Heap, Haws, and Mika did nothing to directly hurt any of the programs.

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Jan 9, 2020
12:52:36pm

mudpupper All-American

Maybe they didn't live up to expectations. But especially in the case of Haws and Mika, both were great when at BYU.

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Cougarboard, am I wrong? Heaps and LP3 set back our football and basketball team

buckeyecougarguy

1/9/20 12:39pm

Yes you are wrong

TNT

1/9/20 12:41pm

*TJ Haws. And very wrong.

PGVikingDad

1/9/20 12:42pm

already corrected

buckeyecougarguy

1/9/20 12:43pm

Tanner Mangum needs to be given some credit. He is statistically the

Gerald-DeGroot

1/9/20 12:43pm

There is an honorable mention to be had there. Had he kept up his freshman

buckeyecougarguy

1/9/20 1:37pm

You realize he was benched last year by Kalani, right?

MaxxPower

1/9/20 6:01pm

No he wasn’t. He got injured.

Gerald-DeGroot

1/9/20 8:39pm

Nope. You're thinking of 2017. He was benched after USU his senior year for Wilson

MaxxPower

1/12/20 2:35pm

The Heaps effect coincided with a change at OC from Anae to Doman...

PJMort

1/9/20 12:44pm

And what caused the Mangum and Wilson declines in their second years?

SandYFan

1/9/20 12:49pm

RE: And what caused the Mangum and Wilson declines in their second years?

PJMort

1/9/20 3:27pm

yeah there have been some problems at offensive coordinator outside of R Anae.

buckeyecougarguy

1/9/20 1:41pm

Good questions. Experience is important. Skilled players also.

PJMort

1/9/20 1:54pm

KVN doesn't come to BYU if not for Heaps- Mika and TJ Haws have been

acougfan

1/9/20 12:45pm

I just look at what happened post Max Hall and it was supposed to be Heaps

buckeyecougarguy

1/9/20 1:54pm

Nope it is the curse on Max Hall

LongtimeUtahfan

1/9/20 2:56pm

for football the only answer is KS imo.

cougfanz

1/9/20 12:45pm

Disagree. Fan hype/expectations don't directly affect the program. If a coach

Thrill

1/9/20 12:46pm

So was it more of a failure to develop him from a coaching standpoint or was it

buckeyecougarguy

1/9/20 2:20pm

I think some kids with access to private coaches reach their peak sooner. Not

Thrill

1/9/20 6:32pm

we had a high point thanks to Jimmer otherwise BYU basketball has been pretty

franklyvulgar

1/9/20 12:46pm

I think Rose took a dive, not the players.

Adwight

1/9/20 12:48pm

Rose was very overrated. Bronco also set the program back a decade at least.

TheWoodman

1/9/20 1:00pm

Kilane Salami

Cougs'16

1/9/20 1:46pm

Heap, Haws, and Mika did nothing to directly hurt any of the programs.

mudpupper

1/9/20 12:52pm

yeah i guess my beef with LP3 is Emery, but i feel strongly that Mika should

buckeyecougarguy

1/9/20 2:25pm

I agree, especially with the LP3.

Count Cougar

1/9/20 4:12pm

Not getting into a P5 conference when BYU was the best choice and only had

blackshirts

1/9/20 4:18pm

You are blaming a decade of disappointment on one football player? Yes, you are

TailgateU

1/10/20 11:31am

I'm saying him not reaching his potential really dug a hole for BYU that they

buckeyecougarguy

1/10/20 2:33pm

If we are so negatively affected by a single busted player, we didn't have much

TailgateU

1/10/20 2:40pm

i'm not so sure. I think its entirely possible our coaching staff is different

buckeyecougarguy

1/10/20 3:08pm

If I were a potential recruit, fan opinions like yours would drive me away.

TailgateU

1/11/20 2:54pm

I said he had an effect. All players have a stake in the future of the program.

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