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May 21, 2015
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byujacob
Crazy that in our civilized society some people might be uncomfortable with bare
breasts. Shocking, I know. And they basically said as much in an anonymous poll.
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The public breastfeeding debate is archaic, misogynistic, and chauvanistic
SoCalCoug
5/21/15 9:21am
Where is the debate?
kccougar
5/21/15 9:26am
Follow the link.
SoCalCoug
5/21/15 9:27am
Crazy that in our civilized society some people might be uncomfortable with bare
byujacob
5/21/15 9:33am
You realize you just implied that public breastfeeding is "uncivilized"
SoCalCoug
5/21/15 9:34am
I didn't. I said some people are uncomfortable with bare breasts.
byujacob
5/21/15 9:36am
In a "civilized" society.
SoCalCoug
5/21/15 9:37am
Here's your problem. You are assuming that someone who is uncomfortable about
byujacob
5/21/15 9:40am
No, and that's my point. It's hard enough for a nursing mother to feed her
SoCalCoug
5/21/15 9:42am
My wife has breastfed four kids. We've never been in a situation where she had
byujacob
5/21/15 9:48am
I didn't see a debate, but thanks for letting us know emphatically
kccougar
5/21/15 9:35am
You're not seeing what you apparently don't want to see.
SoCalCoug
5/21/15 9:40am
Truly groundbreaking, progressive, and controversial.
kccougar
5/21/15 9:43am
Counter my arrogance with your own. Touche.
SoCalCoug
5/21/15 9:48am
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Buffalo
5/21/15 9:26am
Feel better now?
byujacob
5/21/15 9:27am
Not until I punch someone in the throat.
SoCalCoug
5/21/15 9:30am
I've never understood why people have a problem with this, though like you, it
BigD Coug
5/21/15 9:29am
I've got a good story to tell about renting a breast pump. (semi-r-rated)
ClackamasCoug
5/21/15 10:02am
how many single CB'ers are now setting up appts for their 'wife' to rent pump?
keoki
5/21/15 6:00pm
I started out wishing I knew your wife.
panguitch
5/22/15 7:39am
100% true. I live in Oregon, and she was a nature gal. She had no qualms.
ClackamasCoug
5/22/15 9:08am
What caliber were the guns?
Yeti_Mawl
5/22/15 10:42am
Wow, tell us how you really feel... seriously there's no debate 93% of the
kotacoug
5/21/15 9:30am
Sounds like your wife isn't the only one that needs some sleep.
Dread Pirate Westley
5/21/15 9:31am
Ooh, good one. You got me.
SoCalCoug
5/21/15 9:49am
I'm very pro breastfeeding and I agree with your general point
jrob30
5/21/15 9:34am
Another thing to keep in mind - only mom can breastfeed
SoCalCoug
5/21/15 9:36am
lol, thin-skinned much? Look I agree with most of what you wrote but
bulletproof
5/21/15 9:35am
You don't have a problem with shaming or embarrassing nursing mothers?
SoCalCoug
5/21/15 9:43am
I have a problem with people like you always trying to change everyone around
bulletproof
5/21/15 9:49am
"You look like a whiny little sissy" - ad hominem much?
SoCalCoug
5/21/15 9:52am
not at all, its entirely relevant to the situation. In fact, it probably
bulletproof
5/21/15 9:58am
Care of the child should be the issue and I have never had an issue with a
Fdnman
5/21/15 9:36am
ummm.... if a kid is old enough to walk around and ask for it....
kotacoug
5/21/15 9:39am
Fine. Not at all what I'm talking about, though.
SoCalCoug
5/21/15 9:47am
But people worrying more about the "agenda" are having an effect on
SoCalCoug
5/21/15 9:46am
I could be convinced, but I need to see more long words ending in "-ic"
JackStack
5/21/15 9:36am
Bombastic?
SoCalCoug
5/21/15 10:43am
Ahh, the offseason at its finest.
ldssdl
5/21/15 9:40am
Maybe we can start up a formula / nursing cover MLM
ebv
5/21/15 10:05am
I don't even understand why there is a debate. When possible, out of courtesy
Epileptic Beagle
5/21/15 9:44am
and in church there is a room specifically for this type of activity. Use it.
blueaussie
5/21/15 9:51am
A convenience, not a requirement.
SoCalCoug
5/21/15 9:53am
Courtesy is never a requirement, but it is appreciated.
Dread Pirate Westley
5/21/15 9:55am
That's how I feel about the bathroom
KingDave
5/21/15 9:55am
Feeding a child does not equate to taking a crap. FYI
Blue Ghost
5/21/15 9:57am
And there we go - the breastfeeding/peeing analogy.
SoCalCoug
5/21/15 9:58am
You really need to chill, dude.
KingDave
5/21/15 10:03am
Jokes are usually funny. Sorry for the mistake.
SoCalCoug
5/21/15 10:07am
In my experience yours never are.
Epileptic Beagle
5/21/15 11:09am
Good argument. Hyperbolic generalizations always win.
SoCalCoug
5/21/15 11:50am
Better analogy is changing a diaper
Remigius
5/21/15 10:07am
You're absolutely right. And the way people react to you not extending that
Epileptic Beagle
5/21/15 10:03am
I'm not the one who can't handle the sight of a breastfeeding mother
SoCalCoug
5/21/15 10:41am
That's funny, because that's a completely different point than the one you've
Epileptic Beagle
5/21/15 11:23am
You must have misread my post.
SoCalCoug
5/21/15 11:35am
Nope. Here you go.
Epileptic Beagle
5/21/15 11:38am
You're not making sense.
SoCalCoug
5/21/15 11:46am
Heaven forbid that someone breastfeed in sacrament meeting . . . errr . . .
ebv
5/21/15 9:56am
Happened just about every week on my mission. Then again, it was also common on
Dread Pirate Westley
5/21/15 9:59am
Is "cultural norm" an excuse for shame?
SoCalCoug
5/21/15 10:02am
It really is laughable how condescending you are to people with differing
Epileptic Beagle
5/21/15 10:06am
I think there are some absolutes.
SoCalCoug
5/21/15 10:16am
Sorry, man. That's just false. You're not the only one with a wife who has
Epileptic Beagle
5/21/15 10:43am
So it's not about what's right, it's about what takes less effort. Got it.
SoCalCoug
5/21/15 10:45am
Nice straw man. You're the one who was ranting about the inconvenience. You're
Epileptic Beagle
5/21/15 11:03am
I get it. If I say the sky is blue, you'll argue that I'm an idiot.
SoCalCoug
5/21/15 11:37am
Not at all. Feel free to make a coherent and reasonable argument and I'll be the
Epileptic Beagle
5/21/15 11:39am
RE: Not at all. Feel free to make a coherent and reasonable argument and I'll be
SoCalCoug
5/21/15 11:42am
LOL. Still waiting
Epileptic Beagle
5/21/15 11:46am
I can't dictate when you're going to be rational. It may take a while.
SoCalCoug
5/21/15 11:51am
Who said anything about shaming or stoning? Thanks for the hyperbole though.
Dread Pirate Westley
5/21/15 10:10am
I think cultural norms by definition create shame. isn't that the point of the
jbonita
5/21/15 11:54am
Wow, hyperbole much?
NewMexiCoug
5/21/15 12:26pm
Yep. I get it. It's just funny that 19th Century Mormons had no qualms about it
ebv
5/21/15 10:02am
1871? So is polygamy okay too?
blueaussie
5/21/15 10:02am
It's weird that we've progressed so much in some areas, yet regressed in others,
SoCalCoug
5/21/15 10:04am
Wait, is there a law preventing mothers from breastfeeding in public? You are
Epileptic Beagle
5/21/15 10:08am
Relax, I thought by the
you'd know it was a joke.
blueaussie
5/21/15 10:16am
Give it another five years or so.
ebv
5/21/15 10:07am
You are probably spot on.
blueaussie
5/21/15 10:17am
Condescend much?
StantonMac
5/21/15 9:59am
That's the word I was looking for - it's also condescending to make nursing
SoCalCoug
5/21/15 10:03am
Yes it is. It's also condescending for a nursing mother to disregard the
StantonMac
5/21/15 10:11am
This is exactly what I'm talking about.
SoCalCoug
5/21/15 10:54am
So it's about how difficult a task is?
StantonMac
5/21/15 11:09am
No.
SoCalCoug
5/21/15 11:44am
The vast majority of women don't cover up because society is "forcing" them to.
StantonMac
5/21/15 11:58am
"inner sense of modesty"
SoCalCoug
5/21/15 12:12pm
Whatever the cause, you are saying people "force" women to cover up
StantonMac
5/21/15 12:52pm
In many ways I do feel oppressed, but that's another discussion
SoCalCoug
5/21/15 3:09pm
Are you really saying people who want women to cover up do so because they HATE
jbonita
5/21/15 3:12pm
Holy crap, but people around here have such narrow interpretations of words
SoCalCoug
5/21/15 4:00pm
It's cute how you think you're smarter than everyone.
Epileptic Beagle
5/21/15 4:05pm
Because I know the actual definition of words?
SoCalCoug
5/21/15 7:49pm
Words have a meaning. Misogyny, homophobia, racism, etc. are strong words
jbonita
5/21/15 5:23pm
I think the words fit.
SoCalCoug
5/21/15 7:49pm
best case scenario you are dog whistling. Worst case you are being inflammatory.
jbonita
5/21/15 11:50pm
I agree with a lot of the stuff you post, but man, your delivery is awful. Relax
messi
5/21/15 6:15pm
When people read my posts, does an angry voice say the words in their heads?
SoCalCoug
5/21/15 7:47pm
Nobody is making the vast majority of women feel ashamed or embarrassed
StantonMac
5/21/15 5:39pm
Oh, it doesn't affect a majority, so who really gives a crap?
SoCalCoug
5/21/15 7:45pm
No, more like stop using your own personal anecdotal evidence to pretend this is
Epileptic Beagle
5/21/15 8:53pm
How has this blown up into a "huge problem in society"?
SoCalCoug
5/22/15 4:34pm
You may not like it, but that is the way our society has "progressed." The
Epileptic Beagle
5/21/15 10:15am
People on this board judge mothers who don't cover up.
SoCalCoug
5/21/15 10:18am
And you allow that to offend your sensibilities. How does that make you any
Epileptic Beagle
5/21/15 10:44am
Unwarranted shaming offends my sensibilities. Okay, you got me.
SoCalCoug
5/21/15 10:49am
Congrats on your outrage. You're really changing the world.
Epileptic Beagle
5/21/15 11:04am
At least someone's trying.
SoCalCoug
5/21/15 11:07am
Another way to look at it:
BigD Coug
5/21/15 10:43am
I agree, it's the perverts and stalkers who are the concern here.
SoCalCoug
5/21/15 10:51am
I'll admit to being slightly disgusted by it
Belboz
5/21/15 10:45am
Chauvinistic. Spelling--it's not just for manly men anymore.
CougarMandias
5/21/15 10:45am
I thought it looked wrong.
SoCalCoug
5/21/15 10:52am
Trust your instincts. Occasionally they aren't wrong.
CougarMandias
5/22/15 7:49am
BINGO! I HATE women! Cover them up! "Why can't a women be more like a man?!"
Scooter
5/21/15 10:51am
Agreed. Just don't get mad when you're ogled. It's just as natural for men to
db59840
5/21/15 1:11pm
Hold on to something...
Heinz57
5/21/15 1:47pm
Woah, aren't you almost 50? Twins in your 40's
Cochise Cat
5/22/15 12:35am
I'll be 63 when they graduate high school.
SoCalCoug
5/22/15 4:39pm
I pretty much don't disagree with anything you said, but anytime someone starts
UNLVcougar
5/22/15 8:16am
You know, I once made a harmless joke here about a woman making a sandwich, and
SoCalCoug
5/22/15 4:40pm
Undoubtedly, you offended a few of the male mods...
Breaded Hamster
5/22/15 6:23pm
Agree. A nursing woman should cover up to the extent necessary for HER to feel
frontrowcougar
5/22/15 9:18pm
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