The reason why QBs went live in spring is because of what happened with Mangum in fall camp

Jun 22, 2018
7:14:24pm

Indy Coug Loquacious Lummox

and what happened in actual games. He just wasn't remotely the same QB when he was under fire. That's why things sounded so positive in August last year before harsh reality immediately came crashing in beginning with LSU.

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(Link) Kalani gave some insight as to why Tanner struggled so much last season

LifelongAP

6/22/18 7:12pm

The reason why QBs went live in spring is because of what happened with Mangum in fall camp

Indy Coug

6/22/18 7:14pm

It came crashing in beginning with Portland State

YIsForBrigham

6/23/18 1:13am

This is the correct answer. They will force Mangum

Bostonblue

6/23/18 6:35am

Seems then none of our qbs "were remotely the same QB when they were under fire"

viper

6/23/18 8:44am

Its also flat out a rewrite of actual history. Hoge battled

CarolinaCoug

6/23/18 10:58pm

Sounds more like an unprovable excuse

StantonMac

6/22/18 7:15pm

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Run-DMT

6/22/18 7:48pm

Kalani has been such a disappointment for me. I was excited and supported the

Gerald-DeGroot

6/23/18 12:28am

Exactly. Kalani was less than fully supportive of Tanner before Portland St

Coogar2

6/23/18 3:27pm

Combine mental laziness with an overly complex Detmer offense = disaster

mudpupper

6/22/18 7:18pm

Looking back I don't think Detmer even knew what his offense was.

kotacoug

6/22/18 7:20pm

Translated: Kalani didn't push his players and hold them accountable.

LV Mike

6/22/18 7:26pm

He publicly places blame with the best of them!

Fervent Cougar

6/22/18 7:28pm

and accepted and acknowledged it was a mistake - his.

basman

6/22/18 7:52pm

Sure didn’t hear that last year!

Fervent Cougar

6/22/18 7:57pm

So why wasn't he fired? If his mistake cost the O then why did he fire others?

thecthdox

6/22/18 8:10pm

Really? This question is even asked? Being fired isn't the only way to be

SUAVO

6/22/18 8:42pm

That's IT! Fire the coach anytime he makes a mistake. Why didn't we think

deljdc

6/23/18 6:42am

So did you support firing Ty Detmer? KS was quick to blame the O staff and fire

thecthdox

6/23/18 8:45am

I see it the same. Thanks

Coogar2

6/23/18 3:29pm

Apples and oranges. I would not support firing Detmer for one mistake.

deljdc

6/24/18 6:26pm

Just to be clear, KS his one mistake was destroying a culture of accountability

thecthdox

6/24/18 6:32pm

No actually, the initial statement that this whole thread is about is that

deljdc

6/26/18 7:11am

Part of the culture of non-accountability - mere symptom of a much bigger

LV Mike

6/26/18 7:42am

Don’t forget he was krylized

Q-grr

6/22/18 9:12pm

There's truly a group of people on here who will spin anything to fit the grudge

Lip Gallagher

6/22/18 7:49pm

He publicly threw TM under the bus...not hard to spin.

Traveshamockery

6/22/18 8:34pm

He did say that last year. CB just likes to harp on the moments he didn't

SUAVO

6/22/18 8:44pm

Because he did some terrible things last year that are unforgettable.

LV Mike

6/22/18 10:08pm

He absolutely did, but the point of the post is that he took responsibility at

SUAVO

6/23/18 7:20am

Sure, Sitake "took responsibility" after complaining about things like his

LV Mike

6/23/18 8:32am

..and he made steps in the offense to correct that. There’s a lot to prove....

icecougar

6/23/18 2:51pm

Confused. Is this what you meant to say? How is that a

soupie

6/23/18 3:06pm

I think he's saying that a lot of coaches play the blame game

SUAVO

6/23/18 10:57pm

His poor record made him lose fan support way more than his disgraceful

SUAVO

6/23/18 10:54pm

RE: He publicly threw TM under the bus...not hard to spin.

Lip Gallagher

6/22/18 9:43pm

TM has thrown himself under the bus for not being mentally ready to compete...

icecougar

6/23/18 3:00pm

What grudge? Sitake blames publicly. His latest take is simply another

LV Mike

6/22/18 10:06pm

Even after a win, he'd make a snide comment at Ty's expense. Inexcusable.

Division Bell

6/23/18 1:03am

That was most evident after the Hawaii victory . . . saying something like:

LV Mike

6/23/18 8:52am

Someone ,should ask ks. "Hey coach, If you played cover zero D with

CarolinaCoug

6/23/18 11:19pm

We already know you're biased against him.

Lip Gallagher

6/23/18 1:29pm

Agreed. I didn't like the antics either but give the guy room to grow.

GOR

6/23/18 1:31pm

And then there are the never ending apologists who are just fine with Sitake's

LV Mike

6/23/18 1:44pm

What’s wrong with saying guys need to compete for their starting jobs? Bronco...

icecougar

6/23/18 3:10pm

He could have said he has made some changes, learned some things from last

LV Mike

6/23/18 4:52pm

I agree with most of what you said last year about Kalani

GOR

6/23/18 3:22pm

This is absolutely hilarious.

Eddie

6/23/18 1:31pm

It's something Sitake didn't need to say publicly. It's just another shot at TY

LV Mike

6/23/18 1:41pm

You guys are a sensitive bunch.

D.T. Survivor

6/23/18 3:03pm

Yyyyyyeah...don’t see it

icecougar

6/23/18 3:19pm

So - tell us about more conspiracy theories you've got.

Eddie

6/23/18 9:27pm

Blame Tanner now before losing so that you look smart

Coogar2

6/23/18 3:28pm

Was Taysom lazy as well? Because he looked horrid in Ty's offense as well.

mudpupper

6/22/18 7:28pm

This is true. There was something up with the offense

kotacoug

6/22/18 7:29pm

Yeah, I tend to think Ty’s offense was the main problem.

LifelongAP

6/22/18 7:34pm

There was also some visible progress w/ Tanner just before getting injured.

soupie

6/22/18 7:38pm

I tend to think this statement from Kalani is more evidence of the main problem

jdub

6/22/18 8:03pm

Might be true. I don't know enough about the program.

kotacoug

6/22/18 8:05pm

Makes sense

Coogar2

6/23/18 3:30pm

That's because he is Taysom Freaking Hill

Y05

6/23/18 12:56am

No receivers? No prwcticr in it? No blocking?

CarolinaCoug

6/23/18 11:22pm

I believe Ty’s offense was the biggest factor. Taysom was a mediocre QB that

Duke Silver

6/22/18 7:36pm

Gotta love all the revisionist history here in the echo chamber.

CougarThug

6/22/18 7:46pm

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rivercitycoug

6/22/18 7:46pm

I never heard what happened to his arm

D.T. Survivor

6/22/18 8:44pm

Kalani, even if true, please keep that stuff between you and your QB

Run-DMT

6/22/18 7:49pm

RE: Kalani, even if true, please keep that stuff between you and your QB

soupie

6/22/18 7:52pm

I don’t think it’s very disparaging. Better than a made up excuse.

D.T. Survivor

6/22/18 8:46pm

I don’t feel he was being disparaging towards Tanner

LifelongAP

6/22/18 9:24pm

That’s one theory.

jkccoug

6/22/18 7:52pm

So he basically just said his starting QB was unmotivated, lacked work ethic

Run-DMT

6/22/18 8:01pm

And yet Kalani still made him his starter?

2FarGone

6/22/18 8:03pm

I agree

cougarmanguy

6/22/18 8:20pm

Tanner said the same thing about himself after 2016 fall camp...

icecougar

6/23/18 3:31pm

Agreed. Lame excuse by Kalani

Coogar2

6/23/18 5:56pm

SLIGHTof hand..mis direction by ks. And completely

CarolinaCoug

6/23/18 11:10pm

I am no longer in Utah to know these things but according to CB

pappabear246

6/22/18 8:23pm

Yes, they’ve tightened up already but some people still want to complain about..

icecougar

6/23/18 3:33pm

I am excited to see how things have changed.

pappabear246

6/24/18 11:57am

Did Kalani take ownership for that decision? He dictated to Ty that Tanner would

unctoothman

6/22/18 8:42pm

Kalani needs to understand you can't treat QBs like you do other positions

Seasider

6/22/18 10:01pm

This reminds me of the Crowtonera

BYU-Laie

6/22/18 11:14pm

I don't think kalani had a great first season. That team underperformed

thebruce

6/23/18 9:09am

It was a pretty good season for his debut.

eddog

6/23/18 11:35am

It would’ve been different if Taysom were 100% healthy...

icecougar

6/23/18 3:57pm

That would have helped but the offense was garbage

thebruce

6/23/18 4:06pm

I agree. Kalani under performed with the talent he had in both years

Coogar2

6/23/18 5:54pm

Lol. We are such a mess of a program.

Gerald-DeGroot

6/22/18 10:07pm

So if he struggles this fall I'll know why

Y4LYFE

6/23/18 12:13am

Ridiculous. If that were the case he shouldn’t even be considered to start this year.

Refugee

6/23/18 12:58am

Don't buy it. That is not what we heard.

coolblue

6/23/18 10:43am

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