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Jul 18, 2018
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blackshirts
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No way!!! just like UCF. Plus a two loss Ohio st, Alabama, would get in first.
Also all the P5 conference Champians would be ranked higher.
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Jake Trotter of ESPN was on 1280
TNT
7/18/18 5:39pm
Imo the only future byu football has is if the church
johnnycarson
7/18/18 5:42pm
TNT believes that ship has sailed
TNT
7/18/18 5:43pm
October 28, 2011, The day the B12 picked WV over BYU! The one chance at P5.
blackshirts
7/18/18 9:34pm
LOL. G5 has no place in football playoffs, but boy, BYU sure needs to rush and join one of those lame duck conferences!
LiveCoug
7/18/18 5:42pm
Because indy is killing the program.
johnnycarson
7/18/18 5:44pm
No it's not. Losing and bad coaching is killing the program- not independence
CougarBacker
7/18/18 6:24pm
We are not getting the players to compete with our
johnnycarson
7/18/18 7:25pm
LOL at people who think BYU will get better talent in a TCU and Utah less MWC
CougarBacker
7/18/18 7:38pm
We will get about what we are now... 70 or 80.
johnnycarson
7/18/18 7:41pm
If that's our option than I vote shut it down. I have no interest in supporting
CougarBacker
7/18/18 8:32pm
Slow death...ha ha that is rich. What conferences did BYU compete in, dominate,
TheLoneCougar
7/19/18 7:25am
LOL dude! I'm 44 years old. I remember very well how BYU became BYU
CougarBacker
7/19/18 12:36pm
Is it worth it to play for absolutely nothing right now?
TheLoneCougar
7/20/18 7:41am
RE: Is it worth it to play for absolutely nothing right now?
CougarBacker
7/20/18 9:42am
The classic GIF response, must have struck a chord. No worries, I get it.
TheLoneCougar
7/20/18 12:42pm
You're not very good at being right about things
CougarBacker
7/20/18 1:09pm
Thank you.
TheLoneCougar
7/20/18 1:35pm
You're welcome
CougarBacker
7/20/18 1:49pm
What makes you think last years team would have performed any better in the MWC? We would have still missed a bowl
YIsForBrigham
7/18/18 9:06pm
Fine. But most years would be more interesting.
johnnycarson
7/18/18 10:42pm
And what would the same team in the MWC have to play for? We lose 1 or 2 games
SUAVO
7/18/18 11:16pm
It’s the exact same floor in the MWC with a much lower ceiling and a boring route to get there
YIsForBrigham
7/18/18 11:25pm
Bravo
BYUButters
7/19/18 2:22pm
Agree! The fact 2017 was the first year of all Indy recruits and 2018 class
blackshirts
7/18/18 9:54pm
He said that he believes
TNT
7/18/18 5:44pm
G5=INDY=G5, it's all non-P5! It's all the future D2 football. The P4 will
blackshirts
7/18/18 9:44pm
I’d say the same for INDY! It is the same, non-P5
blackshirts
7/20/18 10:51am
RE: Jake Trotter of ESPN was on 1280
Countcougula
7/18/18 5:44pm
Hey don't hurt the messenger
TNT
7/18/18 5:45pm
If BYU went 12-0 in one of the future schedules I believe there’s a great chance at CFP. Not saying it will happen but I
SouthernBlueBlood
7/18/18 5:52pm
That's what the system wants you to believe. They are grateful
TNT
7/18/18 5:53pm
Why does TNT suddenly feel like Morpheus?
TNT
7/18/18 5:53pm
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kcca
7/18/18 5:57pm
We have 80th best talent. I suppose if I shot a - 15
johnnycarson
7/18/18 5:54pm
I don’t think we’re running the table with those schedules but I think if we did
SouthernBlueBlood
7/18/18 5:58pm
If you are undefeated with a top 30 SOS, pretty hard to keep you out
Dr T-bone
7/18/18 6:35pm
It wouldn't happen. Conferences would panic and throw a fit because of how much
BlueForLife
7/18/18 8:56pm
I actually agree. BYU still has a brand that makes people all over the country curious when things are going well.
Refugee
7/18/18 9:03pm
No way!!! just like UCF. Plus a two loss Ohio st, Alabama, would get in first.
blackshirts
7/18/18 9:59pm
Two loss Alabama, Ohio St yes I could see that but there’s a good chance out of four other possible teams if this dream
SouthernBlueBlood
7/19/18 4:16am
I'll worry about being included in the Playoff
2FarGone
7/18/18 6:00pm
We worry so much about something we'll never be qualified for.
mudpupper
7/18/18 6:15pm
This should be surprising to no one.
Junior Deputy
7/18/18 6:27pm
BYU has no future as a G% either. So what do you propose?
CougarBacker
7/18/18 6:34pm
BYU’s only chance is the AAC... join it and hope it gets elevated to P5
Coug
7/18/18 7:04pm
This may be true. Gotta wait for next round of conference shuffling to be sure.
TayPower
7/19/18 11:18am
Duh
Coogar2
7/18/18 7:21pm
I think it’s possible to make the playoff but it would take
D.T. Survivor
7/18/18 7:37pm
This is what Bronco said
TNT
7/18/18 7:53pm
I’m torn because I think an 8 team playoff would be better. But I’m worried that will inevitably include an auto bid for
YIsForBrigham
7/18/18 9:05pm
Wrong. BYU in an undefeated with current schedule gets in
CableGuy
7/18/18 11:42pm
Facts are facts. You can bash G5 all you want, but sometimes you have to take a
TheLoneCougar
7/19/18 7:32am
Your answer is BYU
2FarGone
7/19/18 8:53am
No, BYU is also not a flash in the pan. We are mediocre at best since Indy.
TheLoneCougar
7/19/18 9:02am
UCF isn't more attractive. BYU's 1 crappy year and UCF's one great year doesn't
SUAVO
7/19/18 9:22am
I respectfully disagree. This isn't about just last year, specifically for BYU.
TheLoneCougar
7/19/18 10:23am
BYU can bring in more money and has more fans around the country
SUAVO
7/19/18 11:35am
Nobody cares about history 30+ years ago.
TheLoneCougar
7/19/18 11:50am
^^^ TRUTH!
Coug
7/19/18 11:56am
Conferences care and even underperforming the last decade isn't as bad as
SUAVO
7/19/18 12:03pm
Where outside Utah have you been living btw
CLCougar
7/19/18 12:07pm
GA and TX
TheLoneCougar
7/19/18 12:12pm
Fans don't care, but the people who make the decisions do
CougarBacker
7/19/18 12:39pm
No, you are wrong. Only fans care about 30+ years ago, decision makers don't.
TheLoneCougar
7/20/18 7:41am
Nope you're absolutely wrong about that. Sorry bud
CougarBacker
7/20/18 9:43am
RE: I respectfully disagree. This isn't about just last year, specifically for BYU.
2FarGone
7/19/18 11:54am
RE: I respectfully disagree. This isn't about just last year, specifically for
TheLoneCougar
7/19/18 11:59am
What have we done in the last 10 years? 15 years?
Coug
7/19/18 12:06pm
You are agreeing with a logical fallacy
2FarGone
7/19/18 12:42pm
That was clearly not the case in 2011
Coug
7/19/18 1:31pm
I think you are confusing correlation with causation. Sometimes
SUAVO
7/19/18 5:12pm
And you are seeing what the BIG10 did and equating that with every other P5.
TheLoneCougar
7/20/18 7:49am
BYU's issues have zero to do with Indy and everything to do with injuries to key
CougarBacker
7/19/18 12:38pm
Please read more carefully:
TheLoneCougar
7/20/18 7:46am
I did read it and you're wrong
CougarBacker
7/20/18 9:43am
After September, nobody cares what BYU does because conference play is in full swing...
Coug
7/20/18 10:05am
LOL and if BYU was in the MWC, nobody would care about them before September
CougarBacker
7/20/18 11:59am
And that's why BYU needs to join the AAC.
Coug
7/20/18 12:45pm
I might be convinced on the AAC thing depending on TV contracts
CougarBacker
7/20/18 1:11pm
When BYU was in its height...remind me what conferences we played in?
TheLoneCougar
7/20/18 12:48pm
For some reason you think that the old MWC/WAC and the CFB landscape is the same
CougarBacker
7/20/18 1:13pm
No it really hasn't changed much at all.
TheLoneCougar
7/20/18 1:41pm
LOL you can't be serious right? Please tell me you're not serious? I really
CougarBacker
7/20/18 1:50pm
This is like the 5th time you've said I am wrong at something without
TheLoneCougar
7/20/18 9:19pm
LOL you have not provided a single fact. Perhaps you should look up that word
CougarBacker
7/20/18 11:57pm
Feel free to elaborate. How can I be wrong when we both agree?
TheLoneCougar
7/20/18 12:44pm
I don't think Indy is the leading cause of the problem. I think the leading
CougarBacker
7/20/18 1:14pm
All of which happen to every school, every year.
TheLoneCougar
7/20/18 1:46pm
Exactly! That's why it has zero to do with Indy and everything to do with us.
CougarBacker
7/20/18 1:53pm
How is this your point. Once again I don't think you understand what I am saying
TheLoneCougar
7/20/18 9:26pm
I told you several posts ago, this is a pointless conversation. I want BYU to
CougarBacker
7/21/18 12:00am
Just like they competed last year? Just like they will compete this year?
TheLoneCougar
7/23/18 8:04am
Like I said, luckily BYU admin isn't in the business of quitting like some of
CougarBacker
7/23/18 10:43am
Hypothetical here:
TheLoneCougar
7/23/18 11:57am
LOL at people who think going back to the MWC magically changes our results
CougarBacker
7/23/18 12:30pm
Once again, you prove you cannot read and comprehend what I have said.
TheLoneCougar
7/23/18 12:50pm
LOL at you saying I don't read and comprehend, but then follow it up with
CougarBacker
7/23/18 1:31pm
I own a business, and no I wouldn't do that with business.
TheLoneCougar
7/23/18 2:09pm
I don't believe you but if you do actually own a business, you would have to be
CougarBacker
7/23/18 2:18pm
As an owner, I don't placate to a few whiny customers.
TheLoneCougar
7/23/18 2:54pm
The question you're asking is a red herring and irrelevant in this discussion
CougarBacker
7/23/18 3:18pm
Your point has one falacy. BYU has decades of G5 "conference success".
BYUButters
7/23/18 12:08pm
Didn't help last time?
TheLoneCougar
7/23/18 12:48pm
And your point is irrelevant because that was a different landscape at the time
CougarBacker
7/23/18 1:35pm
I wasn't talking to you. I don't need to address your issues anymore. You
TheLoneCougar
7/23/18 1:59pm
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CougarBacker
7/23/18 2:02pm
RE: I wasn't talking to you. I don't need to address your issues anymore. You
CougarBacker
7/23/18 2:03pm
Because he's one of these fans that wants to shy away from competition in the
CougarBacker
7/23/18 1:34pm
I'm a realistic fan that says we are a ~60 recruiting class, regardless of what
TheLoneCougar
7/23/18 2:05pm
The problem is your "proof" is not proof, it's conjecture. You know the
CougarBacker
7/23/18 2:20pm
My proof is proof, which I said I would show if you'd like.
TheLoneCougar
7/23/18 2:58pm
None of those things are "proof" that Indy is the cause of it. It's conjecture
CougarBacker
7/23/18 3:19pm
PS- Being a realistic fan has nothing to do with it. Your realism sounds a lot
CougarBacker
7/23/18 2:21pm
UCF will never get in; here's why....
BYU Grounds
7/19/18 12:44pm
RE: Jake Trotter of ESPN was on 1280
CLCougar
7/19/18 8:39am
Sad, but nothing we didn't really already know/assume
AntiSNOT
7/19/18 3:37pm
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