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Jun 30, 2016
8:26:58am

TheWarden Walk-on

If you're really good programs will still offer no matter what.

Sure there are a few examples of guys just not listening or replying to coaches or even just not making offers known since they're already committed, but good players get offered even if they're committed to a school. Byu is recruiting guys who are committed to other schools because they are good players. How much they listen is up to the kid.

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TheWarden

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The CB locals are starting to get restless about BYU football's recruiting...

Bostonblue

6/29/16 2:04pm

Bottom line, the higher the stars the higher success rate in both college and

JOPE

6/29/16 2:08pm

BYU has been landing a few 4 star recruits most years. The problem is that

Bostonblue

6/29/16 2:13pm

Couldn't disagree more

g$

6/29/16 2:20pm

I agree with you

I'mBatman

6/29/16 3:58pm

and USC. Screw USC.

6/29/16 9:49pm

Seems like the kids that go to USC however

I'mBatman

6/30/16 11:02am

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Accipiter

6/29/16 4:13pm

problem is you're losing these kids to Stanford, USC, ND. Even if BYU

Bostonblue

6/29/16 4:21pm

If most of the LDS kids came to BYU, it would be perrenial top 20 too

g$

6/29/16 4:35pm

what you're advocating for is not likely IMO. Think of it this way,

Bostonblue

6/29/16 5:26pm

to be blunt, that is loser mentality

g$

6/29/16 5:39pm

recruiting has changed so much since the 80s when Lavell was doing it. And no

Bostonblue

6/29/16 5:46pm

How many two or three star players didn't pan out or never saw the field?

JOPE

6/29/16 2:24pm

the point is we need more depth. You build that from the bottom and

Bostonblue

6/29/16 4:22pm

Not true. We need coaches tht are good evaluators & developers of talent, though

mantis mutu

6/29/16 3:51pm

100% agree. Not all 4\5* guys turn out and many 2* guys become AA/All Pro

BYUHgrad

6/29/16 6:04pm

You only have 25 so each one counts

I'mBatman

6/29/16 2:08pm

I'm pretty sure no one will care if they win 10 games consistently

TheWarden

6/29/16 2:11pm

10 wins with our future schedules would be historically impressive.

Bostonblue

6/29/16 2:15pm

Which ones are you nervous about? Which ones do you think will be good?

6/29/16 2:16pm

Baker, Lewis, Hanneman, and willis. I think they all have potential to be good.

TheWarden

6/29/16 2:25pm

Lewis had some of the best Sparq numbers in the country IIRC

ayfan

6/29/16 2:50pm

Not saying they won't be good, just they're the type byu has always gotten

TheWarden

6/29/16 3:25pm

That's great but why don't they have other offers?

I'mBatman

6/29/16 4:02pm

Guys like Lewis and Hanneman are local kids who BYU has TONS of connections with

ayfan

6/29/16 4:10pm

I'm okay with those two

I'mBatman

6/29/16 4:21pm

Well so you know,

southernfriedcougar

6/29/16 7:46pm

Would you rather BYU offer guys early that commit and then don't get other

cougaman

6/29/16 11:55pm

If you're really good programs will still offer no matter what.

TheWarden

6/30/16 8:26am

Yeah, and a lot of them end up leaving for the bigger programs. Coaches are

cougaman

6/30/16 9:00am

To be fair, the expectation was that there would be improved recruiting

g$

6/29/16 2:14pm

I think focusing on the top end is the wrong way to view things.

Bostonblue

6/29/16 2:19pm

And yet KVN singlehandedly won the Poinsettia bowl against SDSU a few years back

stoils

6/29/16 2:22pm

If landing 3 4 stars is the top end, that is scary

JOPE

6/29/16 2:22pm

Why? Other programs do.

southernfriedcougar

6/29/16 2:29pm

No they don't

g$

6/29/16 2:39pm

the classes ranked 25th in recruiting the last few years

JOPE

6/29/16 2:48pm

TCU doesn't do that every year FYI.

southernfriedcougar

6/29/16 3:02pm

Yes, but they are consistently in the top 30

JOPE

6/29/16 3:09pm

They're not consistently up there.

southernfriedcougar

6/29/16 3:21pm

TCU '15 42, '14 43, '13 36, '12 29, '11 29

g$

6/29/16 3:55pm

Says the guy who hasn't shot anything down yet.

southernfriedcougar

6/29/16 4:50pm

Exactly what I thought. Can't read AND nothing to say.

southernfriedcougar

6/29/16 5:11pm

lol @ you putting the exact same 247 rankings in there

g$

6/29/16 5:16pm

So what exactly are you laughing at as it relates to his comment?

southernfriedcougar

6/29/16 5:31pm

Hmmm,

southernfriedcougar

6/29/16 2:57pm

The amount of other offers is a good way to evaluate ut

I'mBatman

6/29/16 4:01pm

RE: The amount of other offers is a good way to evaluate ut

southernfriedcougar

6/29/16 5:16pm

Exactly right.

southernfriedcougar

6/29/16 2:25pm

USC will start 4 LDS players next year

g$

6/29/16 2:27pm

Just because someone grew up LDS doesn't mean they have any intention

molodyets

6/29/16 3:13pm

Absolutely true. But these kids are also ground zero of where BYU can improve

cajuncoug

6/29/16 3:52pm

You know Masina isn't LDS, right?

mantis mutu

6/29/16 11:50pm

Quick Question

nitroboy

12/22/16 6:58pm

Exactly. More solid 3 star guys in the bottom half with great

TheWarden

6/29/16 2:27pm

Depth only matters...

CoachSpeak

6/29/16 5:14pm

Depth is huge on defense and special teams.

TheWarden

6/29/16 10:02pm

Almost the craziest thing I've heard on this thread.

southernfriedcougar

6/30/16 7:06am

What's "crazy" about it?

CoachSpeak

6/30/16 9:56am

Suggesting any form of a "depth ONLY matters when..."

southernfriedcougar

6/30/16 1:04pm

You've got a serious comprehension problem....

CoachSpeak

6/30/16 4:26pm

Nice load of garbage to start as it didn't relate to anything from my

southernfriedcougar

6/30/16 6:12pm

You just failed at compression, that's your fault...

CoachSpeak

6/30/16 7:32pm

RE: To be fair, the expectation was that there would be improved recruiting

southernfriedcougar

6/29/16 2:24pm

I really don't care what anyone is saying about recruiting at this point.

Blue Golfer

6/29/16 2:27pm

That's too much common sense and level-headednes for CB

6/29/16 2:43pm

How is that different than past years?

gmj81

6/29/16 2:36pm

This post is dead on. Especially about the part about BYU's lack of offering

Bostonblue

6/29/16 4:37pm

The staff is in a hard spot right now with recruiting.

Jeffe

6/29/16 2:48pm

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Jasenblain

6/29/16 3:40pm

For those saying we need 4/5 star athletes...

Jasenblain

6/29/16 3:43pm

Like I've said before, this coaching staff has Harbaugh-like expectations.

OPINIONS

6/29/16 4:21pm

A new coaching staff isn't enough. Players will want to see how BYU football

oldrugger

6/29/16 4:33pm

Players will want to see results first. Sitake has no track record.

oldrugger

6/29/16 4:35pm

Haven't we been told our expectations are too high like a million times?

Harrison0Yfan

6/29/16 4:45pm

If you were projected as a 4 or 5 star recruit

Rigormortise

6/29/16 7:27pm

Stars Matter.

6/29/16 8:01pm

I thought Sitake was suppose to be this great recruiter.

coolblue

6/29/16 8:39pm

Chaulk it up to ignorance. They likely don't realize kids sign after their Jr yr

NotOfYourFaithBYUFAN

6/30/16 12:45am

Agreed. Lamb put more of these players in the draft last year than Kyle put 4-5

StalwartBraveTrue

6/30/16 7:52am

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