Agreed. That's why the 5 person rule was created.

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Sep 15, 2016
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These new ROC rules really bug. Way too defined, kills some of the game week fun

ColdFusion1989

9/14/16 10:57pm

But if there aren't enough rules BYU won't be special anymore.

Nakedbootleg

9/14/16 11:02pm

Oh trust me, it'll be plenty special.... Teach the people true principles

ColdFusion1989

9/14/16 11:06pm

Exactly. Principles. No tents goes beyond a rule and teaches a principle

Preppy

9/14/16 11:15pm

No tents or cots has been a rule for football forever - the fire marshall won't

molodyets

9/14/16 11:45pm

Yeah, because we need that fire escape open for the 63k people trying to empty

StalwartBraveTrue

9/15/16 7:39am

Take that up with the fire marshall

molodyets

9/15/16 8:04am

That's the point. A complete lack of common sense among thise in authiroty

StalwartBraveTrue

9/15/16 8:17am

If you can't follow the small rules how will you learn to follow the 'big' rules

kotacoug

9/14/16 11:19pm

Are single creepy graduated men still allowed? TNT?

RealityCheck

9/15/16 10:51am

They all seem reasonable to me, but maybe that means I'm old.

KingDave

9/14/16 11:04pm

They aren't unreasonable. They take away from what it was.

ColdFusion1989

9/14/16 11:08pm

What about going to class? Or work? Or dates?

KingDave

9/14/16 11:09pm

Exactly. One person could hold down the fort for a bunch of people.

ColdFusion1989

9/15/16 6:46am

It's mostly because students were complaining they had to camp all week

MwangoleCoug9

9/14/16 11:12pm

That's great, but the camping tradition was creating an awesome atmosphere.

ColdFusion1989

9/15/16 6:55am

The biggest issue was NCMO increased by 13.6%....

BlueForLife

9/15/16 7:30am

There has to be a happy medium. And thats why they are constantly trying to

MwangoleCoug9

9/15/16 9:26am

Who's complaining? This sounds like students want front row without the

StalwartBraveTrue

9/15/16 1:07pm

Happy medium between students, the community, and the police

MwangoleCoug9

9/15/16 3:24pm

So they make it so more people can camp and you're mad? And the neighborhood is

molodyets

9/14/16 11:26pm

Which rules are new & terrible?

cougXor

9/14/16 11:06pm

I don't like the idea of having to get a line pass. Show up with your ROC pass

Duke Silver

9/14/16 11:08pm

^^^ This is how it was.

ColdFusion1989

9/14/16 11:16pm

RE: I don't like the idea of having to get a line pass. Show up with your ROC

BackInNam

9/15/16 1:26pm

The line pass is similar to what Duke dies for bball. I don't have a problem

StalwartBraveTrue

9/15/16 1:45pm

You are reading wayyyyyy too much into this.

molodyets

9/15/16 1:56pm

Probably right. 30 yrs of this sort of stuff makes me a bit sensitive.

StalwartBraveTrue

9/15/16 6:01pm

Stop complaining, in my day you couldn't even have a line. Get off my lawn!

OldCosmo

9/14/16 11:09pm

So is there no camping anymore?

BYUCoug11

9/14/16 11:09pm

Only the one night before

YIsForBrigham

9/14/16 11:38pm

BYU doing what BYU does. Hyper-regulate......

Bonoman

9/14/16 11:44pm

BYU loves to over complicate things and don't seem to understand that some peopl

IceCreamButt

9/14/16 11:48pm

Literally lol

Rooney

9/15/16 3:55am

IIRC, it was all outside and it was snowing as well. Absolute mess.

SWKTDweller

9/15/16 6:15am

Yep, and it was that heavy wet snow too.

IceCreamButt

9/15/16 11:50am

Lines are a good thing! People love being die hard! Way more fun!

ColdFusion1989

9/15/16 6:45am

Don't forget the senseless groupings before the game outside the MC

dchandle15

9/15/16 9:15am

Yeah idk what they were thinking, when I heard about it I knew immedistely it

IceCreamButt

9/15/16 11:51am

Perfect example. Up to that point camping out had been working fine, so they

Champ Kind

9/15/16 10:09am

I am wondering if they were responding to complaints from students who were mad

IceCreamButt

9/15/16 11:54am

Lol, dude, these are way better.

LaVellIfIKnow

9/14/16 11:50pm

RE: These new ROC rules really bug. Way too defined, kills some of the game week

ARCoug

9/15/16 4:35am

These rules are meant to prepare you to shop at Best Buy on Black Friday. #moses

ryebrye

9/15/16 5:08am

Hopefully this will rotate out some of the goofy 35 year old students we always

Cougarpolis

9/15/16 5:10am

Wow, I'd fire whomever came up with these rules

OGSuperfan

9/15/16 5:17am

That's what the pro tips are for. It makes it sound laid back. Ha ha

ColdFusion1989

9/15/16 6:49am

It was actually all the students over 3 years that came up with these rules.

BackInNam

9/15/16 1:31pm

Not seeing anything too crazy or restrictive there... What's the issue?

BYUtka

9/15/16 6:39am

You know how the Jews missed the mark being overly focused on minor details?

ColdFusion1989

9/15/16 7:11am

Yes, Jews = The ROC

nukeduker

9/15/16 7:17am

No, ROC = Mormons. ROC board (I assume) = Jewish high priests of old

ColdFusion1989

9/15/16 7:28am

I'm old...and I think they all make sense. Of course I don't want to camp for a

whiteninja

9/15/16 7:12am

Is it normal to force students dressed in opposing colors to the back?

lilpenny

9/15/16 7:16am

Actual there were some BYU fans front row of the MUSS last Saturday.

ColdFusion1989

9/15/16 7:19am

Usually other schools verify student status by ID and then do nothing-

RedlandsCoug

9/15/16 7:30am

"The playbook" was far worse. That and the flash mob tutorial were probably the

RedlandsCoug

9/15/16 7:19am

These do sound reasonable

Heath Squashwell

9/15/16 7:22am

As someone who helped make these rules....

smoqueed

9/15/16 10:17am

The main worry from students is ROC board members

sidsie716

9/15/16 11:29am

RE: The main worry from students is ROC board members

smoqueed

9/15/16 1:04pm

Valid worry. But the students have designed a safeguard for that as well:

BackInNam

9/15/16 1:35pm

I was unaware of that part, I like it though!

sidsie716

9/15/16 1:40pm

That seems like a good guideline and a sign of good leadership.

BYUtka

9/15/16 6:35pm

Here's the thing. Students love student-led initiatives. They love how the whole process evolved over time.

Sir Hammer

9/15/16 11:33am

RE: Here's the thing. Students love student-led initiatives. They love how the

smoqueed

9/15/16 1:06pm

Amen to this ^^

ColdFusion1989

9/15/16 2:56pm

I appreciate the clarification, but do some PR work with it!

ColdFusion1989

9/15/16 2:53pm

Seems a bit like Satan Plan if you ask me

RJCOD

9/15/16 11:01am

Exhibit A that some Cbers will whine about ANYTHING done by BYU.

Cougar Insider

9/15/16 11:56am

Only problem I had with the ROC line was people saving spots for seemingly their entire ward.

jsohsimth

9/15/16 1:01pm

Agreed. That's why the 5 person rule was created.

smoqueed

9/15/16 1:07pm

Duke has similar rules (differs for undergrad and grad students)

djbryant79

9/15/16 1:02pm

Looks a lot like what Gonzaga does

CougarVeteran

9/15/16 1:31pm

After years of student feedback, Gonzaga's rules did serve as inspiration...

BackInNam

9/15/16 1:37pm

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