were entrepreneurs and had crazy ideas and wouldn't let anybody tell them no. I never intervene when somebody close to me has an idea for a business even if I think it's horrible idea. It could still hit. The degree path seems much easier to pass a little tough love on though. But yeah, a lot of these people are long gone....live 1,000 miles from parents and stuff.....so good advice is going to fall onto deaf ears....especially when all their friends are probably doing similar things.