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Will Snowden saying that BYU fans need to prepare for the inevitable that is

NacoCoug

11/24/21 2:31pm

If someone comes knocking with $4-6M annually he has to seriously consider it.

Bonoman

11/24/21 2:33pm

Someone WILL come knocking with that amount. Will says he is gone

NacoCoug

11/24/21 2:35pm

Depends on if he truly wants to be like Lavell.

Hawk Talons

11/24/21 5:25pm

RE: If someone comes knocking with $4-6M annually he has to seriously consider

akbarishiwatsu

11/24/21 7:56pm

I am in the same boat as Snowden. Everyone on here seems to think Kalani would

RH84025

11/24/21 2:34pm

If Kalani left already then it would make me question everything he has ever

NacoCoug

11/24/21 2:37pm

Coaches always say amazing things about the school/location they are at

LiveCoug

11/24/21 2:38pm

Not all coaches get to coach at their alma mater and succeed.

SaintGeorgeYFan

11/24/21 7:11pm

Of course he loves BYU, but this is his actual profession and livelihood we are

RH84025

11/24/21 2:39pm

I totally understand, but we're talking about BYU and institution that represent

NacoCoug

11/24/21 2:51pm

The way I see it.

rtNelson

11/24/21 3:24pm

Honestly, which coaches lose high profile jobs and then can't get another one

krindorr

11/24/21 4:54pm

BYU job is about to get a lot easier with more pay, P5 conference and access, and increased revenues.

Turnpike Lane

11/24/21 2:39pm

Other jobs don't have to worry about an honor code and incorporating religion

RH84025

11/24/21 2:41pm

High expectations come with any fanbase that cares. IF you want lower, go G5.

Turnpike Lane

11/24/21 2:43pm

I would say BYU’s administration is probably more loyal than about any other

Submariner

11/24/21 2:47pm

And they give some leeway for the religion and HC and academic standards

Y05

11/24/21 3:21pm

Ask Ed Orgeron about expectations

Dark Forest Green

11/24/21 3:00pm

And Jimmy Lake.

Turnpike Lane

11/24/21 3:06pm

Maybe he wants to be like Lavell and money isn’t everything. 🤷‍♂️

blueaussie

11/24/21 2:43pm

Interesting salary breakdown history of CFB coaches.

Shore10

11/24/21 4:58pm

Anything about lavell in there?

blueaussie

11/24/21 5:37pm

Nothing. But it mentioned Paterno and Bowden in the same section.

Shore10

11/24/21 5:52pm

Who is Will Snowden again?

BlueVU

11/24/21 2:35pm

RB for BYU back in the day

TNT

11/24/21 2:36pm

Former player. Trains kids locally. Has a son in 2023 class that is a 4* recruit.

Turnpike Lane

11/24/21 2:37pm

Played for BYU. Son is a huge priority recruit

LiveCoug

11/24/21 2:37pm

Runs a company related to recruits and his own son is a 4* player. So he is

DraperCoug22

11/24/21 3:05pm

And if he likes another coach could use his platform to push kids away from BYU

travelcoug

11/24/21 5:13pm

Snowden loves BYU

kC Cougar

11/24/21 6:08pm

Also runs a recruiting agency in Utah, so he has connections and talks to a lot

RH84025

11/24/21 2:37pm

THEN PAY THIS MAN

BlueVU

11/24/21 2:41pm

There is a big supply/demand issue right now for top football programs..

SLIVER

11/24/21 2:40pm

I believe Kalani loves BYU, but if he can get himself, Fesi, and the rest of his

SLIVER

11/24/21 2:53pm

5M$/yr is low these days. PSU offering 80m+ to avg coach. MSU offering 95m.

Shore10

11/24/21 3:02pm

With Kalani being one of the only qualified coaches currently out west, I could

SLIVER

11/24/21 3:40pm

45 for 6 would surprise me, but I agree in theory

krindorr

11/24/21 5:09pm

He’s not saying anything that isn’t logical though. Who wouldn’t consider

Tuskaloosa Cougar

11/24/21 2:41pm

I still think it's unlikely. At least this season.

Little Mac

11/24/21 2:49pm

Well, y'all wanted Tuiaki gone.

Shore10

11/24/21 2:49pm

That just tells me Will Snowden is ignorant to BYU's resources.

rad dawg

11/24/21 2:50pm

Exactly. All this worrying is silly to me.

DraperCoug22

11/24/21 3:04pm

Not only can and likely we would step up on resources now that we have the Big 12 thing, but also some seem to not

Trent

11/24/21 3:42pm

I do think, however that he is wise to hear offers and leverage them to ensure BYU understands the market.

Trent

11/24/21 3:45pm

Also factor in the cost of living/tax situation where you’re going. $1M in Utah =\= $1M in California/Seattle

WP17

11/24/21 4:01pm

And the argument that housing costs have gone up in Utah doesn't apply when I've already seen the killer house he

Trent

11/24/21 4:04pm

As someone who lives outside Utah now (military) and wants to move back, I can vouch for this

WP17

11/24/21 4:07pm

Bronco publicly stated he likely wouldn't stay more than 10 years. Not Kalani.

CMAC38

11/24/21 5:30pm

I don’t buy it, it makes no sense

JOPE

11/24/21 3:02pm

This is my opinion as well.

Turnpike Lane

11/24/21 3:09pm

I agree with you except

stonecougar

11/24/21 3:51pm

Haven’t we heard that Holmoe is aware and they will take care of the coaches?

truecougster

11/24/21 4:43pm

Yes we have but if you can elevate the urgency you can get more $

stonecougar

11/24/21 4:46pm

Money isn't everything. Some people just have the personal desire to get paid

84 natlchamps

11/24/21 5:13pm

He also said Ty'son Williams would have a huge day against Utah...

Hutch65

11/24/21 3:03pm

In his defense. That was Grimes' fault...

Dark Forest Green

11/24/21 3:16pm

You can’t rack up yards if they don’t give you the ball.

Brigham

11/24/21 4:00pm

Which is why I said it was Grimes fault.

Dark Forest Green

11/24/21 4:07pm

Yep. I was agreeing with you.

Brigham

11/24/21 7:20pm

Will is building in a ready-made excuse why his son will sign elsewhere is my concern

CLCougar

11/24/21 3:11pm

From what his son had posted on Twitter

I'mBatman

11/24/21 5:16pm

Yup..saw that. Will looking for way out when it happens

CLCougar

11/24/21 6:17pm

How is his insight better than the ave cber? I imagine Kalani and maybe his wife

DiamondMo

11/24/21 3:12pm

One reason to stay at BYU is potential job security.

Belboz

11/24/21 3:12pm

How many places would tolerate a 2017? USC and UW clearly wouldn’t.

TerpCoug

11/24/21 3:18pm

IDK If we had another 2017 after 2020 and 2021, his seat would still be on fire.

SLIVER

11/24/21 3:41pm

Look, Kalani wouldn't be the same if not at BYU. Bronco isn't.

byujdmba

11/24/21 3:27pm

Bronco played in an NY6 bowl at UVA, he wasn't able to do that here..

SLIVER

11/24/21 3:42pm

I don't think that affects what I said.

byujdmba

11/24/21 3:52pm

Bronco may "not be the same" but he's reached levels he never did at BYU..

SLIVER

11/24/21 4:21pm

Kalani really wants to be like Lavell. I hear whether Kalani stays or not is if

byublue42

11/24/21 3:27pm

Funny how fast things change. 3 years ago people wanted him gone! .500 ball

jpal1397

11/24/21 3:31pm

It’s amazing what happens when coaches win games, right?

Spiff

11/24/21 3:57pm

It is possible. Wonder how he would do at a P5 level program.

Dr T-bone

11/24/21 3:35pm

Honestly, Kalani is a good fit for BYU and their standards and traditions but…

jpal1397

11/24/21 3:46pm

That fat paycheck is nice, but you have to deliver

Dr T-bone

11/24/21 3:55pm

Yet Mark Few, Randy Bennett, etc, have the self-control to say "no." I see no...

COACHdrn

11/24/21 3:43pm

He definitely could be, but there's also a lot who don't say no - realistically we have no idea either way

krindorr

11/24/21 5:26pm

I’ll believe it when I see it. Nothing can convince me otherwise

Dat_rmishner

11/24/21 3:44pm

That would be interesting

stonecougar

11/24/21 3:46pm

Literally cannot see Kalani coaching another program. But I thought the same

archie

11/24/21 3:58pm

Bronco literally said he wouldn't stay long at BYU. You still didnt believe him?

COACHdrn

11/24/21 4:00pm

Yeah, he talked about not wanting to coach forever, that he wouldn’t be at BYU forever, etc. all the time

JOPE

11/24/21 4:02pm

If a school like Liberty can afford to pay their coach 4 large a year, I'm

VACOUGFAN

11/24/21 4:05pm

Then Will doesn’t know Kalani as well as he thinks he does.

ChadFromCougarTown

11/24/21 4:08pm

Kalani won't leave and here's why...

AFitisemanu

11/24/21 4:20pm

Big 12 salaries aren't as high as you seem to think

krindorr

11/24/21 5:22pm

Watching the latest Deep Blue video gave me a new perspective on Kalani.

HiLife

11/24/21 4:33pm

Who cares…so tired of hearing about it.

rmarkerm

11/24/21 4:39pm

A lot of us. This is Cougarboard... its to talk about exactly stuff like this.

AltTabbins

11/24/21 4:53pm

I strongly disagree. I can't see Kalani leaving. It would be like LaVell Edwards

84 natlchamps

11/24/21 5:07pm

I don’t think you have any idea how much Kalani makes or what his incentives are

Hawk Talons

11/24/21 5:27pm

If so = phony

Lombardi

11/24/21 5:49pm

I have no idea what Kalani makes or what his motivations are. In fact, I have

crack

11/24/21 6:17pm

This is exactly where I fall; hopeful, but none of us know enough to really predict

krindorr

11/24/21 8:01pm

Both of his mentors have spent their entire careers with local schools.

dfudge

11/24/21 7:04pm

RE: Will Snowden saying that BYU fans need to prepare for the inevitable that is

Bluedarts

11/24/21 7:17pm

I’m telling you right now that $2M is enough money. Happiness is more important at that point. Also, bonus after this yr

Dr MoBYU

11/24/21 7:34pm

$95 million - 10 years at Michigan St

BlueMark

11/24/21 7:55pm

I wouldn’t fault Kalani if he is offered a job paying 6 million per year and

GeorgeAlbertsgoatie

11/24/21 8:36pm

I think Kalani recognizes the pros and cons he has here in Provo… he would have been fired from prior seasons at a P5

crm48

11/24/21 9:34pm

I think Kalani recognizes the pros and cons of the UW job too. Like, the Brinks

SLIVER

11/24/21 11:24pm

Short leashes at all those schools, he has earned himself a long leash at BYU with a transition to the B12… if he goes

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