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I love teachers, my only issue about complaining about pay is that they knew or
Thrill
4/26/18 12:14pm
Doesn't everybody want to get paid more though. It's just a natural human
rcbyufan
4/26/18 12:16pm
Yes, but few want to work harder or become better to earn it.
Plato
4/26/18 12:18pm
We're still talking about everybody here, right? Not just teachers?
rcbyufan
4/26/18 12:23pm
Yes.
Plato
4/26/18 12:52pm
This is why every position I have had since graduating college has been majority commission based.
JohnnyComeLately
4/26/18 12:35pm
I agree with this. I wanted to be a teacher, but there was no way I was going
CougarBacker
4/26/18 12:18pm
If husband and wife teach in a decent paying state it is a great
Baron
4/26/18 12:21pm
My dad was a teacher and coach who left for a government job because
Thrill
4/26/18 12:22pm
Do you have a problem with non-teachers arguing that we should pay teachers more
Extra Biscuits
4/26/18 12:21pm
Not at all. There is so much wasted spending at the state level that could
Thrill
4/26/18 12:29pm
I’m with you on that; more money should naturally be accompanied with more
Extra Biscuits
4/26/18 1:27pm
The argument fails. But I don't mind folks making the argument.
Plato
4/26/18 12:55pm
My argument about “getting more by spending more” fails?
Extra Biscuits
4/26/18 1:01pm
At some point, you don't get better quality for higher pay. At McDonalds
Plato
4/26/18 1:07pm
So education has a measurable and replicable ceiling that is akin to a burger or
Extra Biscuits
4/26/18 1:09pm
That's an even worse argument.
Plato
4/26/18 1:19pm
By all means, explain...
Extra Biscuits
4/26/18 1:27pm
Also, burger flipping and oil changing are examples of procedural knowledge
Extra Biscuits
4/26/18 1:50pm
I'm sure you know, but your wife is simply smarter than you. It doesn't have
Plato
4/26/18 2:05pm
I completely agree that much of the content could be taught online, but
Extra Biscuits
4/27/18 4:18pm
That's probably true, but we're not even close to getting to that point with
SWP
4/27/18 11:48am
Yeah, but when one signs up for it they usually don’t plan on pay freezes and
Cashmeousside
4/26/18 12:25pm
In most cases their rate of pay has not increased with other professions
Josef K
4/26/18 12:25pm
Were they supposed to expect no raises for 7 years?
Blue Cat
4/26/18 12:26pm
If I got 2.5 months off in the summer I’d agree
tebowned
4/26/18 12:27pm
Characterizing them as whiners kind of distracts from the issue, don't you think?
buffgato
4/26/18 12:30pm
My wife works in a school and is very familiar with the issues. Like her
Thrill
4/26/18 12:44pm
Speaking of distracting from the issue...
buffgato
4/26/18 1:03pm
RE: Speaking of distracting from the issue...
Thrill
4/26/18 1:17pm
Market value. If people valued education they wouldn't be sending there kids to overcrowded
777
4/26/18 12:31pm
Education is the only industry
2FarGone
4/26/18 12:44pm
*their
The Old Y
4/26/18 12:45pm
RE: *their
777
4/26/18 12:48pm
I thought private school teachers made less than public school teachers
Pasadena
4/26/18 1:17pm
I'm sure there are private schools who pay less. What I'm saying is go find one that pays more.
777
4/26/18 1:32pm
Yeah I agree, the conservatives viewpoint on this is weird. Seems like the
Pasadena
4/26/18 1:44pm
It is really weird. My thoughts on this are because the church doesn't have it's own schools,
777
4/26/18 5:16pm
Of course, the problem in Arizona is they were promised raises and never given
runnincoug
4/26/18 12:53pm
In Arizona they raised the minimum wage last year, with more raises scheduled
BigTex
4/26/18 1:00pm
The other direct result to school districts is that their classified staff
couldge
4/27/18 12:59pm
You're right, the solution is no one should become a teacher. *eyeroll*
cougarsnooty
4/26/18 1:02pm
One of the problems with this arguement is that as a kid starting out in
Nagurski
4/26/18 1:02pm
Wait, I don't know a more vocal group of pay complainers than law firm
Pasadena
4/26/18 1:05pm
I think potential teachers also overestimate how much satisfaction they will get
Capricious Cougar
4/26/18 1:08pm
Your first issue about salary is a personal issue that you need to get over and
Baron
4/26/18 1:12pm
Thanks for the feedback?
Capricious Cougar
4/26/18 1:25pm
Don't let salary determine your self worth it is as simple as that. Because at
Baron
4/26/18 1:48pm
While true, this attitude is why female professions have been paid less
runnincoug
4/26/18 1:58pm
Okay. Well she is going to feel like crap until she makes $1200 per hour then.
Baron
4/26/18 2:03pm
A number that has a big impact on your quality of life. 🙂 But I understand what
Capricious Cougar
4/26/18 1:59pm
You aren't alone, Capricious. Research shows the two reasons teachers leave
runnincoug
4/26/18 1:54pm
Somewhat related:
crazY
4/26/18 5:14pm
my wife is a teacher, she puts in many extra hours and has to handle parents
franklyvulgar
4/26/18 1:28pm
And the teachers themselves make as much as graduate student teaching assistants
runnincoug
4/26/18 1:31pm
yup but those summer months.... lol
franklyvulgar
4/26/18 1:32pm
Thanks for this post
All-American Coug
4/27/18 10:54am
I completely disagree. If you have a job you love, that is important to society,
O Gaucho
4/26/18 1:54pm
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