I don't think of BYU as a pariah either,

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Jun 27, 2019
12:14:01pm

Still Questing All-American

I don't think of BYU as a pariah either,

but if we're picking an at-large NY6 team (which is the pool BYU would be in), and it comes down to an 11-1 BYU team that beat no teams in the top 25 (my hypothetical scenario, and a possible scenario for sure) and a 10-2 SEC team that beat multiple Top 25 teams but didn't make the SEC title game, I think I'm going to say odds are the SEC team is a better team from a mathematical viewpoint.

There are only so many slots for NY6 teams. I think it's reasonable to think that an 11-1 BYU team isn't a lock for the NY6 unless some of those 11 teams (and the 1 loss) end the season ranked in the top 25. Hopefully some of those teams finish strong.

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Seems like many have forgotten or are too young to remember Independence Day

Mister P

6/26/19 12:49pm

Cool exhibition game schedules do not excite

CallingDingo

6/26/19 12:52pm

Playing for a meaningless conf title and the chance to play a P5 team at the end of the year is better than playing 4+

6/26/19 12:57pm

Conference titles are not meaningless

CallingDingo

6/26/19 1:00pm

Different football world.

O Gaucho

6/26/19 1:04pm

Oh I get it

CallingDingo

6/26/19 1:14pm

They only hold whatever meaning we assign them...

CoachSpeak

6/26/19 1:05pm

That's basically all of sports.

ekiben

6/26/19 11:43pm

They absolutely are. I dont care about participation trophies for beating Tulane or Wyoming. Now that BYU is trying to

6/26/19 1:08pm

Totally meaningless in today’s college football

jes2332

6/26/19 1:12pm

Bingo...winner of the losers bracket

BYUButters

6/27/19 12:01am

It is meaningless in the sense it doesn’t guarantee anything or net BYU any gain

gww687

6/26/19 2:08pm

Ok... it's meaningless... great... so what does BYU net right now?

Coug

6/26/19 2:09pm

Better schedule, not have to be in the sucky MWC, better TV

jes2332

6/26/19 2:17pm

Better schedule? Boise State had a better SOS than us last year... Navy had a better SOS than us...

Coug

6/26/19 2:39pm

Boise did, barely. Neither Navy or any other AAC team had better SOS. Link below

here's to hoping

6/26/19 3:54pm

Here's what I used....

Coug

6/26/19 3:59pm

Navy was the only AAC team with a better schedule than BYU last year

6/26/19 4:44pm

Why are you saying MWC, nobody is talking about the MWC, heck even INDY is

blackshirts

6/26/19 6:16pm

A guaranteed trip to the Hawaii Bowl!!!! Hooray!!!

Truerblue

6/26/19 2:20pm

It's not guaranteed by any stretch

BYU Fan

6/26/19 2:22pm

BYU is the G5 🏆 "Most P5 Games Champs" 🏆 With a 81 and 61 SOS the last

blackshirts

6/26/19 3:24pm

How many Ny6 games did we win in the MWC? I love how the assumption is we would start going to and winning them

6/26/19 3:26pm

No, but you'd have a much higher chance than the current proven track.

blackshirts

6/26/19 3:30pm

Please explain how BYU's chances would increase significantly in a G5 conference

Byron McNertney

6/26/19 4:06pm

It's not significant but BYU could still loss one or two games, win the

blackshirts

6/26/19 4:18pm

9 years ago, college football changed. We didn't catch a ride and neither did

here's to hoping

6/26/19 4:09pm

Once there was a cfp conference titles became meaningless. Ranking and quality

travelcoug

6/26/19 2:33pm

Bingo

BYUButters

6/27/19 12:03am

They are if it's with the mediocre MWC or ACC. It's like getting a high school

Jasbo

6/26/19 4:20pm

This is total crap!!!!!!!!!!!!

blackshirts

6/26/19 6:34pm

The only "crap" are the teams in the G5. Win or lose, I'd rather witness games

Jasbo

6/26/19 10:18pm

*G5

Jasbo

6/26/19 10:27pm

Check SOS of AAC teams vs BYU. BYU was 61 2018, 81, 2017.

blackshirts

6/27/19 7:49am

By the way, the post wasn't about playing USC, it was about playing many

Jasbo

6/26/19 10:25pm

You do realize that having a conference championship allows you to play one more

Truerblue

6/26/19 2:45pm

Cool. Not being in the MWC means i dont have to go to games in ABQ or Laramie. It also means i can have 3 p5 teams

6/26/19 3:01pm

Those should be fun games if you're a BYU fan.... (sarcasm intented)

Truerblue

6/26/19 3:41pm

And AAC does?

JohnnyComeLately

6/26/19 2:41pm

This isn't the NFL. Every game counts in college, which is why it's much better

6/26/19 5:22pm

They want individual player awards voted by coaches and media that couldn't care

BlackBart

6/26/19 12:53pm

We play UMASS, Tennessee and USF 2000 miles away this year and for what again?

Coug

6/26/19 12:57pm

for football

Belboz

6/26/19 1:02pm

Go follow USU if you want to watch a local G5 team play other inter region g5 teams. Ive gone the rounds with you on

6/26/19 1:09pm

Cause I don't want us to be Independent and feel we should play teams more at out level...

Coug

6/26/19 1:26pm

Yessir! I say we take your defeatist attitude and vote ya off the island. You and your cow lovin friends can go have

6/26/19 1:31pm

Fine by me at this point... I really don't want to be associated with BYU fans at the moment... vote a way

Coug

6/26/19 1:37pm

A little thin skinned aren't ya?

bushy7

6/26/19 1:48pm

The arrogance, the myopic utopia view of our current situation is simply nauseating

Coug

6/26/19 2:08pm

Sounds like a bandwagon fan to me

archie

6/26/19 2:51pm

Oh well

Coug

6/26/19 2:55pm

Arrogant BYU fans like this reaffirm my decision to cheer for the Aggies now!

Truerblue

6/26/19 2:26pm

Sounds like a party. Glad you enjoy ogden.

6/26/19 2:34pm

Better than Lehi....

Truerblue

6/26/19 2:35pm

No it isn't...

CoachSpeak

6/26/19 2:41pm

Maybe if all the BYU fans lived there you could make that argument

puntersarepeople

6/26/19 4:04pm

Just for the record... Aggie fans can be pretty dang arrogant as well... and they've got 2 seasons in 20 years...

Coug

6/26/19 2:45pm

Yes, yes they can be. I used to cheer for BYU, I went to school at USU and

Truerblue

6/26/19 2:57pm

How many games do you get to watch on facebook or on construction cam this year? 😂😂😂

6/26/19 3:02pm

It really does!! It's fun to cheer for a winning team. If I were a BYU fan I

Truerblue

6/26/19 3:36pm

Talk about arrogance

puntersarepeople

6/26/19 4:06pm

Who cares how big the fanbase is? USU is currently higher in all the stats that

Truerblue

6/26/19 4:14pm

Hmmm... And yet, here you are, on a BYU fan site. Shouldn't you be celebrating

Emmett Fitz-Hume

6/26/19 4:47pm

so USU has several "firsts" against BYU in the past couple of years and all of

BlueSioux

6/26/19 4:58pm

The team that can’t get any games on TV? 😂😉

puntersarepeople

6/27/19 10:47am

And I’m sure I can speak for most BYU fans when I say “glad you’re gone”...

CoachSpeak

6/26/19 5:01pm

the only reason you go through fewer tissues than him is your abundance of socks

Belboz

6/27/19 10:10am

You need help!

blackshirts

6/27/19 12:15pm

I want to win games and if it takes "little man football" (We aren't P5 so we

AlphaCoug

6/26/19 8:05pm

So we don’t have to play Wyoming in Laramie and

kotacoug

6/26/19 1:21pm

but it isn't every other year and those are worthwhile destinations

BlackBart

6/26/19 1:22pm

Because Tennessee and USF are very good programs

puntersarepeople

6/26/19 2:38pm

Far from a great feeling... it was a feeling of desperation...

Coug

6/26/19 12:56pm

Wrong. It WAS a great feeling to leave the MWC!

BYURider

6/26/19 1:02pm

No it wasn't. We saw hallucinations while Utah went to a P5.

Iki_Balam

6/26/19 2:25pm

It was real to me! I also believe in placebo medicine!

BYURider

6/26/19 6:22pm

Independent BYU gets a full one-third of their P5 opponents to show up in Provo

Indy Coug

6/26/19 12:57pm

Are you saying we don't get P5 opponents in Provo? I don't follow.

rggee

6/26/19 1:21pm

Indy Coug, you are right about past games but not going forward.

Coogar2

6/26/19 3:29pm

It was a great day

BYU Fan

6/26/19 1:00pm

I honestly think we should have stayed.

Iki_Balam

6/26/19 2:30pm

It was a refreshing rationalization and reaction to Utah Joining the P12

newbie

6/26/19 1:05pm

It was the same feeling as hiring Detmer. Cool! and what? at the same time.

mudpupper

6/26/19 1:23pm

AMEN! MWC game stunk, traveling to watch those away games stunk & bowls stunk

BallisLife

6/26/19 1:50pm

I get to watch Utah, USC, Washington and Boise St. in Provo, in person this year

Coogar2

6/26/19 2:08pm

I dont miss the seething one-tooth drunks of Wyoming

Iki_Balam

6/26/19 2:32pm

Independence was a knee-jerk reaction to Utah moving up

shakarocks

6/26/19 2:46pm

Independence was the right thing to do.

BlueFever

6/26/19 8:39pm

You seem convinced... So, explain to me what INDY has done for BYU FB and BB

blackshirts

6/26/19 9:10pm

Are you trying to tell me that BYU would've been better had they stayed in the

BlueFever

6/26/19 9:21pm

Somebody please explain to me how an 11-1 Independent BYU

BlueFever

6/27/19 11:42am

Certainly could if none of those 11 have good seasons. It's not unheard of for

6/27/19 11:47am

I don't buy it. BYU isn't that much of a pariah.

BlueFever

6/27/19 11:55am

I don't think of BYU as a pariah either,

6/27/19 12:14pm

This one's easy

shakarocks

6/27/19 12:06pm

EXPOSURE!!!!!!

shakarocks

6/27/19 7:42am

I think the right thing to do was get into the BIG12 at all cost instead of

blackshirts

6/26/19 8:56pm

The only chance BYU gets a P5 invite is if the church gets out of the school.

BlueFever

6/27/19 11:45am

There was talk about going independent back in 1997 and even before that.

Byron McNertney

6/26/19 9:00pm

Two words: Sunk Costs

memento

6/26/19 3:47pm

RE: Seems like many have forgotten or are too young to remember Independence Day

WJCougar

6/26/19 3:57pm

I doubt anyone on CB was alive, let alone can remember July 4, 1776

puntersarepeople

6/26/19 4:08pm

MWC without Utah and TCU and getting screwed in third tier game rights.

PJMort

6/26/19 4:48pm

We've always had a couple good P5 opponents for decades. Imo, people w/ this

MatthiasG

6/26/19 6:31pm

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