The market is/was flooded with no degree devmountain grads, and they struggle to

Jan 19, 2023
3:32:18pm

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find jobs. Unless they have a really strong portfolio, or find someone willing to take a chance on them so they can get experience on their resume.

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Advice please - my 18 year old interested in coding. Suggestions? Backstory is

BYUfan92

1/19/23 3:30pm

Why not take some computer programming classes in college before he makes a quick decision that he may regret later.

Baron

1/19/23 3:31pm

Good question - (1) none currently available at the college he is at for this

BYUfan92

1/19/23 3:36pm

Seems like they have a CS degree:

Baron

1/19/23 3:40pm

Yes thanks - I should have said the classes are currently full and he hates

BYUfan92

1/19/23 3:48pm

NAU definitely has programming classes, I've had colleagues who are alumni.

Mitty

1/19/23 5:53pm

The market is/was flooded with no degree devmountain grads, and they struggle to

BYUFootballisBack

1/19/23 3:32pm

Layoffs right now have packed the market with developers. Doing devmountain

tarzan15

1/19/23 3:33pm

Visual Studio Code, YouTube, GitHub, GitHub CoPilot, Chat GPT, Stackoverflow.

The Old Y

1/19/23 3:33pm

I would second this. If he want's to really do coding, get the degree it will

phillycc

1/19/23 3:40pm

Tell him to stick it out until he has a solid plan. Use generals to explore

HFF

1/19/23 3:34pm

If he insists, find one of the ones that doesn't take a dime until you actually

BYUFootballisBack

1/19/23 3:35pm

Is he interested in actual coding or just an IT career? BIG difference.

rad dawg

1/19/23 3:39pm

I'd lean hard into Cisco.

Belboz

1/19/23 6:27pm

Security, firewalls, etc. There's easy money there.

Belboz

1/19/23 6:32pm

I have rejected every Devmountian 'developer' that i've interviewed.

TheLost

1/19/23 3:41pm

A company I worked for took a couple of Devmountain developers...

Coug

1/19/23 3:48pm

The biggest obstacle is offshore and places like Fiverr..

TheLost

1/19/23 5:01pm

We've had some work offshore and our company is kind of done with it... even if it's cheaper...

Coug

1/20/23 9:35am

Thats why we only use our offshore teams for basic 'web development'..

TheLost

1/20/23 9:58am

Most of the people I've seen do DevMountain (or similar) haven't successfully landed dev jobs. I'd definitely...

cscougar

1/19/23 3:42pm

DevMountian will be an uphill battle. BloomTech is a much better option for a boot camp style path

molodyets

1/19/23 3:46pm

If he thinks college is a scam, coding bootcamps are an outright racket. I'd recommend he take some programming courses

YIsForBrigham

1/19/23 3:48pm

Why the rush to get into the workforce? The college experience is good for continuing to mature young people before..

greatbam

1/19/23 3:51pm

RE: Advice please - my 18 year old interested in coding. Suggestions?

Slicey'J

1/19/23 3:51pm

I interview FAANG engineers. To make lots of money, all that matters is that

snowbird

1/19/23 3:56pm

You can do it but in the dev world, college is a huge leg up. With the way internships work and the relationship

YIsForBrigham

1/19/23 3:58pm

Typically, when a self-taught software engineer makes it through tech screening

snowbird

1/19/23 4:03pm

My SIL went to Devmountain and did extra stuff and got a low level starting job.

85fan

1/19/23 4:16pm

He might want to check out WGU.

barnacle

1/19/23 4:20pm

Take a break and work for a while if needed, then look at WGU or somewhere

BYUpsychom

1/19/23 4:34pm

EVERYONE - THANKS SO MUCH! Reading him all the comments, and feedback. Hugely

BYUfan92

1/19/23 4:44pm

If you're in SL County, the library has free resources to learn.

Best Guess

1/19/23 5:29pm

"Coding" is so broad but roughly, this is my field

justAnotherCoug

1/19/23 5:36pm

I've rarely worked with folks that don't have a four-year degree in my field

Mitty

1/19/23 5:50pm

One more vote to finish the degree. I've been in IT/programming for 20yrs. Sat in on many interviews for devs. You're

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