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Sep 13, 2018
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TrueBlue67
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And, KS hasn't created a culture of discipline and hard work. Hence the current
results. He benefited from great senior player leadership his first year. it's questionable whether KS can create that culture...
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Criddle & Jensen dropped the hammer a bit on players the other day
GOR
9/13/18 9:26am
loss on the players? like virtually every loss ever?
Dissenter
9/13/18 9:28am
Right. Because no one had issues with the O scheme or coaching culture last year
GOR
9/13/18 1:55pm
And if the players aren’t focused or committed, who does that go back to? 🤔
AD4
9/13/18 9:30am
To an extent... But can't be watching these kids 24/7. They have to motivate
ReggaeCoug
9/13/18 9:36am
Definitely. One or two players will always do what they want to do, despite the
AD4
9/13/18 9:37am
All the HC can do is establish a culture of discipline and hard work.
dilbert
9/13/18 9:42am
And, KS hasn't created a culture of discipline and hard work. Hence the current
TrueBlue67
9/13/18 9:58am
He couldn’t even maintain it, let alone create it
ldssdl
9/13/18 8:37pm
I was very down on KS after the first two years, but think the jury is still out
dreamlvr
9/13/18 9:11pm
I think you have some great points, but we should be better than this.
bald man
9/14/18 5:56am
I haven't written him off yet, I think a first time BYU HC deserves 5 years.
ldssdl
9/14/18 8:09am
True to a point
gww687
9/13/18 10:25am
We get it, you don't like the coaching staff.
Benfica1
9/13/18 11:37am
BYU had the players and scheme to win.... but dropped passes/missed assignments.
Benfica1
9/13/18 11:40am
Player leadership ... one would hope
Unibro
9/13/18 1:29pm
How can Criddle make that kind of assessment without being a coach?
franklyvulgar
9/13/18 9:33am
Cause he's played and maybe he knows a little more than us?
ReggaeCoug
9/13/18 9:38am
I mean the comment about player’s commitment I get evaluating plays
franklyvulgar
9/13/18 9:45am
His brother is on the team
palangi
9/13/18 10:31am
I really like Jensen. He calls it like it is.
idacoug
9/13/18 9:44am
Is it Cam Jensen?
Tricky
9/13/18 1:24pm
Yes!
Cnation
9/13/18 1:37pm
In the 2nd Half, cal's defense was drooling and playing with a lot of emotion
bald man
9/13/18 9:46am
The idea that BYU's players can't get up for the first home game of the season,
TrueBlue67
9/13/18 10:27am
LOL Yeah this would happen if BYU's coaches for the last 15 years felt like
Iki_Balam
9/13/18 2:13pm
Sounds like scholarships need to start being pulled.
Coug
9/13/18 10:22am
The coaches set the culture, and the players follow that culture
CharlottesvilleCoug
9/13/18 10:27am
Yep
Coogar2
9/13/18 9:10pm
It's not that simple. The coaches this year are absolutely pushing the
FanofBYU
9/14/18 7:40am
BYU media has given zero respect to cal after the loss, which I don't get.
Josef K
9/13/18 11:33am
Ask yourself a couple of questions. Do you think any players on Nick Saban's
cougarfan87
9/13/18 11:59am
The difference is Alabama's backups are as good or better as most teams starters
SpanishFork12
9/13/18 12:15pm
That's a great example.
wilsdad
9/13/18 1:02pm
It's a horrible example. Saban has elite talent in backup positions. We don't.
GOR
9/13/18 1:57pm
A series to get disciplined would reap great benefits. But you have to be
cougarfan87
9/13/18 2:10pm
Agreed.
wilsdad
9/13/18 2:12pm
Considering how long most of our offensive series were last week...
bacon
9/13/18 2:46pm
Stop it.
wilsdad
9/13/18 2:10pm
so why couldn't he cut it in the NFL? Less talent, his 2's weren't better than
palangi
9/13/18 2:16pm
Saban did the same thing at LSU before Bama.
wilsdad
9/13/18 2:23pm
It's LSU! They won another title without him in 2007 too. LSU gets the top
palangi
9/13/18 2:48pm
Come on
GOR
9/13/18 2:20pm
I agree...
wilsdad
9/13/18 2:25pm
Agreed. Been saying that for the last two years.
GOR
9/13/18 8:12pm
That’s it. Most of them have their scholies and have no further aspirations.
dreamlvr
9/13/18 2:51pm
How did Saban do in the NFL again?
palangi
9/13/18 1:02pm
What does that have to do with the point 87 was making??
byu_coug
9/13/18 1:33pm
Apples to oranges. BYU is not Alabama, Alabama is not NFL even if HC is the same
palangi
9/13/18 1:47pm
Interesting... so because it is two individual schools...
byu_coug
9/14/18 6:38pm
Why stop at Alabama? Compare BYU to the NE Patriots.
Benfica1
9/13/18 1:13pm
Nice strawman... He was comparing attitudes and accountability...
byu_coug
9/13/18 1:31pm
"Strongman". Thanks.
Benfica1
9/13/18 2:16pm
Ask another: How many of our guys would see the field at Alabama?
cajuncoug
9/13/18 1:45pm
Doesn't matter. I already said it won't make us Alabama. But disciplined
cougarfan87
9/13/18 2:44pm
Probably, re: your last point
cajuncoug
9/13/18 5:27pm
Apples to oranges. BYU is not Alabama, Alabama is not NFL even if HC is the same
palangi
9/13/18 1:46pm
^^^meant for above
palangi
9/13/18 1:48pm
Good. But coaching is king in CFB.
Gerald-DeGroot
9/13/18 1:45pm
I think that may be more true than we knew.
wilsdad
9/13/18 2:17pm
Next year Grimes takes team to the mountain, throws the Y helmet in the fire...
Y4LYFE
9/13/18 7:34pm
Booooooooo? What you’d rather it be the coaches fault? Why are the
Pretorian
9/13/18 9:38pm
I meant boooo as in it's disappointing to hear that maybe the players
GOR
9/14/18 1:13am
Ahhhhhh, ok I’m picking up what you’re putting down now
Pretorian
9/14/18 12:42pm
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