I actually agree with you if the goal is simply weight loss. If the goal is

Feb 15, 2020
1:01:14pm

Odysseus All-American

health, performance, or body composition then exercise is much more important.

For me, weight gain or loss is low priority

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Feeling pretty depressed/confused about my weight and am looking for some advice

boorad

2/15/20 11:26am

You aren’t eating enough. It’s counterintuitive but eating more will help

deliciousmocha

2/15/20 11:29am

Try using this calculator

deliciousmocha

2/15/20 11:33am

My guess is you're consuming more than you think.

Grit for Brains

2/15/20 11:29am

Don’t eat after 9 pm and religiously count calories.

DKN

2/15/20 11:30am

Even if true, 1500 calories is ridiculously low for his height and weight

deliciousmocha

2/15/20 11:35am

Not necessarily. If he's getting electrolytes sodium / potassium his body will turn fat to fuel.

Grit for Brains

2/15/20 11:39am

Low caloric intake can put your body into starvation mode

deliciousmocha

2/15/20 11:50am

I don't think he needs to maximize his metabolism. He'll have a greater net deficit even in starvation mode.

Grit for Brains

2/15/20 12:57pm

Wow my metabolism has always been more more stable, predictable and

JmThms

2/15/20 11:33am

Try intermittent fasting. Read “The Obesity Code” by Jason Fung.

Dangerous

2/15/20 11:34am

Don’t do this.

BYU_Hoops

2/15/20 11:36am

Why not? Intermittent fasting has worked well for a number of people.

DKN

2/15/20 11:38am

Daily intermittent fasting is working for me. 12-16 hours every day.

JmThms

2/15/20 11:43am

Eating less calories works for everyone. No need to force it in any random

BYU_Hoops

2/15/20 11:45am

If it works as a habit and makes it easy to regulate how much you consume it is a great idea.

CDV

2/15/20 11:49am

Agreed.

BYU_Hoops

2/15/20 1:05pm

Yes, no magic to IF, it's just another form of calorie restriction, if it works

kolob32

2/15/20 11:49am

False. There's a lot more to intermittent fasting than just caloric reduction.

Conan

2/15/20 11:52am

Every health expert I follow disagrees with you. Not saying someone can't

kolob32

2/15/20 11:55am

I'm sorry, but they're wrong.

Conan

2/15/20 12:11pm

Ive heard the arguements and if there is any benefit, its negligible. Its just

kolob32

2/15/20 12:15pm

I thought the same thing until months ago.

Conan

2/15/20 12:19pm

WHEN meals are consumed is significant. So a 16 hour fast and eating in the

JmThms

2/15/20 1:02pm

You really should read “The Obesity Code” and the studies done on IF.

Dangerous

2/15/20 1:34pm

No he doesn’t. If you eat more than you expend your don’t lost weight.

BYU_Hoops

2/15/20 1:41pm

Yes he does.

DownFX

2/15/20 2:43pm

I agree with you on this. The literature I've read in it supports it and my own

JmThms

2/15/20 12:15pm

If you eat a LC pizza every day at noon and fast 23 hours a day

BYU_Hoops

2/15/20 1:08pm

True, but beside the point.

JmThms

2/15/20 4:21pm

Bro science at its finest.

BYU_Hoops

2/15/20 1:05pm

Dr. Fung backs up his claims with evidence based medicine from reputable medical journals.

Conan

2/15/20 4:28pm

Studies have shown WHEN you eat is important too.

JmThms

2/15/20 11:57am

Take those same calories, spread it out between six meals, 12, 24

BYU_Hoops

2/15/20 1:09pm

That’s not how it worked for me.

Druick

2/15/20 1:50pm

Negative. According to studies I have read that's not quite true.

JmThms

2/15/20 4:52pm

You’ve not “read” studies. Lol.

BYU_Hoops

2/15/20 5:48pm

Well good luck with your "answer". Lol.

JmThms

2/15/20 11:13pm

There’s plenty of research/evidence supporting IF.

deliciousmocha

2/15/20 11:56am

Your argument against IF is basically "it works as well as any other form of calorie restriction".

dilbert

2/15/20 12:04pm

Sorry, should say don’t do it if you believe it in and of itself

BYU_Hoops

2/15/20 1:10pm

I’ve seen great results from intermittent fasting

Druick

2/15/20 11:39am

If you’re losing weight then you’re eating less calories.

BYU_Hoops

2/15/20 11:44am

And IF makes it easier

Deleted

2/15/20 11:48am

First things first, progress is progress no matter how little so be happy for that. You could have gained weight too.

monkeycowboy

2/15/20 11:34am

Was going to say something similar, but this is excellent advice.

Hank Rearden

2/15/20 11:37am

Could also be water weight at weigh in time.

Mrs Featerbottom

2/15/20 11:40am

Great advice. Also, consider weekly averages for weight loss comparison

Drp

2/15/20 1:00pm

Your expectations are too high, 5 pds lost a week isn't sustainable or

kolob32

2/15/20 11:43am

Agree, but even with calorie basics, 2lbs is 7000 weekly deficit. Id say 1-2lbs a week is more attainable

Hank Rearden

2/15/20 11:48am

Gurus say shoot for 1% reduction in weight a week, like you say it's attainable

kolob32

2/15/20 11:51am

Dietary science is in a huge spat right now, but it's pretty clear that

Mises

2/15/20 11:52am

People don't like it, but you are dead on. I had similar results and felt better

Backcountry

2/15/20 11:57am

The food pyramid is fine.

BYU_Hoops

2/15/20 1:13pm

The trends in nutritional health suggest otherwise.

Mises

2/15/20 2:30pm

My advice is don't waste precious time with exercise. Exercise is for

Backcountry

2/15/20 11:55am

I’d say do the opposite. Exercise is much more important than diet. If you

Odysseus

2/15/20 12:27pm

Disagree completely.

Backcountry

2/15/20 12:52pm

I actually agree with you if the goal is simply weight loss. If the goal is

Odysseus

2/15/20 1:01pm

That makes sense. But the OP wants to drop weight fast. I suggested a simple,

Backcountry

2/15/20 1:14pm

You can be skinny without exercise. But you can't be healthy or even look good without exercise

Slim

2/15/20 3:17pm

Thats an accurate statement.

Backcountry

2/15/20 3:33pm

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Cougazul

2/15/20 3:40pm

My advice is excellent for an overweight individual who wants to shed pounds fas

Backcountry

2/15/20 3:49pm

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Cougazul

2/15/20 4:02pm

Absurd comparison.

Backcountry

2/15/20 4:32pm

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Cougazul

2/15/20 4:44pm

Do you know whats unhealthy? Obesity. Diabetes. Atherosclerosis. Fatty liver.

Backcountry

2/15/20 4:47pm

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Cougazul

2/15/20 4:51pm

Alright man.

Backcountry

2/15/20 4:53pm

The important thing is that you can’t do both diet and exercise.

shimmy

2/15/20 4:16pm

Curious how you're measuring body fat. If you are using a bathroom scale those

Tare

2/15/20 11:55am

This, if you're using a smart scale, don't believe the body fat % for a second.

Champ Kind

2/15/20 1:21pm

Take 3 days off from exercise and just focus on diet. Exercising actually increases your appetite and adds water weight

Probable Sacko

2/15/20 11:58am

You may be gaining muscle initially, which won’t register as weight loss.

Misteak

2/15/20 12:47pm

LOL at some of these ideas some have. You seriously need to be eating more.

GAINZ

2/15/20 2:13pm

Yep. Eat more if you want to get skinny.

Backcountry

2/15/20 2:35pm

Did I say "Eat 3000 calories a day to lose weight"? Of course not. But eating

GAINZ

2/15/20 3:06pm

I get it. My advice was great for someone who is generally interested in health

Backcountry

2/15/20 3:37pm

What did I just read? Diet and exercise are better than just diet. They don't

GAINZ

2/15/20 6:44pm

You do you gym bro

Backcountry

2/15/20 7:55pm

Eating is 100% the priority. Exercise is a nice to have, not a need to have.

BYU_Hoops

2/15/20 7:58pm

My experience with watches that track heart rate is that they way overestimate

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