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Jun 23, 2018
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thebruce
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That would have helped but the offense was garbage
For a lot of the season. Guys running the wrong routes, taysom making bad throws, etc.
The only saving grace was that Jamaal was a beast.
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(Link) Kalani gave some insight as to why Tanner struggled so much last season
LifelongAP
6/22/18 7:12pm
The reason why QBs went live in spring is because of what happened with Mangum in fall camp
Indy Coug
6/22/18 7:14pm
It came crashing in beginning with Portland State
YIsForBrigham
6/23/18 1:13am
This is the correct answer. They will force Mangum
Bostonblue
6/23/18 6:35am
Seems then none of our qbs "were remotely the same QB when they were under fire"
viper
6/23/18 8:44am
Its also flat out a rewrite of actual history. Hoge battled
CarolinaCoug
6/23/18 10:58pm
Sounds more like an unprovable excuse
StantonMac
6/22/18 7:15pm
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Run-DMT
6/22/18 7:48pm
Kalani has been such a disappointment for me. I was excited and supported the
Gerald-DeGroot
6/23/18 12:28am
Exactly. Kalani was less than fully supportive of Tanner before Portland St
Coogar2
6/23/18 3:27pm
Combine mental laziness with an overly complex Detmer offense = disaster
mudpupper
6/22/18 7:18pm
Looking back I don't think Detmer even knew what his offense was.
kotacoug
6/22/18 7:20pm
Translated: Kalani didn't push his players and hold them accountable.
LV Mike
6/22/18 7:26pm
He publicly places blame with the best of them!
Fervent Cougar
6/22/18 7:28pm
and accepted and acknowledged it was a mistake - his.
basman
6/22/18 7:52pm
Sure didn’t hear that last year!
Fervent Cougar
6/22/18 7:57pm
So why wasn't he fired? If his mistake cost the O then why did he fire others?
thecthdox
6/22/18 8:10pm
Really? This question is even asked? Being fired isn't the only way to be
SUAVO
6/22/18 8:42pm
That's IT! Fire the coach anytime he makes a mistake. Why didn't we think
deljdc
6/23/18 6:42am
So did you support firing Ty Detmer? KS was quick to blame the O staff and fire
thecthdox
6/23/18 8:45am
I see it the same. Thanks
Coogar2
6/23/18 3:29pm
Apples and oranges. I would not support firing Detmer for one mistake.
deljdc
6/24/18 6:26pm
Just to be clear, KS his one mistake was destroying a culture of accountability
thecthdox
6/24/18 6:32pm
No actually, the initial statement that this whole thread is about is that
deljdc
6/26/18 7:11am
Part of the culture of non-accountability - mere symptom of a much bigger
LV Mike
6/26/18 7:42am
Don’t forget he was krylized
Q-grr
6/22/18 9:12pm
There's truly a group of people on here who will spin anything to fit the grudge
Lip Gallagher
6/22/18 7:49pm
He publicly threw TM under the bus...not hard to spin.
Traveshamockery
6/22/18 8:34pm
He did say that last year. CB just likes to harp on the moments he didn't
SUAVO
6/22/18 8:44pm
Because he did some terrible things last year that are unforgettable.
LV Mike
6/22/18 10:08pm
He absolutely did, but the point of the post is that he took responsibility at
SUAVO
6/23/18 7:20am
Sure, Sitake "took responsibility" after complaining about things like his
LV Mike
6/23/18 8:32am
..and he made steps in the offense to correct that. There’s a lot to prove....
icecougar
6/23/18 2:51pm
Confused. Is this what you meant to say? How is that a
soupie
6/23/18 3:06pm
I think he's saying that a lot of coaches play the blame game
SUAVO
6/23/18 10:57pm
His poor record made him lose fan support way more than his disgraceful
SUAVO
6/23/18 10:54pm
RE: He publicly threw TM under the bus...not hard to spin.
Lip Gallagher
6/22/18 9:43pm
TM has thrown himself under the bus for not being mentally ready to compete...
icecougar
6/23/18 3:00pm
What grudge? Sitake blames publicly. His latest take is simply another
LV Mike
6/22/18 10:06pm
Even after a win, he'd make a snide comment at Ty's expense. Inexcusable.
Division Bell
6/23/18 1:03am
That was most evident after the Hawaii victory . . . saying something like:
LV Mike
6/23/18 8:52am
Someone ,should ask ks. "Hey coach, If you played cover zero D with
CarolinaCoug
6/23/18 11:19pm
We already know you're biased against him.
Lip Gallagher
6/23/18 1:29pm
Agreed. I didn't like the antics either but give the guy room to grow.
GOR
6/23/18 1:31pm
And then there are the never ending apologists who are just fine with Sitake's
LV Mike
6/23/18 1:44pm
What’s wrong with saying guys need to compete for their starting jobs? Bronco...
icecougar
6/23/18 3:10pm
He could have said he has made some changes, learned some things from last
LV Mike
6/23/18 4:52pm
I agree with most of what you said last year about Kalani
GOR
6/23/18 3:22pm
This is absolutely hilarious.
Eddie
6/23/18 1:31pm
It's something Sitake didn't need to say publicly. It's just another shot at TY
LV Mike
6/23/18 1:41pm
You guys are a sensitive bunch.
D.T. Survivor
6/23/18 3:03pm
Yyyyyyeah...don’t see it
icecougar
6/23/18 3:19pm
So - tell us about more conspiracy theories you've got.
Eddie
6/23/18 9:27pm
Blame Tanner now before losing so that you look smart
Coogar2
6/23/18 3:28pm
Was Taysom lazy as well? Because he looked horrid in Ty's offense as well.
mudpupper
6/22/18 7:28pm
This is true. There was something up with the offense
kotacoug
6/22/18 7:29pm
Yeah, I tend to think Ty’s offense was the main problem.
LifelongAP
6/22/18 7:34pm
There was also some visible progress w/ Tanner just before getting injured.
soupie
6/22/18 7:38pm
I tend to think this statement from Kalani is more evidence of the main problem
jdub
6/22/18 8:03pm
Might be true. I don't know enough about the program.
kotacoug
6/22/18 8:05pm
Makes sense
Coogar2
6/23/18 3:30pm
That's because he is Taysom Freaking Hill
Y05
6/23/18 12:56am
No receivers? No prwcticr in it? No blocking?
CarolinaCoug
6/23/18 11:22pm
I believe Ty’s offense was the biggest factor. Taysom was a mediocre QB that
Duke Silver
6/22/18 7:36pm
Gotta love all the revisionist history here in the echo chamber.
CougarThug
6/22/18 7:46pm
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rivercitycoug
6/22/18 7:46pm
I never heard what happened to his arm
D.T. Survivor
6/22/18 8:44pm
Kalani, even if true, please keep that stuff between you and your QB
Run-DMT
6/22/18 7:49pm
RE: Kalani, even if true, please keep that stuff between you and your QB
soupie
6/22/18 7:52pm
I don’t think it’s very disparaging. Better than a made up excuse.
D.T. Survivor
6/22/18 8:46pm
I don’t feel he was being disparaging towards Tanner
LifelongAP
6/22/18 9:24pm
That’s one theory.
jkccoug
6/22/18 7:52pm
So he basically just said his starting QB was unmotivated, lacked work ethic
Run-DMT
6/22/18 8:01pm
And yet Kalani still made him his starter?
2FarGone
6/22/18 8:03pm
I agree
cougarmanguy
6/22/18 8:20pm
Tanner said the same thing about himself after 2016 fall camp...
icecougar
6/23/18 3:31pm
Agreed. Lame excuse by Kalani
Coogar2
6/23/18 5:56pm
SLIGHTof hand..mis direction by ks. And completely
CarolinaCoug
6/23/18 11:10pm
I am no longer in Utah to know these things but according to CB
pappabear246
6/22/18 8:23pm
Yes, they’ve tightened up already but some people still want to complain about..
icecougar
6/23/18 3:33pm
I am excited to see how things have changed.
pappabear246
6/24/18 11:57am
Did Kalani take ownership for that decision? He dictated to Ty that Tanner would
unctoothman
6/22/18 8:42pm
Kalani needs to understand you can't treat QBs like you do other positions
Seasider
6/22/18 10:01pm
This reminds me of the Crowtonera
BYU-Laie
6/22/18 11:14pm
I don't think kalani had a great first season. That team underperformed
thebruce
6/23/18 9:09am
It was a pretty good season for his debut.
eddog
6/23/18 11:35am
It would’ve been different if Taysom were 100% healthy...
icecougar
6/23/18 3:57pm
That would have helped but the offense was garbage
thebruce
6/23/18 4:06pm
I agree. Kalani under performed with the talent he had in both years
Coogar2
6/23/18 5:54pm
Lol. We are such a mess of a program.
Gerald-DeGroot
6/22/18 10:07pm
So if he struggles this fall I'll know why
Y4LYFE
6/23/18 12:13am
Ridiculous. If that were the case he shouldn’t even be considered to start this year.
Refugee
6/23/18 12:58am
Don't buy it. That is not what we heard.
coolblue
6/23/18 10:43am
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