Probably right. 30 yrs of this sort of stuff makes me a bit sensitive.

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Sep 15, 2016
6:01:53pm

StalwartBraveTrue All-American

Probably right. 30 yrs of this sort of stuff makes me a bit sensitive.

I'm just still bitter about the tailgating issues and the neutering of the ROC in the MC and the general apathy/disdain for developing a college football atmosphere. I've lived in some of the best college towns and I realized it requires some amount of buy-in and support from admin. It can't be an after-thought. Imagine driving into LES and the fence on both sides of university is hopping with tailgaters doin their thing. It would enhance the experience for all except those who complain about parking spots. Lame reason to kill the experience.

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These new ROC rules really bug. Way too defined, kills some of the game week fun

9/14/16 10:57pm

But if there aren't enough rules BYU won't be special anymore.

Nakedbootleg

9/14/16 11:02pm

Oh trust me, it'll be plenty special.... Teach the people true principles

9/14/16 11:06pm

Exactly. Principles. No tents goes beyond a rule and teaches a principle

Preppy

9/14/16 11:15pm

No tents or cots has been a rule for football forever - the fire marshall won't

molodyets

9/14/16 11:45pm

Yeah, because we need that fire escape open for the 63k people trying to empty

StalwartBraveTrue

9/15/16 7:39am

Take that up with the fire marshall

molodyets

9/15/16 8:04am

That's the point. A complete lack of common sense among thise in authiroty

StalwartBraveTrue

9/15/16 8:17am

If you can't follow the small rules how will you learn to follow the 'big' rules

kotacoug

9/14/16 11:19pm

Are single creepy graduated men still allowed? TNT?

9/15/16 10:51am

They all seem reasonable to me, but maybe that means I'm old.

KingDave

9/14/16 11:04pm

They aren't unreasonable. They take away from what it was.

9/14/16 11:08pm

What about going to class? Or work? Or dates?

KingDave

9/14/16 11:09pm

Exactly. One person could hold down the fort for a bunch of people.

9/15/16 6:46am

It's mostly because students were complaining they had to camp all week

9/14/16 11:12pm

That's great, but the camping tradition was creating an awesome atmosphere.

9/15/16 6:55am

The biggest issue was NCMO increased by 13.6%....

BlueForLife

9/15/16 7:30am

There has to be a happy medium. And thats why they are constantly trying to

9/15/16 9:26am

Who's complaining? This sounds like students want front row without the

StalwartBraveTrue

9/15/16 1:07pm

Happy medium between students, the community, and the police

9/15/16 3:24pm

So they make it so more people can camp and you're mad? And the neighborhood is

molodyets

9/14/16 11:26pm

Which rules are new & terrible?

cougXor

9/14/16 11:06pm

I don't like the idea of having to get a line pass. Show up with your ROC pass

Duke Silver

9/14/16 11:08pm

^^^ This is how it was.

9/14/16 11:16pm

RE: I don't like the idea of having to get a line pass. Show up with your ROC

BackInNam

9/15/16 1:26pm

The line pass is similar to what Duke dies for bball. I don't have a problem

StalwartBraveTrue

9/15/16 1:45pm

You are reading wayyyyyy too much into this.

molodyets

9/15/16 1:56pm

Probably right. 30 yrs of this sort of stuff makes me a bit sensitive.

StalwartBraveTrue

9/15/16 6:01pm

Stop complaining, in my day you couldn't even have a line. Get off my lawn!

OldCosmo

9/14/16 11:09pm

So is there no camping anymore?

BYUCoug11

9/14/16 11:09pm

Only the one night before

9/14/16 11:38pm

BYU doing what BYU does. Hyper-regulate......

Bonoman

9/14/16 11:44pm

BYU loves to over complicate things and don't seem to understand that some peopl

9/14/16 11:48pm

Literally lol

Rooney

9/15/16 3:55am

IIRC, it was all outside and it was snowing as well. Absolute mess.

SWKTDweller

9/15/16 6:15am

Yep, and it was that heavy wet snow too.

9/15/16 11:50am

Lines are a good thing! People love being die hard! Way more fun!

9/15/16 6:45am

Don't forget the senseless groupings before the game outside the MC

dchandle15

9/15/16 9:15am

Yeah idk what they were thinking, when I heard about it I knew immedistely it

9/15/16 11:51am

Perfect example. Up to that point camping out had been working fine, so they

Champ Kind

9/15/16 10:09am

I am wondering if they were responding to complaints from students who were mad

9/15/16 11:54am

Lol, dude, these are way better.

9/14/16 11:50pm

RE: These new ROC rules really bug. Way too defined, kills some of the game week

ARCoug

9/15/16 4:35am

These rules are meant to prepare you to shop at Best Buy on Black Friday. #moses

ryebrye

9/15/16 5:08am

Hopefully this will rotate out some of the goofy 35 year old students we always

Cougarpolis

9/15/16 5:10am

Wow, I'd fire whomever came up with these rules

OGSuperfan

9/15/16 5:17am

That's what the pro tips are for. It makes it sound laid back. Ha ha

9/15/16 6:49am

It was actually all the students over 3 years that came up with these rules.

BackInNam

9/15/16 1:31pm

Not seeing anything too crazy or restrictive there... What's the issue?

BYUtka

9/15/16 6:39am

You know how the Jews missed the mark being overly focused on minor details?

9/15/16 7:11am

Yes, Jews = The ROC

nukeduker

9/15/16 7:17am

No, ROC = Mormons. ROC board (I assume) = Jewish high priests of old

9/15/16 7:28am

I'm old...and I think they all make sense. Of course I don't want to camp for a

whiteninja

9/15/16 7:12am

Is it normal to force students dressed in opposing colors to the back?

lilpenny

9/15/16 7:16am

Actual there were some BYU fans front row of the MUSS last Saturday.

9/15/16 7:19am

Usually other schools verify student status by ID and then do nothing-

RedlandsCoug

9/15/16 7:30am

"The playbook" was far worse. That and the flash mob tutorial were probably the

RedlandsCoug

9/15/16 7:19am

These do sound reasonable

Heath Squashwell

9/15/16 7:22am

As someone who helped make these rules....

smoqueed

9/15/16 10:17am

The main worry from students is ROC board members

sidsie716

9/15/16 11:29am

RE: The main worry from students is ROC board members

smoqueed

9/15/16 1:04pm

Valid worry. But the students have designed a safeguard for that as well:

BackInNam

9/15/16 1:35pm

I was unaware of that part, I like it though!

sidsie716

9/15/16 1:40pm

That seems like a good guideline and a sign of good leadership.

BYUtka

9/15/16 6:35pm

Here's the thing. Students love student-led initiatives. They love how the whole process evolved over time.

Sir Hammer

9/15/16 11:33am

RE: Here's the thing. Students love student-led initiatives. They love how the

smoqueed

9/15/16 1:06pm

Amen to this ^^

9/15/16 2:56pm

I appreciate the clarification, but do some PR work with it!

9/15/16 2:53pm

Seems a bit like Satan Plan if you ask me

RJCOD

9/15/16 11:01am

Exhibit A that some Cbers will whine about ANYTHING done by BYU.

9/15/16 11:56am

Only problem I had with the ROC line was people saving spots for seemingly their entire ward.

jsohsimth

9/15/16 1:01pm

Agreed. That's why the 5 person rule was created.

smoqueed

9/15/16 1:07pm

Duke has similar rules (differs for undergrad and grad students)

djbryant79

9/15/16 1:02pm

Looks a lot like what Gonzaga does

9/15/16 1:31pm

After years of student feedback, Gonzaga's rules did serve as inspiration...

BackInNam

9/15/16 1:37pm

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