/17/22 1:32pm
Yeah, I get it
Dan
5/17/22 2:15pm
Then the simple solution is to negotiate the terms you feel you need into the
Ozymandias
5/17/22 2:36pm
This has been explained to him by multiple people over and over
Goliath
5/17/22 5:50pm
Okay. Hopefully you don’t represent clients this way. Their loss when you rely
Ozymandias
5/17/22 6:47pm
Just because you're completely unaware of an entire field of contract law and
Goliath
5/16/22 6:33pm
Lol. Good luck representing clients without writing wanted provisions into an
Ozymandias
5/16/22 6:52pm
Look ... it is not "wrong", but it is not a good long term business model
Dan
5/16/22 6:15pm
Disagree. College football will be fine. Teams would respond by adding more and
Ozymandias
5/16/22 6:17pm
That is why it is only certain schools that can get away with it over and over
Dan
5/16/22 6:30pm
RE: Maybe I'm old school, but what Tennessee just did is plain wrong. Y fans
trigg3r
5/16/22 5:58pm
Yep..just like ND probably didn't intend to give a return game in Provo.
BlooCoog
5/16/22 6:40pm
Except Tennessee paid us for the cancelation. ND didn't
FieroCoug
5/16/22 8:38pm
ND offered to pay many times, year after year. BYU begged ND not to pay
NYC and Japan
5/16/22 11:00pm
It would bother me more if we were not heading into the Big XII
Traveling Coug
5/16/22 7:25pm
You're sounding like last week's Aggie fans.
ochobeeguy
5/16/22 7:53pm
Maybe not "wrong" per se, but weak.
Benfica1
5/16/22 8:22pm
We had such an amazing experience at the Tennessee game. They now suck.
kerm
5/16/22 9:02pm
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