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Feb 15, 2020
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Dangerous
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You really should read “The Obesity Code” and the studies done on IF.
The author completely debunks the calorie in / calorie out philosophy with studies that have a huge number of participants.
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Feeling pretty depressed/confused about my weight and am looking for some advice
boorad
2/15/20 11:26am
You aren’t eating enough. It’s counterintuitive but eating more will help
deliciousmocha
2/15/20 11:29am
Try using this calculator
deliciousmocha
2/15/20 11:33am
My guess is you're consuming more than you think.
Grit for Brains
2/15/20 11:29am
Don’t eat after 9 pm and religiously count calories.
DKN
2/15/20 11:30am
Even if true, 1500 calories is ridiculously low for his height and weight
deliciousmocha
2/15/20 11:35am
Not necessarily. If he's getting electrolytes sodium / potassium his body will turn fat to fuel.
Grit for Brains
2/15/20 11:39am
Low caloric intake can put your body into starvation mode
deliciousmocha
2/15/20 11:50am
I don't think he needs to maximize his metabolism. He'll have a greater net deficit even in starvation mode.
Grit for Brains
2/15/20 12:57pm
Wow my metabolism has always been more more stable, predictable and
JmThms
2/15/20 11:33am
Try intermittent fasting. Read “The Obesity Code” by Jason Fung.
Dangerous
2/15/20 11:34am
Don’t do this.
BYU_Hoops
2/15/20 11:36am
Why not? Intermittent fasting has worked well for a number of people.
DKN
2/15/20 11:38am
Daily intermittent fasting is working for me. 12-16 hours every day.
JmThms
2/15/20 11:43am
Eating less calories works for everyone. No need to force it in any random
BYU_Hoops
2/15/20 11:45am
If it works as a habit and makes it easy to regulate how much you consume it is a great idea.
CDV
2/15/20 11:49am
Agreed.
BYU_Hoops
2/15/20 1:05pm
Yes, no magic to IF, it's just another form of calorie restriction, if it works
kolob32
2/15/20 11:49am
False. There's a lot more to intermittent fasting than just caloric reduction.
Conan
2/15/20 11:52am
Every health expert I follow disagrees with you. Not saying someone can't
kolob32
2/15/20 11:55am
I'm sorry, but they're wrong.
Conan
2/15/20 12:11pm
Ive heard the arguements and if there is any benefit, its negligible. Its just
kolob32
2/15/20 12:15pm
I thought the same thing until months ago.
Conan
2/15/20 12:19pm
WHEN meals are consumed is significant. So a 16 hour fast and eating in the
JmThms
2/15/20 1:02pm
You really should read “The Obesity Code” and the studies done on IF.
Dangerous
2/15/20 1:34pm
No he doesn’t. If you eat more than you expend your don’t lost weight.
BYU_Hoops
2/15/20 1:41pm
Yes he does.
DownFX
2/15/20 2:43pm
I agree with you on this. The literature I've read in it supports it and my own
JmThms
2/15/20 12:15pm
If you eat a LC pizza every day at noon and fast 23 hours a day
BYU_Hoops
2/15/20 1:08pm
True, but beside the point.
JmThms
2/15/20 4:21pm
Bro science at its finest.
BYU_Hoops
2/15/20 1:05pm
Dr. Fung backs up his claims with evidence based medicine from reputable medical journals.
Conan
2/15/20 4:28pm
Studies have shown WHEN you eat is important too.
JmThms
2/15/20 11:57am
Take those same calories, spread it out between six meals, 12, 24
BYU_Hoops
2/15/20 1:09pm
That’s not how it worked for me.
Druick
2/15/20 1:50pm
Negative. According to studies I have read that's not quite true.
JmThms
2/15/20 4:52pm
You’ve not “read” studies. Lol.
BYU_Hoops
2/15/20 5:48pm
Well good luck with your "answer". Lol.
JmThms
2/15/20 11:13pm
There’s plenty of research/evidence supporting IF.
deliciousmocha
2/15/20 11:56am
Your argument against IF is basically "it works as well as any other form of calorie restriction".
dilbert
2/15/20 12:04pm
Sorry, should say don’t do it if you believe it in and of itself
BYU_Hoops
2/15/20 1:10pm
I’ve seen great results from intermittent fasting
Druick
2/15/20 11:39am
If you’re losing weight then you’re eating less calories.
BYU_Hoops
2/15/20 11:44am
And IF makes it easier
Deleted
2/15/20 11:48am
First things first, progress is progress no matter how little so be happy for that. You could have gained weight too.
monkeycowboy
2/15/20 11:34am
Was going to say something similar, but this is excellent advice.
Hank Rearden
2/15/20 11:37am
Could also be water weight at weigh in time.
Mrs Featerbottom
2/15/20 11:40am
Great advice. Also, consider weekly averages for weight loss comparison
Drp
2/15/20 1:00pm
Your expectations are too high, 5 pds lost a week isn't sustainable or
kolob32
2/15/20 11:43am
Agree, but even with calorie basics, 2lbs is 7000 weekly deficit. Id say 1-2lbs a week is more attainable
Hank Rearden
2/15/20 11:48am
Gurus say shoot for 1% reduction in weight a week, like you say it's attainable
kolob32
2/15/20 11:51am
Dietary science is in a huge spat right now, but it's pretty clear that
Mises
2/15/20 11:52am
People don't like it, but you are dead on. I had similar results and felt better
Backcountry
2/15/20 11:57am
The food pyramid is fine.
BYU_Hoops
2/15/20 1:13pm
The trends in nutritional health suggest otherwise.
Mises
2/15/20 2:30pm
My advice is don't waste precious time with exercise. Exercise is for
Backcountry
2/15/20 11:55am
I’d say do the opposite. Exercise is much more important than diet. If you
Odysseus
2/15/20 12:27pm
Disagree completely.
Backcountry
2/15/20 12:52pm
I actually agree with you if the goal is simply weight loss. If the goal is
Odysseus
2/15/20 1:01pm
That makes sense. But the OP wants to drop weight fast. I suggested a simple,
Backcountry
2/15/20 1:14pm
You can be skinny without exercise. But you can't be healthy or even look good without exercise
Slim
2/15/20 3:17pm
Thats an accurate statement.
Backcountry
2/15/20 3:33pm
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Cougazul
2/15/20 3:40pm
My advice is excellent for an overweight individual who wants to shed pounds fas
Backcountry
2/15/20 3:49pm
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Cougazul
2/15/20 4:02pm
Absurd comparison.
Backcountry
2/15/20 4:32pm
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Cougazul
2/15/20 4:44pm
Do you know whats unhealthy? Obesity. Diabetes. Atherosclerosis. Fatty liver.
Backcountry
2/15/20 4:47pm
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Cougazul
2/15/20 4:51pm
Alright man.
Backcountry
2/15/20 4:53pm
The important thing is that you can’t do both diet and exercise.
shimmy
2/15/20 4:16pm
Curious how you're measuring body fat. If you are using a bathroom scale those
Tare
2/15/20 11:55am
This, if you're using a smart scale, don't believe the body fat % for a second.
Champ Kind
2/15/20 1:21pm
Take 3 days off from exercise and just focus on diet. Exercising actually increases your appetite and adds water weight
Probable Sacko
2/15/20 11:58am
You may be gaining muscle initially, which won’t register as weight loss.
Misteak
2/15/20 12:47pm
LOL at some of these ideas some have. You seriously need to be eating more.
GAINZ
2/15/20 2:13pm
Yep. Eat more if you want to get skinny.
Backcountry
2/15/20 2:35pm
Did I say "Eat 3000 calories a day to lose weight"? Of course not. But eating
GAINZ
2/15/20 3:06pm
I get it. My advice was great for someone who is generally interested in health
Backcountry
2/15/20 3:37pm
What did I just read? Diet and exercise are better than just diet. They don't
GAINZ
2/15/20 6:44pm
You do you gym bro
Backcountry
2/15/20 7:55pm
Eating is 100% the priority. Exercise is a nice to have, not a need to have.
BYU_Hoops
2/15/20 7:58pm
My experience with watches that track heart rate is that they way overestimate
stlcougs
2/15/20 2:15pm
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