The externality only exists because the price is wrong

May 27, 2019
5:12:47am

05COUG 3rd String

If parking were not free, the externality would vanish. The government demanding that parking be provided “free” is creating the problem, not solving it.

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05COUG

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My question about new building is how cities can keep approving High Density

BYUtka

5/26/19 6:06pm

This is the biggest issue we have with townhouses in our area.

blackandblue

5/26/19 6:13pm

they are trying to push people toward walking, biking, scootering

Iman23

5/26/19 6:15pm

0% chance car ownership goes away in 10 years.

ThetaSigma

5/26/19 6:19pm

Uber and Lyft. That should help remove a lot of cars from campus.

demon_llama

5/26/19 8:38pm

People are still believing in the Elon balogna

CSoul

5/26/19 6:46pm

Have a sibling living in Travers Mountain area. townhouse. Had people over after

777

5/26/19 6:17pm

You should see the new apartments and homes in American Fork. I'm shocked at how

Hypnotoad

5/26/19 6:21pm

It's always interesting to read Utahans complain about traffic.

HarlemCoug

5/26/19 6:21pm

Surely not as bad as Houston, but it's gotten noticably worse over the last

Hypnotoad

5/26/19 6:23pm

And by Houston, I mean Harlem, or wherever you live.

Hypnotoad

5/26/19 6:23pm

I agree. Utah has been going through an awkward phase.

Nathanael Greene

5/26/19 6:28pm

Non rush hour times used to be smooth sailing. Now it doesn't matter what time

777

5/26/19 6:31pm

Between work and Jazz games seems like you spend a good portion of your week

TNT

5/26/19 6:28pm

Sticker shock. I got a great deal on my home and my interest rate is 3.65.

Hypnotoad

5/26/19 6:32pm

Ah. Superkid is right. SLC-Provo corridor is getting too crowded

TNT

5/26/19 6:32pm

Yeah. I could go the other direction and get a great deal on a home in Eagle

Hypnotoad

5/26/19 6:35pm

The point is that Utah County parking should not be a problem. Yet it is

Cougarrr

5/26/19 6:23pm

Why shouldn't parking be a problem? Parking/traffic is the ultimate urban planning problem. The most often repeated

HarlemCoug

5/26/19 6:29pm

The problem is that people buy these units before they know there is going to

BostonCougar

5/26/19 6:41pm

Not traffic. Parking... Or specifically the irresponsible lack of parking in new

BYUtka

5/26/19 7:11pm

He's talking about parking. With traffic, people are in the car.

ochobeeguy

5/26/19 7:50pm

It's a problem. In cities like NYC you have viable mass transit

kccougar

5/26/19 10:26pm

I disagree that limited parking is a problem.

05COUG

5/26/19 6:23pm

To answer your last question

jkccoug

5/26/19 9:13pm

The externality only exists because the price is wrong

05COUG

5/27/19 5:12am

Not really

jkccoug

5/27/19 7:26am

Wrong. At my brother’s place in Vineyard they are charging for parking now and

BYUtka

5/27/19 8:28am

when you take 'muh free mahrket' to extremes

Dissenter

5/27/19 1:10pm

NINE PER CENT PARKING**

royal_blue

5/26/19 6:34pm

The developers have effectively taken over the planning commissions in several

BostonCougar

5/26/19 6:39pm

Seems like at some point suburbs (and cities planned like suburbs) transition to high-density cities, if

mik3

5/26/19 6:48pm

Eventually growing cities have to add density

spinner

5/26/19 7:40pm

Yeah, SLC proper is currently getting ruined. They are pushing all families out.

8man

5/26/19 7:03pm

They would become San Francisco or Seattle if the State let them.

AF Cougar

5/26/19 8:07pm

NIMBY stuff is how you get San Francisco or Seattle.

mik3

5/26/19 8:19pm

Ruin the Vineyard area?

BYU'01

5/26/19 9:43pm

And that is not the problem. The irresponsible lack of parking is.

BYUtka

5/26/19 9:48pm

The problem in Vineyard (at least in the high density areas) is that

villares

5/27/19 2:44am

I hope that is true... even still two per is half the amount that should have

BYUtka

5/27/19 8:33am

You have to look at it from a $$$ perspective. Parking spots make $0 for

UberDeek

5/27/19 8:42am

Yes, I noted that in the OP. I know why they don’t put in a sufficient amount.

BYUtka

5/27/19 8:52am

So, when developers are forced to make a profit from fewer units being built

UberDeek

5/27/19 8:58am

The customer is already suffering... unnecessarily. Developers would adjust

BYUtka

5/27/19 9:16am

Ok... Let me state this once again. If a developer has 5 acres of land and the

UberDeek

5/27/19 9:44am

I am not just blaming the developers.The City Councils are just as much to blame

BYUtka

5/27/19 11:54am

High density housing is fine, so long as it is in areas where people who live

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