Definitely. One or two players will always do what they want to do, despite the

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Sep 13, 2018
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coaches.

But when it’s a whole culture?

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Criddle & Jensen dropped the hammer a bit on players the other day

GOR

9/13/18 9:26am

loss on the players? like virtually every loss ever?

Dissenter

9/13/18 9:28am

Right. Because no one had issues with the O scheme or coaching culture last year

GOR

9/13/18 1:55pm

And if the players aren’t focused or committed, who does that go back to? 🤔

AD4

9/13/18 9:30am

To an extent... But can't be watching these kids 24/7. They have to motivate

ReggaeCoug

9/13/18 9:36am

Definitely. One or two players will always do what they want to do, despite the

AD4

9/13/18 9:37am

All the HC can do is establish a culture of discipline and hard work.

dilbert

9/13/18 9:42am

And, KS hasn't created a culture of discipline and hard work. Hence the current

TrueBlue67

9/13/18 9:58am

He couldn’t even maintain it, let alone create it

ldssdl

9/13/18 8:37pm

I was very down on KS after the first two years, but think the jury is still out

dreamlvr

9/13/18 9:11pm

I think you have some great points, but we should be better than this.

bald man

9/14/18 5:56am

I haven't written him off yet, I think a first time BYU HC deserves 5 years.

ldssdl

9/14/18 8:09am

True to a point

gww687

9/13/18 10:25am

We get it, you don't like the coaching staff.

Benfica1

9/13/18 11:37am

BYU had the players and scheme to win.... but dropped passes/missed assignments.

Benfica1

9/13/18 11:40am

Player leadership ... one would hope

Unibro

9/13/18 1:29pm

How can Criddle make that kind of assessment without being a coach?

franklyvulgar

9/13/18 9:33am

Cause he's played and maybe he knows a little more than us?

ReggaeCoug

9/13/18 9:38am

I mean the comment about player’s commitment I get evaluating plays

franklyvulgar

9/13/18 9:45am

His brother is on the team

palangi

9/13/18 10:31am

I really like Jensen. He calls it like it is.

idacoug

9/13/18 9:44am

Is it Cam Jensen?

Tricky

9/13/18 1:24pm

Yes!

Cnation

9/13/18 1:37pm

In the 2nd Half, cal's defense was drooling and playing with a lot of emotion

bald man

9/13/18 9:46am

The idea that BYU's players can't get up for the first home game of the season,

TrueBlue67

9/13/18 10:27am

LOL Yeah this would happen if BYU's coaches for the last 15 years felt like

Iki_Balam

9/13/18 2:13pm

Sounds like scholarships need to start being pulled.

Coug

9/13/18 10:22am

The coaches set the culture, and the players follow that culture

CharlottesvilleCoug

9/13/18 10:27am

Yep

Coogar2

9/13/18 9:10pm

It's not that simple. The coaches this year are absolutely pushing the

FanofBYU

9/14/18 7:40am

BYU media has given zero respect to cal after the loss, which I don't get.

Josef K

9/13/18 11:33am

Ask yourself a couple of questions. Do you think any players on Nick Saban's

cougarfan87

9/13/18 11:59am

The difference is Alabama's backups are as good or better as most teams starters

SpanishFork12

9/13/18 12:15pm

That's a great example.

wilsdad

9/13/18 1:02pm

It's a horrible example. Saban has elite talent in backup positions. We don't.

GOR

9/13/18 1:57pm

A series to get disciplined would reap great benefits. But you have to be

cougarfan87

9/13/18 2:10pm

Agreed.

wilsdad

9/13/18 2:12pm

Considering how long most of our offensive series were last week...

bacon

9/13/18 2:46pm

Stop it.

wilsdad

9/13/18 2:10pm

so why couldn't he cut it in the NFL? Less talent, his 2's weren't better than

palangi

9/13/18 2:16pm

Saban did the same thing at LSU before Bama.

wilsdad

9/13/18 2:23pm

It's LSU! They won another title without him in 2007 too. LSU gets the top

palangi

9/13/18 2:48pm

Come on

GOR

9/13/18 2:20pm

I agree...

wilsdad

9/13/18 2:25pm

Agreed. Been saying that for the last two years.

GOR

9/13/18 8:12pm

That’s it. Most of them have their scholies and have no further aspirations.

dreamlvr

9/13/18 2:51pm

How did Saban do in the NFL again?

palangi

9/13/18 1:02pm

What does that have to do with the point 87 was making??

byu_coug

9/13/18 1:33pm

Apples to oranges. BYU is not Alabama, Alabama is not NFL even if HC is the same

palangi

9/13/18 1:47pm

Interesting... so because it is two individual schools...

byu_coug

9/14/18 6:38pm

Why stop at Alabama? Compare BYU to the NE Patriots.

Benfica1

9/13/18 1:13pm

Nice strawman... He was comparing attitudes and accountability...

byu_coug

9/13/18 1:31pm

"Strongman". Thanks.

Benfica1

9/13/18 2:16pm

Ask another: How many of our guys would see the field at Alabama?

cajuncoug

9/13/18 1:45pm

Doesn't matter. I already said it won't make us Alabama. But disciplined

cougarfan87

9/13/18 2:44pm

Probably, re: your last point

cajuncoug

9/13/18 5:27pm

Apples to oranges. BYU is not Alabama, Alabama is not NFL even if HC is the same

palangi

9/13/18 1:46pm

^^^meant for above

palangi

9/13/18 1:48pm

Good. But coaching is king in CFB.

Gerald-DeGroot

9/13/18 1:45pm

I think that may be more true than we knew.

wilsdad

9/13/18 2:17pm

Next year Grimes takes team to the mountain, throws the Y helmet in the fire...

Y4LYFE

9/13/18 7:34pm

Booooooooo? What you’d rather it be the coaches fault? Why are the

Pretorian

9/13/18 9:38pm

I meant boooo as in it's disappointing to hear that maybe the players

GOR

9/14/18 1:13am

Ahhhhhh, ok I’m picking up what you’re putting down now

Pretorian

9/14/18 12:42pm

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