Racial division is nevertheless a coaching team culture problem.

Thanks for sharing, despite the thumbs down from othwrs

BlackBart

12/9/17 6:17pm

You bet...

CougarBuddy

12/9/17 7:50pm

No, KS just needs to organize a midnight jog to Gettysburg where the team can

here's to hoping

12/9/17 9:51pm

Anyone who takes this at face value needs to have their head examined.

bluefish

12/10/17 12:03am

Please share a perspective rather than runoff those sharing what they hear.

BlackBart

12/10/17 4:57am

Agreed. Until names are named, and places, dates, times, etc are given and

BleedCougarBlue2

12/10/17 4:29pm

I think item #1 is the giant Gorilla in the room problem

mudpupper

12/9/17 6:22pm

Hopefully KS can recognize and change things around

1-Wing RCAF

12/9/17 6:47pm

Recognizing the problem and knowing how to fix it are two separate things.

Soy Celeste

12/10/17 6:37am

If he had 20 years coaching experience then maybe yes but no way this turns.

ToasterChive

12/10/17 11:15am

He has 17 years coaching experience, 13 at a P5 or BYU, 9 seasons as an AHC/HC

akmewg

12/10/17 12:00pm

I fear we are seeing the Peter Principle in action. Hope not!

Soy Celeste

12/10/17 1:25pm

That divide is evident on the sidelines. Real problem.

Coogar2

12/9/17 7:49pm

A poly problem? Such an ignorant comment.

Cougar4life123

12/9/17 11:21pm

You're contradicting yourself.

Shore10

12/10/17 10:50am

Thank you for your update!!

Idacoug2

12/9/17 6:44pm

Matt Richardson needs to be fired and held more accountable for the culture and problems.

CLCougar

12/9/17 6:56pm

And Tom H. To first he needs to go!

kahuna

12/9/17 7:05pm

And who is Matt Richardson?

Hank Rearden

12/9/17 7:08pm

Advancement VP at BYU

mudpupper

12/9/17 7:12pm

Here’s his bio

Saxa

12/9/17 7:13pm

how in the world is he qualified to oversee athletics at BYU? utterly ridiculous

mindzeYe

12/10/17 1:09am

Yikes. 99% of CB's resume would be more qualifying. BYU is truly not a serious

Ash

12/10/17 1:13am

He clearly isn't, but thought it would be fun, and could travel to all

CLCougar

12/10/17 12:50pm

He's a religion teacher, not even a professor of divinity. Yikes.

Archaea

12/10/17 5:07pm

Before reading, I suspected there would be some administrative or business exper

cajuncoug

12/11/17 7:07am

I am at the point where I don't believe 95% of what I hear on CB

HighHorse

12/10/17 6:30pm

Make that over 99%

HighHorse

12/10/17 6:51pm

If a fraction of the rumors/stories/accounts are true, the football office

mudpupper

12/9/17 7:21pm

STOP Posting

DCCougFan

12/9/17 7:31pm

STOP posting positive remarks

mudpupper

12/9/17 7:44pm

When Kalani rags on players and coaches, he is applauded for telling the truth

Coogar2

12/9/17 7:47pm

If true, fire TH, fire KS now.

SoValleyCOUG

12/9/17 8:06pm

Sorry sis Sitake

maxpowers

12/9/17 8:08pm

Ok you can stay in lala land, just stick your head in the sand and ignore the

kotacoug

12/9/17 8:45pm

No one is making you read these posts.

TrueBlue67

12/9/17 9:24pm

Ok, Baghdad Bob!

Kerbouchard

12/9/17 10:57pm

KS has to earn praise. Running our beloved football program into the ground

LV Mike

12/9/17 11:17pm

i keep asking...where are the adults?

ds7

12/10/17 5:33pm

I'll have what he's having.

Soy Celeste

12/10/17 6:41am

Sticking your head in the ground are we?

TheLoneCougar

12/10/17 7:39am

Hiring your buds because they're the same culture as you is bad leadership.

ToasterChive

12/10/17 11:08am

I hate it when I get distain

gurt

12/10/17 12:07pm

See what you did!!!

Zaphod

12/10/17 8:36pm

Just end sports already

Y4LYFE

12/9/17 7:31pm

If honor code violations continue to increase, that is a real worry.

Coogar2

12/9/17 7:48pm

Have they really increased?

cajuncoug

12/9/17 8:01pm

If you really think having sex outside marriage isn't a problem you should

Lance71

12/9/17 8:39pm

Thanks for the advice. Quite an interesting conclusion you arrived upon

cajuncoug

12/9/17 9:31pm

My understanding is that the problem isn't the publicity but the frequency of

here's to hoping

12/9/17 10:06pm

If true, it makes more sense

cajuncoug

12/9/17 10:37pm

I guess it depends on what you mean by "cleanly-run." I keep hearing about more

here's to hoping

12/9/17 11:07pm

Religion does not equate to Honor Code

byufam

12/10/17 1:40pm

Yes. Honor Code violations were up and Coach Sitake was soft in response.

Coogar2

12/9/17 10:15pm

How do you know they were up? Genuinely curious

cajuncoug

12/9/17 10:53pm

Didn't you hear about those two kids caught for DUI that were no longer on

BYUFootballisBack

12/10/17 10:40am

The problem was that KS tried to excuse himself rather than help them stop.

Coogar2

12/10/17 11:12am

OK. So neither of you know. Gotcha. Carry on

cajuncoug

12/10/17 11:33am

Mine was TIC I agree with you I don't feel like this year has been any different

BYUFootballisBack

12/11/17 9:21am

Not yet. There's more hard knock lessons that need to be learned....

JerryAtric

12/9/17 11:52pm

Who is willing to learn? Nobody.

ToasterChive

12/10/17 12:26pm

Exactly. It appears kool aid still flows freely down there.

JerryAtric

12/10/17 6:29pm

One thing I don't get about the S&C coach

Seasider

12/9/17 7:59pm

He doesn't actually exist, just a second paycheck for KS.

here's to hoping

12/9/17 10:08pm

lol Thank you. That makes sense.

Coogar2

12/10/17 11:12am

Sounds like a luau with the Hatfields and McCoys

BYU DUDE 1984

12/9/17 8:45pm

Why are people trying to keep selling Ty as a scapegoat? WORST OFFENSE EVER

Graig Swame

12/9/17 8:52pm

Because he had to try to run an offense on a team with no discipline,

Mike Honcho

12/9/17 8:57pm

This!

Borg

12/9/17 9:00pm

He can still demand accountability, but that isn't Ty's strong suit either.

kotacoug

12/9/17 9:11pm

Sure, he can, but with the HC undermining him it won’t be too effective

Mike Honcho

12/9/17 9:15pm

The HC doesn’t undermine the OC, either he gets on page with Ks program or walks

Graig Swame

12/10/17 12:21am

The irony is those who criticize Kalani for allowing a lack of accountability in

chilango

12/9/17 10:53pm

The irony is, KS holding Ty, and only Ty, accountable when the rest of his

Borg

12/9/17 11:06pm

Firing someone isn’t the only way to hold someone accountable. I think many on

chilango

12/10/17 8:37am

BTW, I don’t think “irony” means what you think it means.

chilango

12/10/17 8:39am

Irony-=cutting off your nose despite your face

Borg

12/10/17 9:18am

~~despite~~ *to spite

YardTime

12/10/17 10:26am

I thought it was "in spite of"

SpiffCoug

12/10/17 10:28am

The common idiom in this i instance is cut off one's nose to spite one's face.

YardTime

12/10/17 10:38am

Oops! Ya got me ! 😄

Borg

12/10/17 11:37am

Just tryin' to help a brotha out.

YardTime

12/10/17 9:16pm

There seems to be a correlation with losing.

RealityCheck

12/10/17 4:20am

Name another school in the country that got to its

CougarBuddy

12/9/17 9:03pm

They were the worst offense in the country with the 1st team qb and rb

palangi

12/9/17 10:13pm

^^^^This. The injury excuse is so lame. The O was horrible before the injuries.

chilango

12/10/17 9:10am

The offense was horrible WITH TAYSOM AND JAMAAL. Ty was bad at his job, period.

Dissenter

12/10/17 11:30am

Umm Ula was clearly the 1st string back and

CarolinaCoug

12/10/17 3:33pm

Ty didn’t face 6 Top 30 defenses either. He faced 4 of the top 30 scoring

chilango

12/10/17 4:05pm

It's simple!! To most of us it's obvious that it's not just the offence. It's

blackshirts

12/9/17 9:18pm

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Banjo

12/9/17 8:55pm

Maybe. The point was the team is managed similarly...

CougarBuddy

12/9/17 9:11pm

I found your post interesting, but I agree, I cringed when I read what you

Blue2thebone

12/10/17 12:38am

What if its true though?

CLCougar

12/9/17 9:11pm

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Banjo

12/9/17 9:16pm

Going through a difficult trial shouldn’t make you immune from scrutiny if it is

StantonMac

12/9/17 9:39pm

Comes with the territory when being a college football coach.

mudpupper

12/9/17 9:45pm

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Banjo

12/9/17 10:58pm

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Banjo

12/9/17 10:57pm

That is not deserved.

Blue2thebone

12/10/17 12:40am

None of this surprises me in the least and corroborates some things I’ve heard

Wedgetail

12/9/17 9:01pm

And that is the disturbing thing. Same issues coming from various sources

Coogar2

12/10/17 11:14am

Norhing going to change until the pathetic culture of this poorly managed

blackshirts

12/9/17 9:09pm

This is spot on. I was told by a player about the division. Not surprised at all

Mathew

12/9/17 10:09pm

Same info from various sources, plus the obvious lack of disciplined play

Coogar2

12/10/17 11:21am

this is my worst fear...that we haven't bottom out...yet

ds7

12/10/17 5:37pm

I know. Freaking sucks

Mathew

12/10/17 6:49pm

Your family member sounds like a tool

palangi

12/9/17 10:15pm

Are you Poly by chance? Would understand the pushback if so

CLCougar

12/9/17 10:19pm

I'm not poly. Imo there would be some temporary pushback but losing is worse

palangi

12/9/17 10:25pm

Just curious why you use “palangi” as a board name. So not a poly but familiar w/the culture.

kalifi

12/10/17 9:59am

Absolutely, if hes wrong. But we've heard enough similar rumblings that it makes one wonder...

Hank Rearden

12/9/17 10:19pm

Right or wrong, if people in the athletic admin are spreading this stuff to

palangi

12/9/17 10:53pm

I've heard the part about the huge divide from a variety of different sources.

dilbert

12/9/17 11:08pm

I have a lot of doubt. Sure discipline and team culture(not cultural) need to

palangi

12/9/17 11:27pm

Maybe it's just me, but this kind of gossipy stuff doesn't sit well in my gut...

So it goes...

12/9/17 10:33pm

People who spread this stuff are locker room cancers

palangi

12/9/17 10:55pm

Exactly what I was thinking.

HighHorse

12/10/17 5:50pm

TH should be fired along with KS

Kerbouchard

12/9/17 10:56pm

RE: "team was/is very divided, culturally. The Polynesians act entitled"

jomo

12/9/17 11:06pm

I am not Polynesian, but I do shudder frequently at the discussion about...

cougarBee

12/9/17 11:19pm

Thanks man, this comment is appreciated.

jomo

12/9/17 11:23pm

same.

4mack

12/9/17 11:27pm

I don't know much about polynesian culture. I do have good friends that are a

here's to hoping

12/9/17 11:21pm

RE: a "racial problem that has developed right under Kalani's nose"

jomo

12/9/17 11:30pm

fair points, it could have existed before this year, but I have never heard of a

here's to hoping

12/9/17 11:40pm

The OP is consistent with what I've been hearing from multiple sources all

LV Mike

12/9/17 11:26pm

The op is speaking specifically to poly cultural problem, not team culture

palangi

12/9/17 11:41pm

Racial division is nevertheless a coaching team culture problem.

LV Mike

12/9/17 11:59pm

^^^^ this. Stop whining about the polynesians and assuming their “culture” is

Manutd

12/9/17 11:28pm

LOL. Is there anyone affiliated w/ BYU that you think shouldn’t be fired? Nice

Bostonblue

12/10/17 12:00am

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blackshirts

12/10/17 5:58am

Sure, Lamb, Clark, DB coach, kafusi, waterboy, and COSMO!

blackshirts

12/10/17 6:01am

Db coach? .I'm Fail. Ourbdv's were and have been terrible especially considering

CarolinaCoug

12/10/17 7:14am

I'm contributing that to poor leadership and culture by the HC.

blackshirts

12/10/17 7:25am

Hate posts like this. Maybe a fragment of truth, but a mountain of rumor.

Tygger

12/10/17 12:12am

Cool, when you're willing to post crap about the Mahe family and their hotel

Bluedarts

12/10/17 12:50am

So your "source" confirmed every cougarboard narrative over the past few weeks/

akmewg

12/10/17 1:04am

Such a bush league post

Roko's Basilisk

12/10/17 1:18am

When does Kalani's contract end?

Y05

12/10/17 4:49am

This is an awful post and should be taken down. It’s one thing to spread rumors

mm73

12/10/17 6:45am

Agreed. Mods need to step in here. Maybe too late

youngster

12/10/17 7:48am

Moderation on cb is crazy so I'm glad they didn't delete it. Would rather op

IceCreamButt

12/10/17 8:34pm

Truth hurts

Mathew

12/10/17 9:10pm

This post is an indictment on CB. Can't believe how many

Blue2thebone

12/10/17 9:42am

Sounds like a message board may be too intense for you for whatever reason

BlackBart

12/10/17 9:50am

Yours is a garbage post

Blue2thebone

12/10/17 9:55am

Merry Christmas to you too.

BlackBart

12/10/17 10:28am

What do I want discussed here on CB? Truth. ONLY truth, and have it done in a

BleedCougarBlue2

12/10/17 4:55pm

How was the comment cruel. All team and traveling family was aware.

CougarBuddy

12/10/17 10:18am

Welcome to CB. Many have been ran off or choose not to share anymore

BlackBart

12/10/17 10:31am

Me opening and reading this post:

Circaman12

12/10/17 12:44pm

LOL

Blue2thebone

12/10/17 8:23pm

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Abe Froman

12/10/17 1:21pm

I agree how this post stayed up all day is beyond me

BYU DUDE 1984

12/10/17 5:54pm

Just the absolute worst post. This isn’t inside information it’s

Kama'aina

12/10/17 1:24pm

Truth hurts

Mathew

12/10/17 9:11pm

Taking rumor as truth is idiotic.

Bluedarts

12/10/17 9:31pm

But what if it supports your biases, and what you want to believe?

chilango

12/10/17 9:34pm

Self serving rumors taken as truth on CB? Get out!

Bluedarts

12/10/17 9:45pm

Not. A. Rumor.

Mathew

12/10/17 11:59pm

So put a name to this "truth"

Bluedarts

12/11/17 11:25am

Have no fear, my peeps. This will all be rectified next season.

Archaeovagrant

12/10/17 1:32pm

Still absolute garbage of a post even after your edits.

Downtown

12/10/17 6:25pm

Posting on CougarBoard