Yeah, I tend to think Ty’s offense was the main problem.

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Jun 22, 2018
7:34:18pm

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If Tanner was just lazy, then why did Taysom struggle so much? No one has ever accused him of being complacent.

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LifelongAP

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(Link) Kalani gave some insight as to why Tanner struggled so much last season

LifelongAP

6/22/18 7:12pm

The reason why QBs went live in spring is because of what happened with Mangum in fall camp

Indy Coug

6/22/18 7:14pm

It came crashing in beginning with Portland State

YIsForBrigham

6/23/18 1:13am

This is the correct answer. They will force Mangum

Bostonblue

6/23/18 6:35am

Seems then none of our qbs "were remotely the same QB when they were under fire"

viper

6/23/18 8:44am

Its also flat out a rewrite of actual history. Hoge battled

CarolinaCoug

6/23/18 10:58pm

Sounds more like an unprovable excuse

StantonMac

6/22/18 7:15pm

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Run-DMT

6/22/18 7:48pm

Kalani has been such a disappointment for me. I was excited and supported the

Gerald-DeGroot

6/23/18 12:28am

Exactly. Kalani was less than fully supportive of Tanner before Portland St

Coogar2

6/23/18 3:27pm

Combine mental laziness with an overly complex Detmer offense = disaster

mudpupper

6/22/18 7:18pm

Looking back I don't think Detmer even knew what his offense was.

kotacoug

6/22/18 7:20pm

Translated: Kalani didn't push his players and hold them accountable.

LV Mike

6/22/18 7:26pm

He publicly places blame with the best of them!

Fervent Cougar

6/22/18 7:28pm

and accepted and acknowledged it was a mistake - his.

basman

6/22/18 7:52pm

Sure didn’t hear that last year!

Fervent Cougar

6/22/18 7:57pm

So why wasn't he fired? If his mistake cost the O then why did he fire others?

thecthdox

6/22/18 8:10pm

Really? This question is even asked? Being fired isn't the only way to be

SUAVO

6/22/18 8:42pm

That's IT! Fire the coach anytime he makes a mistake. Why didn't we think

deljdc

6/23/18 6:42am

So did you support firing Ty Detmer? KS was quick to blame the O staff and fire

thecthdox

6/23/18 8:45am

I see it the same. Thanks

Coogar2

6/23/18 3:29pm

Apples and oranges. I would not support firing Detmer for one mistake.

deljdc

6/24/18 6:26pm

Just to be clear, KS his one mistake was destroying a culture of accountability

thecthdox

6/24/18 6:32pm

No actually, the initial statement that this whole thread is about is that

deljdc

6/26/18 7:11am

Part of the culture of non-accountability - mere symptom of a much bigger

LV Mike

6/26/18 7:42am

Don’t forget he was krylized

Q-grr

6/22/18 9:12pm

There's truly a group of people on here who will spin anything to fit the grudge

Lip Gallagher

6/22/18 7:49pm

He publicly threw TM under the bus...not hard to spin.

Traveshamockery

6/22/18 8:34pm

He did say that last year. CB just likes to harp on the moments he didn't

SUAVO

6/22/18 8:44pm

Because he did some terrible things last year that are unforgettable.

LV Mike

6/22/18 10:08pm

He absolutely did, but the point of the post is that he took responsibility at

SUAVO

6/23/18 7:20am

Sure, Sitake "took responsibility" after complaining about things like his

LV Mike

6/23/18 8:32am

..and he made steps in the offense to correct that. There’s a lot to prove....

icecougar

6/23/18 2:51pm

Confused. Is this what you meant to say? How is that a

soupie

6/23/18 3:06pm

I think he's saying that a lot of coaches play the blame game

SUAVO

6/23/18 10:57pm

His poor record made him lose fan support way more than his disgraceful

SUAVO

6/23/18 10:54pm

RE: He publicly threw TM under the bus...not hard to spin.

Lip Gallagher

6/22/18 9:43pm

TM has thrown himself under the bus for not being mentally ready to compete...

icecougar

6/23/18 3:00pm

What grudge? Sitake blames publicly. His latest take is simply another

LV Mike

6/22/18 10:06pm

Even after a win, he'd make a snide comment at Ty's expense. Inexcusable.

Division Bell

6/23/18 1:03am

That was most evident after the Hawaii victory . . . saying something like:

LV Mike

6/23/18 8:52am

Someone ,should ask ks. "Hey coach, If you played cover zero D with

CarolinaCoug

6/23/18 11:19pm

We already know you're biased against him.

Lip Gallagher

6/23/18 1:29pm

Agreed. I didn't like the antics either but give the guy room to grow.

GOR

6/23/18 1:31pm

And then there are the never ending apologists who are just fine with Sitake's

LV Mike

6/23/18 1:44pm

What’s wrong with saying guys need to compete for their starting jobs? Bronco...

icecougar

6/23/18 3:10pm

He could have said he has made some changes, learned some things from last

LV Mike

6/23/18 4:52pm

I agree with most of what you said last year about Kalani

GOR

6/23/18 3:22pm

This is absolutely hilarious.

Eddie

6/23/18 1:31pm

It's something Sitake didn't need to say publicly. It's just another shot at TY

LV Mike

6/23/18 1:41pm

You guys are a sensitive bunch.

D.T. Survivor

6/23/18 3:03pm

Yyyyyyeah...don’t see it

icecougar

6/23/18 3:19pm

So - tell us about more conspiracy theories you've got.

Eddie

6/23/18 9:27pm

Blame Tanner now before losing so that you look smart

Coogar2

6/23/18 3:28pm

Was Taysom lazy as well? Because he looked horrid in Ty's offense as well.

mudpupper

6/22/18 7:28pm

This is true. There was something up with the offense

kotacoug

6/22/18 7:29pm

Yeah, I tend to think Ty’s offense was the main problem.

LifelongAP

6/22/18 7:34pm

There was also some visible progress w/ Tanner just before getting injured.

soupie

6/22/18 7:38pm

I tend to think this statement from Kalani is more evidence of the main problem

jdub

6/22/18 8:03pm

Might be true. I don't know enough about the program.

kotacoug

6/22/18 8:05pm

Makes sense

Coogar2

6/23/18 3:30pm

That's because he is Taysom Freaking Hill

Y05

6/23/18 12:56am

No receivers? No prwcticr in it? No blocking?

CarolinaCoug

6/23/18 11:22pm

I believe Ty’s offense was the biggest factor. Taysom was a mediocre QB that

Duke Silver

6/22/18 7:36pm

Gotta love all the revisionist history here in the echo chamber.

CougarThug

6/22/18 7:46pm

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rivercitycoug

6/22/18 7:46pm

I never heard what happened to his arm

D.T. Survivor

6/22/18 8:44pm

Kalani, even if true, please keep that stuff between you and your QB

Run-DMT

6/22/18 7:49pm

RE: Kalani, even if true, please keep that stuff between you and your QB

soupie

6/22/18 7:52pm

I don’t think it’s very disparaging. Better than a made up excuse.

D.T. Survivor

6/22/18 8:46pm

I don’t feel he was being disparaging towards Tanner

LifelongAP

6/22/18 9:24pm

That’s one theory.

jkccoug

6/22/18 7:52pm

So he basically just said his starting QB was unmotivated, lacked work ethic

Run-DMT

6/22/18 8:01pm

And yet Kalani still made him his starter?

2FarGone

6/22/18 8:03pm

I agree

cougarmanguy

6/22/18 8:20pm

Tanner said the same thing about himself after 2016 fall camp...

icecougar

6/23/18 3:31pm

Agreed. Lame excuse by Kalani

Coogar2

6/23/18 5:56pm

SLIGHTof hand..mis direction by ks. And completely

CarolinaCoug

6/23/18 11:10pm

I am no longer in Utah to know these things but according to CB

pappabear246

6/22/18 8:23pm

Yes, they’ve tightened up already but some people still want to complain about..

icecougar

6/23/18 3:33pm

I am excited to see how things have changed.

pappabear246

6/24/18 11:57am

Did Kalani take ownership for that decision? He dictated to Ty that Tanner would

unctoothman

6/22/18 8:42pm

Kalani needs to understand you can't treat QBs like you do other positions

Seasider

6/22/18 10:01pm

This reminds me of the Crowtonera

BYU-Laie

6/22/18 11:14pm

I don't think kalani had a great first season. That team underperformed

thebruce

6/23/18 9:09am

It was a pretty good season for his debut.

eddog

6/23/18 11:35am

It would’ve been different if Taysom were 100% healthy...

icecougar

6/23/18 3:57pm

That would have helped but the offense was garbage

thebruce

6/23/18 4:06pm

I agree. Kalani under performed with the talent he had in both years

Coogar2

6/23/18 5:54pm

Lol. We are such a mess of a program.

Gerald-DeGroot

6/22/18 10:07pm

So if he struggles this fall I'll know why

Y4LYFE

6/23/18 12:13am

Ridiculous. If that were the case he shouldn’t even be considered to start this year.

Refugee

6/23/18 12:58am

Don't buy it. That is not what we heard.

coolblue

6/23/18 10:43am

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