I am not Polynesian, but I do shudder frequently at the discussion about...

Dec 9, 2017
11:19:58pm

cougarBee Playmaker

The “Polynesian culture” or “Island culture” on the board. I’ve always found it to be quite racist in nature. It just feels to me like many overall paint an entire group of people with a very broad brush. I have met many very disciplined and hard working Polynesian people.

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CougarBuddy

12/9/17 6:06pm

Thanks for sharing, despite the thumbs down from othwrs

BlackBart

12/9/17 6:17pm

You bet...

CougarBuddy

12/9/17 7:50pm

No, KS just needs to organize a midnight jog to Gettysburg where the team can

here's to hoping

12/9/17 9:51pm

Anyone who takes this at face value needs to have their head examined.

bluefish

12/10/17 12:03am

Please share a perspective rather than runoff those sharing what they hear.

BlackBart

12/10/17 4:57am

Agreed. Until names are named, and places, dates, times, etc are given and

BleedCougarBlue2

12/10/17 4:29pm

I think item #1 is the giant Gorilla in the room problem

mudpupper

12/9/17 6:22pm

Hopefully KS can recognize and change things around

1-Wing RCAF

12/9/17 6:47pm

Recognizing the problem and knowing how to fix it are two separate things.

Soy Celeste

12/10/17 6:37am

If he had 20 years coaching experience then maybe yes but no way this turns.

ToasterChive

12/10/17 11:15am

He has 17 years coaching experience, 13 at a P5 or BYU, 9 seasons as an AHC/HC

akmewg

12/10/17 12:00pm

I fear we are seeing the Peter Principle in action. Hope not!

Soy Celeste

12/10/17 1:25pm

That divide is evident on the sidelines. Real problem.

Coogar2

12/9/17 7:49pm

A poly problem? Such an ignorant comment.

Cougar4life123

12/9/17 11:21pm

You're contradicting yourself.

Shore10

12/10/17 10:50am

Thank you for your update!!

Idacoug2

12/9/17 6:44pm

Matt Richardson needs to be fired and held more accountable for the culture and problems.

CLCougar

12/9/17 6:56pm

And Tom H. To first he needs to go!

kahuna

12/9/17 7:05pm

And who is Matt Richardson?

Hank Rearden

12/9/17 7:08pm

Advancement VP at BYU

mudpupper

12/9/17 7:12pm

Here’s his bio

Saxa

12/9/17 7:13pm

how in the world is he qualified to oversee athletics at BYU? utterly ridiculous

mindzeYe

12/10/17 1:09am

Yikes. 99% of CB's resume would be more qualifying. BYU is truly not a serious

Ash

12/10/17 1:13am

He clearly isn't, but thought it would be fun, and could travel to all

CLCougar

12/10/17 12:50pm

He's a religion teacher, not even a professor of divinity. Yikes.

Archaea

12/10/17 5:07pm

Before reading, I suspected there would be some administrative or business exper

cajuncoug

12/11/17 7:07am

I am at the point where I don't believe 95% of what I hear on CB

HighHorse

12/10/17 6:30pm

Make that over 99%

HighHorse

12/10/17 6:51pm

If a fraction of the rumors/stories/accounts are true, the football office

mudpupper

12/9/17 7:21pm

STOP Posting

DCCougFan

12/9/17 7:31pm

STOP posting positive remarks

mudpupper

12/9/17 7:44pm

When Kalani rags on players and coaches, he is applauded for telling the truth

Coogar2

12/9/17 7:47pm

If true, fire TH, fire KS now.

SoValleyCOUG

12/9/17 8:06pm

Sorry sis Sitake

maxpowers

12/9/17 8:08pm

Ok you can stay in lala land, just stick your head in the sand and ignore the

kotacoug

12/9/17 8:45pm

No one is making you read these posts.

TrueBlue67

12/9/17 9:24pm

Ok, Baghdad Bob!

Kerbouchard

12/9/17 10:57pm

KS has to earn praise. Running our beloved football program into the ground

LV Mike

12/9/17 11:17pm

i keep asking...where are the adults?

ds7

12/10/17 5:33pm

I'll have what he's having.

Soy Celeste

12/10/17 6:41am

Sticking your head in the ground are we?

TheLoneCougar

12/10/17 7:39am

Hiring your buds because they're the same culture as you is bad leadership.

ToasterChive

12/10/17 11:08am

I hate it when I get distain

gurt

12/10/17 12:07pm

See what you did!!!

Zaphod

12/10/17 8:36pm

Just end sports already

Y4LYFE

12/9/17 7:31pm

If honor code violations continue to increase, that is a real worry.

Coogar2

12/9/17 7:48pm

Have they really increased?

cajuncoug

12/9/17 8:01pm

If you really think having sex outside marriage isn't a problem you should

Lance71

12/9/17 8:39pm

Thanks for the advice. Quite an interesting conclusion you arrived upon

cajuncoug

12/9/17 9:31pm

My understanding is that the problem isn't the publicity but the frequency of

here's to hoping

12/9/17 10:06pm

If true, it makes more sense

cajuncoug

12/9/17 10:37pm

I guess it depends on what you mean by "cleanly-run." I keep hearing about more

here's to hoping

12/9/17 11:07pm

Religion does not equate to Honor Code

byufam

12/10/17 1:40pm

Yes. Honor Code violations were up and Coach Sitake was soft in response.

Coogar2

12/9/17 10:15pm

How do you know they were up? Genuinely curious

cajuncoug

12/9/17 10:53pm

Didn't you hear about those two kids caught for DUI that were no longer on

BYUFootballisBack

12/10/17 10:40am

The problem was that KS tried to excuse himself rather than help them stop.

Coogar2

12/10/17 11:12am

OK. So neither of you know. Gotcha. Carry on

cajuncoug

12/10/17 11:33am

Mine was TIC I agree with you I don't feel like this year has been any different

BYUFootballisBack

12/11/17 9:21am

Not yet. There's more hard knock lessons that need to be learned....

JerryAtric

12/9/17 11:52pm

Who is willing to learn? Nobody.

ToasterChive

12/10/17 12:26pm

Exactly. It appears kool aid still flows freely down there.

JerryAtric

12/10/17 6:29pm

One thing I don't get about the S&C coach

Seasider

12/9/17 7:59pm

He doesn't actually exist, just a second paycheck for KS.

here's to hoping

12/9/17 10:08pm

lol Thank you. That makes sense.

Coogar2

12/10/17 11:12am

Sounds like a luau with the Hatfields and McCoys

BYU DUDE 1984

12/9/17 8:45pm

Why are people trying to keep selling Ty as a scapegoat? WORST OFFENSE EVER

Graig Swame

12/9/17 8:52pm

Because he had to try to run an offense on a team with no discipline,

Mike Honcho

12/9/17 8:57pm

This!

Borg

12/9/17 9:00pm

He can still demand accountability, but that isn't Ty's strong suit either.

kotacoug

12/9/17 9:11pm

Sure, he can, but with the HC undermining him it won’t be too effective

Mike Honcho

12/9/17 9:15pm

The HC doesn’t undermine the OC, either he gets on page with Ks program or walks

Graig Swame

12/10/17 12:21am

The irony is those who criticize Kalani for allowing a lack of accountability in

chilango

12/9/17 10:53pm

The irony is, KS holding Ty, and only Ty, accountable when the rest of his

Borg

12/9/17 11:06pm

Firing someone isn’t the only way to hold someone accountable. I think many on

chilango

12/10/17 8:37am

BTW, I don’t think “irony” means what you think it means.

chilango

12/10/17 8:39am

Irony-=cutting off your nose despite your face

Borg

12/10/17 9:18am

~~despite~~ *to spite

YardTime

12/10/17 10:26am

I thought it was "in spite of"

SpiffCoug

12/10/17 10:28am

The common idiom in this i instance is cut off one's nose to spite one's face.

YardTime

12/10/17 10:38am

Oops! Ya got me ! 😄

Borg

12/10/17 11:37am

Just tryin' to help a brotha out.

YardTime

12/10/17 9:16pm

There seems to be a correlation with losing.

RealityCheck

12/10/17 4:20am

Name another school in the country that got to its

CougarBuddy

12/9/17 9:03pm

They were the worst offense in the country with the 1st team qb and rb

palangi

12/9/17 10:13pm

^^^^This. The injury excuse is so lame. The O was horrible before the injuries.

chilango

12/10/17 9:10am

The offense was horrible WITH TAYSOM AND JAMAAL. Ty was bad at his job, period.

Dissenter

12/10/17 11:30am

Umm Ula was clearly the 1st string back and

CarolinaCoug

12/10/17 3:33pm

Ty didn’t face 6 Top 30 defenses either. He faced 4 of the top 30 scoring

chilango

12/10/17 4:05pm

It's simple!! To most of us it's obvious that it's not just the offence. It's

blackshirts

12/9/17 9:18pm

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Banjo

12/9/17 8:55pm

Maybe. The point was the team is managed similarly...

CougarBuddy

12/9/17 9:11pm

I found your post interesting, but I agree, I cringed when I read what you

Blue2thebone

12/10/17 12:38am

What if its true though?

CLCougar

12/9/17 9:11pm

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Banjo

12/9/17 9:16pm

Going through a difficult trial shouldn’t make you immune from scrutiny if it is

StantonMac

12/9/17 9:39pm

Comes with the territory when being a college football coach.

mudpupper

12/9/17 9:45pm

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Banjo

12/9/17 10:58pm

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Banjo

12/9/17 10:57pm

That is not deserved.

Blue2thebone

12/10/17 12:40am

None of this surprises me in the least and corroborates some things I’ve heard

Wedgetail

12/9/17 9:01pm

And that is the disturbing thing. Same issues coming from various sources

Coogar2

12/10/17 11:14am

Norhing going to change until the pathetic culture of this poorly managed

blackshirts

12/9/17 9:09pm

This is spot on. I was told by a player about the division. Not surprised at all

Mathew

12/9/17 10:09pm

Same info from various sources, plus the obvious lack of disciplined play

Coogar2

12/10/17 11:21am

this is my worst fear...that we haven't bottom out...yet

ds7

12/10/17 5:37pm

I know. Freaking sucks

Mathew

12/10/17 6:49pm

Your family member sounds like a tool

palangi

12/9/17 10:15pm

Are you Poly by chance? Would understand the pushback if so

CLCougar

12/9/17 10:19pm

I'm not poly. Imo there would be some temporary pushback but losing is worse

palangi

12/9/17 10:25pm

Just curious why you use “palangi” as a board name. So not a poly but familiar w/the culture.

kalifi

12/10/17 9:59am

Absolutely, if hes wrong. But we've heard enough similar rumblings that it makes one wonder...

Hank Rearden

12/9/17 10:19pm

Right or wrong, if people in the athletic admin are spreading this stuff to

palangi

12/9/17 10:53pm

I've heard the part about the huge divide from a variety of different sources.

dilbert

12/9/17 11:08pm

I have a lot of doubt. Sure discipline and team culture(not cultural) need to

palangi

12/9/17 11:27pm

Maybe it's just me, but this kind of gossipy stuff doesn't sit well in my gut...

So it goes...

12/9/17 10:33pm

People who spread this stuff are locker room cancers

palangi

12/9/17 10:55pm

Exactly what I was thinking.

HighHorse

12/10/17 5:50pm

TH should be fired along with KS

Kerbouchard

12/9/17 10:56pm

RE: "team was/is very divided, culturally. The Polynesians act entitled"

jomo

12/9/17 11:06pm

I am not Polynesian, but I do shudder frequently at the discussion about...

cougarBee

12/9/17 11:19pm

Thanks man, this comment is appreciated.

jomo

12/9/17 11:23pm

same.

4mack

12/9/17 11:27pm

I don't know much about polynesian culture. I do have good friends that are a

here's to hoping

12/9/17 11:21pm

RE: a "racial problem that has developed right under Kalani's nose"

jomo

12/9/17 11:30pm

fair points, it could have existed before this year, but I have never heard of a

here's to hoping

12/9/17 11:40pm

The OP is consistent with what I've been hearing from multiple sources all

LV Mike

12/9/17 11:26pm

The op is speaking specifically to poly cultural problem, not team culture

palangi

12/9/17 11:41pm

Racial division is nevertheless a coaching team culture problem.

LV Mike

12/9/17 11:59pm

^^^^ this. Stop whining about the polynesians and assuming their “culture” is

Manutd

12/9/17 11:28pm

LOL. Is there anyone affiliated w/ BYU that you think shouldn’t be fired? Nice

Bostonblue

12/10/17 12:00am

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blackshirts

12/10/17 5:58am

Sure, Lamb, Clark, DB coach, kafusi, waterboy, and COSMO!

blackshirts

12/10/17 6:01am

Db coach? .I'm Fail. Ourbdv's were and have been terrible especially considering

CarolinaCoug

12/10/17 7:14am

I'm contributing that to poor leadership and culture by the HC.

blackshirts

12/10/17 7:25am

Hate posts like this. Maybe a fragment of truth, but a mountain of rumor.

Tygger

12/10/17 12:12am

Cool, when you're willing to post crap about the Mahe family and their hotel

Bluedarts

12/10/17 12:50am

So your "source" confirmed every cougarboard narrative over the past few weeks/

akmewg

12/10/17 1:04am

Such a bush league post

Roko's Basilisk

12/10/17 1:18am

When does Kalani's contract end?

Y05

12/10/17 4:49am

This is an awful post and should be taken down. It’s one thing to spread rumors

mm73

12/10/17 6:45am

Agreed. Mods need to step in here. Maybe too late

youngster

12/10/17 7:48am

Moderation on cb is crazy so I'm glad they didn't delete it. Would rather op

IceCreamButt

12/10/17 8:34pm

Truth hurts

Mathew

12/10/17 9:10pm

This post is an indictment on CB. Can't believe how many

Blue2thebone

12/10/17 9:42am

Sounds like a message board may be too intense for you for whatever reason

BlackBart

12/10/17 9:50am

Yours is a garbage post

Blue2thebone

12/10/17 9:55am

Merry Christmas to you too.

BlackBart

12/10/17 10:28am

What do I want discussed here on CB? Truth. ONLY truth, and have it done in a

BleedCougarBlue2

12/10/17 4:55pm

How was the comment cruel. All team and traveling family was aware.

CougarBuddy

12/10/17 10:18am

Welcome to CB. Many have been ran off or choose not to share anymore

BlackBart

12/10/17 10:31am

Me opening and reading this post:

Circaman12

12/10/17 12:44pm

LOL

Blue2thebone

12/10/17 8:23pm

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Abe Froman

12/10/17 1:21pm

I agree how this post stayed up all day is beyond me

BYU DUDE 1984

12/10/17 5:54pm

Just the absolute worst post. This isn’t inside information it’s

Kama'aina

12/10/17 1:24pm

Truth hurts

Mathew

12/10/17 9:11pm

Taking rumor as truth is idiotic.

Bluedarts

12/10/17 9:31pm

But what if it supports your biases, and what you want to believe?

chilango

12/10/17 9:34pm

Self serving rumors taken as truth on CB? Get out!

Bluedarts

12/10/17 9:45pm

Not. A. Rumor.

Mathew

12/10/17 11:59pm

So put a name to this "truth"

Bluedarts

12/11/17 11:25am

Have no fear, my peeps. This will all be rectified next season.

Archaeovagrant

12/10/17 1:32pm

Still absolute garbage of a post even after your edits.

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