After the 1st or 2nd conference loss teams no longer have anything to play for

Oct 19, 2018
6:14:54am

ptcougr All-American

This happens to ~1/3 to 1/2 of the teams each year yet teams keep playing to the end of the season and fans keep watching.

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Of late I've been thinking a lot about BYU's place in CFB

CaliWG

10/18/18 4:30pm

Holy dissertation, Batman!

Costanza

10/18/18 4:37pm

The admins are frugal, but in the case of football, it needs to be an investment

Mises

10/18/18 4:44pm

I agree, but what is the endgame with Independence?

CaliWG

10/18/18 4:51pm

If P5 comes calling, I'm answering. But independence can work too.

Mises

10/18/18 5:02pm

Exposure. National tv

TNT

10/18/18 6:00pm

I’ve thought about the exposure issue & I’ve got a question

CaliWG

10/18/18 9:42pm

cugathrt

10/18/18 11:42pm

In a conference they would play the lower teams & miss the major inter-sectional

ptcougr

10/19/18 4:04am

I’m not necessarily talking about joining the AAC, maybe creating something new

CaliWG

10/19/18 7:44am

It’s the only thing that bar P5 I think would be good- best of G5 split to new conference. See what the market brings.

SouthernBlueBlood

10/19/18 8:48am

There are really only so many ways to go about it that have a legit future

CaliWG

10/19/18 9:03am

First I don’t think it’s happening nor do I want to join G5 as constituted but having a few dog football programs isn’t

SouthernBlueBlood

10/19/18 9:12am

The 4 team CFP is in trouble

CaliWG

10/19/18 9:16am

Pretty sure that won't ever happen

TNT

10/18/18 5:49pm

So are you basically asking if independence is good for BYU?

Costanza

10/18/18 4:49pm

The major fault with your analysis...

StantonMac

10/18/18 4:50pm

The fact that they play in conferences with the likes of Wyoming & Tulane hurts

CaliWG

10/18/18 4:56pm

If they are serious and to maximize revenue the best of G5 needs to align for football and basketball

SouthernBlueBlood

10/18/18 5:05pm

Who would that include? just curious, I would have trouble finding enough teams

here's to hoping

10/19/18 11:24am

First I’m not a fan of leaving INDY but if we did I would do the following

SouthernBlueBlood

10/19/18 11:50am

It would be hard to get down to 6-7 conf games. I don't think most schools

Still Questing

10/19/18 12:03pm

That division would make travel less of a pain, but the list of decent American

here's to hoping

10/19/18 1:19pm

It’s a fun discussion. I never get bored of it

SouthernBlueBlood

10/19/18 2:43pm

All that East Coast travel would wear on the team. Don’t think it turns out well

ManUte

10/20/18 7:04am

Playing for an AAC title may sound interesting, but only b/c we just lost to USU

Still Questing

10/18/18 5:37pm

^^^^^^^^This^^^^^^

Pretorian

10/19/18 6:07am

Except if BYU wins a conference title

1CougFan

10/19/18 9:59am

When was the last time bowl access was an issue for BYU? 1984? Was it even then?

Still Questing

10/19/18 10:26am

NY6 Bowl access is a valid point but I see that as fools gold...

Pretorian

10/19/18 1:34pm

Except it might be an easier road to 1 loss or

1CougFan

10/19/18 1:57pm

How about the spark notes on this

Samuel Hall Society

10/18/18 6:27pm

woooh...did you also happen to write the Book of Isaiah as well?

icecougar

10/18/18 8:01pm

That is the most logical argument for joining a G5 that I have ever heard.

RoyalCoug99

10/18/18 8:26pm

I liked it until the 'join a conference of have-nots'.

Benfica1

10/18/18 9:40pm

I look at it a bit differently

CaliWG

10/18/18 10:22pm

Yeah, have less fans. Have you seen a full stadium at an AAC game?

RoyalCoug99

10/19/18 12:22am

Im not talking AAC necessarily

CaliWG

10/19/18 7:45am

I'm a season ticket holder at UCF

hammergm

10/19/18 9:23am

Good until the final paragraph.

Benfica1

10/18/18 9:41pm

We obviously have to win

bigjohn

10/19/18 12:09am

RE: We obviously have to win

Iki_Balam

10/19/18 9:17pm

I always shut down when the “BYU has nothing to play for” comment jumps out.

Refugee

10/19/18 1:14am

After the 1st or 2nd conference loss teams no longer have anything to play for

ptcougr

10/19/18 6:14am

Lavell cared about conference championships, winning about 20 of them.

BlueForLife

10/19/18 12:38pm

Just win baby. just win.

jkccoug

10/19/18 12:38pm

Once a G5, always a G5. Won't work. When you say BYU has nothing to play for,

coolblue

10/19/18 7:39am

What made 2006 & 2007 successful seasons?

CaliWG

10/19/18 7:50am

I am a big indy supporter, but 'once a g5, always a g5' is objectively false

Dissenter

10/19/18 8:57am

Just play good teams. We don't have to always win but always play exciting games

qom

10/19/18 8:39am

We do have something to play for. The quality of our bowl game is directly tied

andrewg3

10/19/18 8:55am

This is only the case if the P5 conferences don't fill their allotments

CaliWG

10/19/18 9:06am

Right. But all the conferences rarely fill all their bowls.

andrewg3

10/19/18 9:21am

I'm with you man.we need something to play for. Where there is not vision the

BlueForLife

10/19/18 12:37pm

To me it comes down to one question: can you win?

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