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Bobmarleyjr
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My point is if commuter schools and schools with rolling admissions have it
It’s not that exclusive. Have you looked into the qualifications for it? BYU has a bare minimum graduate program and is at R2.
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Baylor gets tier 1 research status. Will BYU ever be interested in gaining
LiveCoug
12/21/21 4:47pm
I don’t think the BOT care all that much about it. They care about undergrad,
TerpCoug
12/21/21 4:49pm
Not in all fields. Teaching undergrad psychology is my passion
The Dark Knight
12/21/21 5:00pm
If it was something that they knew would benefit the University without compromising its mission, I'm sure they'd
Bob Vance
12/21/21 5:02pm
I think the BOT likes all the good things that the graduate research departments across BYU accomplish, so it's not like
dilbert
12/21/21 5:13pm
Kudos to USU and its Space Dynamics Lab.
Everyman
12/21/21 4:53pm
Not a surprise - SDL does good work
krindorr
12/22/21 6:42am
So is UAB
Mississippi
12/21/21 4:58pm
The BOT wants BYU to focus on undergraduate teaching, but have enough
Monomachos
12/21/21 5:34pm
As long as BYU and the BOT are more interested in training people to be good
Nat Gas Man
12/21/21 5:55pm
RE: As long as BYU and the BOT are more interested in training people to be good
ChadFromCougarTown
12/21/21 9:17pm
I felt that one of the main differences between my undergrad at BYU and my grad school program was that BYU
HarlemCoug
12/22/21 6:06am
BYUs resistance against research is beyond me. What I love is the nonsense
Bluedomination
12/22/21 5:13am
There isn't a "resistance against research" at BYU - faculty have an obligation
Monomachos
12/22/21 9:27am
This. There is a ton of great research going on at BYU. BYU (or the Church) is not trying to suppress that. But they do
dilbert
12/22/21 10:20am
Exactly; to go along with that, BYU is in the top ten of all universities in
Monomachos
12/22/21 12:36pm
The focus is to allow as many people as possible to have the "BYU experience."
Sir Hammer
12/21/21 7:32pm
I’m not 100% on this, but a large portion of achieving R1 is dependent on the
Sparky77
12/21/21 7:47pm
Has any school achieved T1 status without dirtying their hands with...
Les IsMore
12/21/21 8:33pm
BYU currently receives federal research grants. At least in the Environmental
Sparky77
12/21/21 9:04pm
It's not just environmental - BYU does a LOT of federal research grants
krindorr
12/22/21 5:32am
Yep. It's fascinating how widely believed this false rumor is. I'm not sure where it came from, but BYU researchers
dilbert
12/22/21 8:53am
It probably comes from the fact that BYUI and BYUH don't receive anything.
Oceanographer
12/22/21 11:05am
Yeah, maybe so.
dilbert
12/22/21 11:23am
No, BYU has no plans to become a T1 research school
ColoSpgs
12/21/21 10:10pm
Utes make a big deal but it’s not a big deal and not very exclusive.
Bobmarleyjr
12/22/21 12:51am
It does cut against the whole "BYU is the best school in the region" narrative
reddead
12/22/21 2:27am
I would put many if not most of the U and USU's grad research programs above BYU
MetaLearner
12/22/21 10:29am
Based upon applicant credentials BYU is by far the best in the area
Bobmarleyjr
12/22/21 11:28am
At the undergraduate level, yes. Not graduate level though (research programs).
MetaLearner
12/22/21 11:51am
Which graduate program at BYU is ranked worse than the counter parts?
Bobmarleyjr
12/22/21 12:09pm
Quite a few honestly
krindorr
12/22/21 12:12pm
Most of those listed are not offered at BYU especially all the medical.
Bobmarleyjr
12/22/21 1:09pm
So, let's go ahead and take all the medical out then - Utah then only has 13 better programs to BYU's 4
krindorr
12/22/21 1:20pm
There are approximately 1,452 4-year colleges and universities; only 137 are R1.
Everyman
12/22/21 6:00am
You can’t couldn’t all colleges without a graduate program
Bobmarleyjr
12/22/21 11:36am
There are close to 1200 colleges that grant at least 50 master's degrees
MetaLearner
12/22/21 12:04pm
My point is if commuter schools and schools with rolling admissions have it
Bobmarleyjr
12/22/21 12:13pm
Yes, I'm very familiar with these rankings.
MetaLearner
12/22/21 12:34pm
I agree with you to an extent. However, it's my experience that just because you
Sparky77
12/22/21 5:18pm
Yep agree with you on all points.
MetaLearner
12/22/21 5:45pm
That makes sense. I agree, even with the “blind” review process they still tend
Sparky77
12/22/21 6:09pm
Of that only 37 are Private schools and less than 10 even semi religious.
Sic'Em Beers
12/24/21 6:57pm
More importantly, BYU grads are rocking the world. Give it another decade or so
RealityCheck
12/22/21 7:01am
Yup, as this increases so will the quality of research
runningryan
12/22/21 7:51am
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