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Jun 20, 2019
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Sea Chicken
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Devastating impact of discontinuation of Ricks College Athletics on BYU sports:
PGVikingDad
6/20/19 12:11pm
RE: Devastating impact of discontinuation of Ricks College Athletics on BYU
Six Foot Seven
6/20/19 12:14pm
What was the reason for discontinuing athletics there?
crack
6/20/19 12:14pm
the budget was moved to activities for the student body
v1k0u6
6/20/19 12:15pm
Losing money. Maybe if Tom (BYU) offered to pick up the tab for sports at BYUI
rcbyufan
6/20/19 12:17pm
"losing money" is shortsided... Athletics usually keeps alums engaged, and
Richbyu
6/20/19 12:24pm
Hey, you have me convinced. My vote doesn't count though.
rcbyufan
6/20/19 12:26pm
It is interesting. Just for fun I visited BYUI last year and they still had
pappabear246
6/20/19 1:53pm
Why can't UVU become the new Ricks? Seems like a great fit
Boring
6/22/19 4:47pm
Because it's a 4 year D1 school.
fattycoug
6/22/19 4:53pm
I was slightly tounge-in-cheek
Boring
6/22/19 7:55pm
I wasn't saying BYUI could become a feeder school to BYU again
pappabear246
6/23/19 8:20pm
On the other hand, after what just happened to BYU basketball
pappabear246
6/23/19 8:21pm
If only Tom could time travel so he could have changed that
gww687
6/20/19 1:54pm
Elder Bednar
HuskerFan2
6/20/19 12:20pm
It was President Hinckley
Mr. Belding
6/20/19 12:21pm
Okay, both of them.
HuskerFan2
6/20/19 12:21pm
Neither is what I hear, most people in Rexburg feel it came from Pres Eyring
RC Vikings
6/20/19 12:23pm
Oh my. Well, strange that I feel I’ll get ridiculed for this here, but I was able to see some of this unfold as it
Refugee
6/20/19 12:59pm
I doubt this happened without Pres Hinkley approaching Pres Eyring
RC Vikings
6/20/19 1:17pm
Even if I did share something like that it wouldn’t make any difference.
Refugee
6/20/19 1:35pm
Try
RC Vikings
6/20/19 1:50pm
I certainly will at least one more time. I’ll write something up later this evening.
Refugee
6/20/19 4:04pm
When will this post be ready? I've got the day off work and need some reading.
TheWanderer
6/21/19 10:29am
I’m working on it. Trying to reduce it down from being looooooong...
Refugee
6/21/19 12:06pm
I don't know who you are, but I like you
Stan Podolak
6/21/19 12:20pm
I'm a fast reader. Brevity is not necessary. I want all the details.
TheWanderer
6/21/19 12:41pm
I am working on it. I got super busy at work, etc. on Thursday afternoon through last night so
Refugee
6/22/19 6:24am
Ok, it's done. I created a related thread because it was so long and I just don't want to tread this ground again.
Refugee
6/22/19 9:01am
Can you elaborate please without sharing something too personal?
CLCougar
6/20/19 2:00pm
When you say “inspired”
Tsisquan
6/20/19 3:14pm
Yessir.
Refugee
6/22/19 6:22am
You guys so appauled by the idea that the decision may have been "inspired" are
fattycoug
6/22/19 6:35am
Inspired?
cougfanz
6/22/19 5:57am
Absoluty.
Refugee
6/22/19 6:23am
It's hard for us sports fans to admit ... but it was an awful lot of money
runnincoug
6/20/19 1:33pm
Do you really think it was an (either or decision)? This is one of the biggest
SnickSnack
6/20/19 3:00pm
My point is the sports program was really, really expensive, and we're a global
runnincoug
6/20/19 11:25pm
How expensive exactly? I don’t think I ever saw Ricks sports financials
cajuncoug
6/21/19 4:08am
I of course do not know the specifics, other than the majority of athletics
runnincoug
6/21/19 9:25am
Don't forget that the costs were going to get higher because they were going to
fattycoug
6/22/19 6:42am
Sure. Your enrollment is also going up though
cajuncoug
6/22/19 4:06pm
You mention the benefits out weigh the costs. What were the benefits?
SnickSnack
6/20/19 2:57pm
Going to a 4 year University ahs been greatly beneficial for a ton of people
fattycoug
6/22/19 9:12am
Missionary work has been negatively impacted
HawkeyeCoug
6/22/19 4:44pm
False. Speak what you know about.
Refugee
6/20/19 12:51pm
Plans for the name change had been in discussed before Bednar became president
HuskerFan2
6/20/19 1:49pm
All points not true. I’m sure that’s what you’ve heard, half of Rexburg had passed that around within 24 hours.
Refugee
6/20/19 3:54pm
It was all rumor. I'm glad to hear other sources.
HuskerFan2
6/20/19 5:26pm
Correlation=\=causation. I don't think Rick's was a major reason why BYU was
fattycoug
6/20/19 12:20pm
If JC guys could have really helped after that, you would ha e seen more kids
fattycoug
6/20/19 12:35pm
agree. this doesn't account for more significant variables, like
Str8CashCougar
6/20/19 1:23pm
Well then how would you explain this?
dYrtbYkerYder
6/20/19 1:47pm
RE: Well then how would you explain this?
Tsisquan
6/20/19 3:16pm
Hard to know but it definitely didn’t help things
cougfanz
6/20/19 12:24pm
we're screwed
Sea Chicken
6/20/19 12:26pm
There weren't very many kids that went from Ricks to BYU that made much of a
RC Vikings
6/20/19 12:29pm
You could make the same argument that 9/11 caused our decline.
Hill4Heisman
6/20/19 12:30pm
Maybe. The Mississippi State game had to be rescheduled as a result.
rambo
6/20/19 1:01pm
Agreed, the evidence is compelling.
CougarThug
6/20/19 4:49pm
I loved having Ricks as a feeder school in football with occasional basketball
PortlandBlue
6/20/19 12:33pm
Loss of Rick’s, Dixie, and UVSC as JUCO status has hurt our transfer pool
Odysseus
6/20/19 12:35pm
Snow stands alone, but has no schools to play now.
Florwood
6/20/19 3:53pm
Good point, it wasn't Ricks alone. All of those should have stayed JC.
Mitty
6/20/19 4:17pm
it has played a huge part, no doubt. Lots of talent came from Ricks College.
idacoug
6/20/19 1:33pm
But it was waning and now JC to D1 is basically for grades and last chance kids
fattycoug
6/20/19 2:20pm
Humm... Something an engaged AD would notice and take advantage
blackshirts
6/20/19 2:11pm
How in the world does Holmoe come into play re: Rick's?
fattycoug
6/20/19 2:23pm
He demonstrates what a great advantage it is to basically have feeder programs
blackshirts
6/20/19 3:59pm
This still has zero to do with Holmoe. He wasn't involved in any of the Ricks
fattycoug
6/20/19 4:19pm
You're probably right about the AD not being involved. I do think most JC
blackshirts
6/20/19 4:51pm
they might work closely but the number of JC players going D1 is dwindling
fattycoug
6/20/19 5:10pm
Dr. Anae agreed. I talked with him for about 30 minutes one day
6mancoach
6/20/19 2:13pm
Municipal impact was devastating. Provo will never recover.
AZcougLawyer
6/20/19 3:17pm
I was so worried about this when it happened, and our fears were realized.
Mitty
6/20/19 4:15pm
Changing to a 4yr university would have ended the pipeline anyway
morningcalmcougar
6/20/19 4:17pm
I agree with part of your sentiment, but the biggest reason for the demise of
kimdaddy35
6/20/19 4:31pm
things weren't going great at the end of Lavell's career, either
fattycoug
6/20/19 4:51pm
Lavell was old, but realize he was only 5 years removed from a top 5
kimdaddy35
6/20/19 5:02pm
Doesn't make me sick at all. Life >>>>>>>>>>>>>> BYU sports. Many people benefit
fbguru
6/22/19 10:08am
Get a life. Plant a geranium
Prickly Heat
6/22/19 1:31pm
I’d like more data. How many non-football athletes were in the pipeline.
StalwartBraveTrue
6/22/19 5:46pm
Probably had an impact, but so did the rise of Utah’s program as well as a more
Josef K
6/23/19 4:56pm
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