The Pac-12 was "never an option" for BYU. BYU never even received a "courtesy

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Aug 14, 2019
11:13:10pm

Ute in DC Playmaker

The Pac-12 was "never an option" for BYU. BYU never even received a "courtesy

call." -Tom Holmoe

Holmoe on Conference Membership:

Tom Holmoe admits he avoided the topics of conference realignment and the future of the rivalry with Utah in recent weeks, but it was a different story Friday as Holmoe answered dozens of questions on the issues in an hour-and-a-half session with radio and print media.

https://www.ksl.com/article/11601170/holmoe-on-conference-membership-ongoing-conversations

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Ute in DC

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Pac-10 wanted BYU with Utah ... 2 simple reasons why it didn't happen.

mindzeYe

8/14/19 10:57pm

That doesn’t make sense. Colorado was already in. They just needed

idacoug

8/14/19 11:01pm

Exactly. Boom goes the dynamite 🧨 n that fake narrative.

8/14/19 11:04pm

Oh gosh

chazen

8/15/19 10:34am

Whatever. I offered no dates when these exploratory discussions took place.

mindzeYe

8/14/19 11:42pm

In the 90s, yes. You would be correct.

BYUHgrad

8/15/19 6:14am

This is absoloutely correct. Amazing how things basically reveresed except one

idacoug

8/15/19 9:00am

not talking about the 90s. This is 2008-2010 time frame.

mindzeYe

8/15/19 9:30am

I don’t think byutv did reply’s back then.

BYUHgrad

8/15/19 10:17pm

LOL. You’re serious? Just no. PAC12 took Colorado first then added Utah. So stop.

8/14/19 11:03pm

nonsensical response.

mindzeYe

8/15/19 12:15am

So glad you know more than the OP who actually knows his stuff

chazen

8/15/19 10:35am

I can believe #1. I don't believe #2 for a second.

KingDave

8/14/19 11:04pm

I added the word "replay" which makes it more clear

mindzeYe

8/14/19 11:58pm

The Pac-12 was "never an option" for BYU. BYU never even received a "courtesy

Ute in DC

8/14/19 11:13pm

true, never an option for both reasons stated. But TH has a spin

mindzeYe

8/14/19 11:55pm

TrueTrue, is that you?

8/14/19 11:27pm

changed Pac-12 to Pac-10 and added a few notes for clarity

mindzeYe

8/15/19 12:14am

Ya gotta love the creative history of supposed insiders.

CougarThug

8/15/19 1:16am

prove it incorrect with a source

mindzeYe

8/15/19 2:16am

i get it ...

mindzeYe

8/15/19 3:06am

Is that Mark Bragg?

BlueFrog

8/15/19 5:58am

yes.

mindzeYe

8/15/19 8:02am

Wow. You are the older gentleman, I presume?

TRUE_BLUE_COUGY

8/15/19 6:06am

yes.

mindzeYe

8/15/19 8:03am

You did a coffee table book?

The Dude Abides

8/15/19 8:38am

i'm sure it ended up on some coffee tables.

mindzeYe

8/15/19 8:52am

Man, based on pix 2 and 3 I should write a book!, haha!

BleedCougarBlue2

8/15/19 12:19pm

What about Sunday replay? That's the real doozie!

8/15/19 5:01am

WAIT!!! The Dude is on CB?

whiteninja

8/15/19 5:27am

Sunday play will always be a sticking point and non-starter for full conference

NewMexiCoug

8/15/19 5:38am

Extra money from FB would Trump that in a second

Pretorian

8/15/19 5:43am

You really think BYU adds that much to a P5 conference that the other

NewMexiCoug

8/15/19 5:49am

BAma cougs Howe’s mountains of data indicating the value of BYU over

Pretorian

8/15/19 11:52am

Love BamaCoug's information. I agree that we were the logical choice for the PAC

NewMexiCoug

8/15/19 4:24pm

Think man, just bc BYU doesn’t play on Sunday it doesn’t mean other teams can’t

Pretorian

8/15/19 5:39pm

Sorry, but I work with some influential U Texas fans and that was the first

NewMexiCoug

8/15/19 8:12pm

They could say that at first glance but once they thought about it they’d get

Pretorian

8/16/19 5:56am

That is my point. The added value we might bring is not worth the upset to the

NewMexiCoug

8/16/19 6:12am

Your point is logical I just think the main sports have enough

Pretorian

8/17/19 8:20am

UU wasn't chosen "over" BYU

mindzeYe

8/15/19 9:21pm

I don’t follow your logic?

Pretorian

8/18/19 10:10am

Why the capitol T? Was the president involved?

Croweater

8/15/19 8:21am

Completely unintentional

Pretorian

8/15/19 11:53am

This....

Pretorian

8/15/19 5:41am

This is such a garbage post

8/15/19 5:46am

Utter garbage. No need to say anything about this. If you're going to make stuff up, at least make it semi-believable

Adrielle

8/15/19 6:06am

Why would he make something up and then out himself IRL?

dchandle15

8/15/19 6:45am

I don't believe him one bit. If someone gave him this information, it's false

Adrielle

8/15/19 12:58pm

That's a great opinion you have there. Care to share any facts?

GigantorCat

8/15/19 1:04pm

I’m glad that someone at least shared something from a PAC 12 source. Usually

dchandle15

8/15/19 7:01pm

Perhaps this is true. But it gets no mention in media write-ups that have circulated since that year...

Tokolosh

8/15/19 6:17am

Media wouldn't know this because no offer was ever made

mindzeYe

8/15/19 9:07am

Many of the stories delve into more than offers made. This just isn't in those stories, even as an in passing mention.

Tokolosh

8/15/19 10:23am

Enough about this, what are your suggestions for picking a good suit?

TEXAS

8/15/19 6:19am

No capes

Powerbait DPM studnt

8/15/19 10:51am

If BYU allows byutv to be the sticking point that prevents them from getting into an P5 conference, then they're too

foofcoug

8/15/19 7:08am

They said Sunday play and TV rights. Seems like a negotiation ploy. BYU knows

thecthdox

8/15/19 9:11am

entirely possible ...

mindzeYe

8/15/19 7:55pm

RE: Pac-10 wanted BYU with Utah ... 2 simple reasons why it didn't happen.

kansascougar

8/15/19 7:08am

RE: Pac-10 wanted BYU with Utah ... 2 simple reasons why it didn't happen.

Lolo

8/15/19 7:22am

But this destroys the CB narrative that everyone is out to get BYU

8/15/19 7:24am

While also supporting he narrative that BYU was wanted more than Utah was...

Eddie

8/15/19 9:30am

While also falsely assuming any of this is true.

ochobeeguy

8/15/19 10:05am

Well of course! That's what makes narratives fun!

Eddie

8/15/19 10:07am

You're way off base if you think ...

mindzeYe

8/16/19 10:02pm

And you're off base if you think I'm sharing what I think.

Eddie

8/18/19 7:40am

Despite decades of working together the Sunday play was creating issues with MWC

BYUtka

8/15/19 7:45am

It's been my experience that true insiders never betray the trust

Everyman

8/15/19 7:59am

Thanks. You get it.

mindzeYe

8/15/19 9:11am

When does the MWC ever play anything on Sunday, even today?

Richbyu

8/15/19 10:16am

I know they did some WBB on Sunday back when we were in the conference.

NewMexiCoug

8/15/19 4:36pm

This always comes up. The PAC didn't want us because we aren't liberal enough.

Mattattack159

8/15/19 8:10am

you parrot the convenient rumor

mindzeYe

8/15/19 8:41pm

RE: Pac-10 wanted BYU with Utah ... 2 simple reasons why it didn't happen.

UberDeek

8/15/19 8:27am

You missed the religious affiliation as a key factor

Cougarpride

8/15/19 8:34am

he said those two points were non-negotiable for both sides

mindzeYe

8/15/19 8:50am

I believe those who were involved in the discussions a few decades ago and

Cougarpride

8/15/19 11:40am

share what you know about the 90s discussion. This is about 2008-2011

mindzeYe

8/15/19 8:00pm

If you read my post I touched on both time frames

Cougarpride

8/15/19 8:14pm

just recycled CB rumors

mindzeYe

8/17/19 11:25am

sorry - this is patently false

oskiute

8/15/19 8:46am

All excuses for “we don’t want a religious institution”. Belief in god doesn’t

travelcoug

8/15/19 8:56am

Can't dispute that, but ...

mindzeYe

8/15/19 9:26am

It really is true though.

DocPimp

8/15/19 4:18pm

that line will get blown up if there ever is another expansion and ...

mindzeYe

8/15/19 8:50pm

Agreed. But I doubt that happens. The Pac is actually

DocPimp

8/15/19 11:18pm

I agree.

idacoug

8/15/19 9:02am

what I shared happened before Larry Scott ever was hired

mindzeYe

8/17/19 11:27am

The only way that this might be partly true is that the ADs probably wanted BYU

8/15/19 9:14am

consider for a moment that

mindzeYe

8/15/19 9:35am

Casual discussions between ADs (which Holmoe says never happened)...

8/15/19 11:50am

misreading

mindzeYe

8/15/19 8:33pm

The ADs are not the ones who vett potential candidates.

Everyman

8/15/19 12:04pm

Wow, bring some credible info & get skewered. CB never disappoints

pegushin

8/15/19 9:25am

Actually only one reason not two. 1) c Religion

8/15/19 9:27am

I want to believe this but it just doesn't add up.

8/15/19 9:35am

#Fakenews

8/15/19 9:53am

I always thought the Coca-Cola thing was the deal breaker

Tsisquan

8/15/19 10:19am

Larry scott specifically mentioned culture

kansascougar

8/15/19 12:33pm

Sure, that's his spin

mindzeYe

8/15/19 8:47pm

If we could get into a P-5 now I'd be willing to drop the BYU-TV rights....

BleedCougarBlue2

8/15/19 1:46pm

Its possible under a 2008-2010 timeframe. That would have preceded Larry Scott.

Josef K

8/15/19 3:16pm

It doesn't matter if it was the 90's, 2011, etc... The fact is BYU

blackshirts

8/16/19 7:44am

ADs have their hands tied with no-play Sunday

mindzeYe

8/16/19 9:55pm

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