What do economics have to do with appropriation of money? ROI is one thing

Sep 10, 2019
1:26:34pm

coug almighty All-American

I doubt the only motivation for city creek was ROI in the literal sense--to the same point, the added value to the university and church via BYU football could be similar to what was gained in the case of city creek.

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The BoT doesn't want to write $2M checks to multiple people

stoils

9/10/19 10:44am

We don't need the checks from the Church. Just let us spend the money the football team and donors bring in

YIsForBrigham

9/10/19 10:45am

So are all donations to a general athletic fund? Booster money doesn't go

coug almighty

9/10/19 10:48am

BYU does not bring in P5 money. Our fans donate the equivalent of a good G5 school.

indocoug

9/10/19 1:04pm

This could be changed, the cougar club is just scratching the surface of what

4mack

9/10/19 1:40pm

There are creative ways to get the money in the door without a "check" from the

mudpupper

9/10/19 10:47am

So how do these wards view the church handing money to a state school?

1984coug

9/10/19 10:50am

I know how I view it.

crack

9/10/19 11:00am

Most schools pay coaches with booster money

Josef K

9/10/19 10:53am

Add in fancy practice facilities and locker rooms when my EQ is given a $100

mudpupper

9/10/19 11:00am

While that's typical it's also up to the discretion of the Bishop to decide

Schultz is back

9/10/19 11:11am

I hate going to the activities. Money saved.

coolblue

9/10/19 12:10pm

Doesn't the AD earn their own money but really isn't allowed to decide how to

mudpupper

9/10/19 11:08am

So their membership in the church is contingent on receiving a monetary benefit? More money already flows into those

Pimpin4Paradise

9/10/19 11:09am

I didn't say it's contingent

stoils

9/10/19 11:20am

There are two problems, money and talent. Might as well not try to fix one

VegasCoug

9/10/19 11:09am

I somewhat agree. The BOT doesn’t really want to advertise how much any church

USMCdad

9/10/19 11:48am

The living expense is a salary.

coolblue

9/10/19 12:12pm

It might be a "salary" but I guarantee it isn't very much. Enough to live on,..

BleedCougarBlue2

9/10/19 1:20pm

I disagree. Multiple coaches are not paid $2M because

kapcreations

9/10/19 12:18pm

On a more serious note, the real reason is budgetary

kapcreations

9/10/19 12:20pm

Further, football furthers the mission of BYU

kapcreations

9/10/19 12:24pm

Non-Issue. Different Coffers. The Football team brings in plenty of revenue

OGSuperfan

9/10/19 12:19pm

Just wondering as I don’t know who the guys from Stanford, USC and Utah you

Bullrider

9/10/19 12:26pm

Maybe, maybe not. They should be though. Every member is HC eligible

stoils

9/10/19 12:57pm

What about spending billions on malls in downtown SLC. People in other regions

Zak

9/10/19 12:29pm

Exactly.

Bad Plus Fan

9/10/19 12:46pm

that's a for-profit business, resulting in even more revenue that can be used

Bostonblue

9/10/19 1:16pm

Right. But point is that the people in regions mentioned in the main post arent

Zak

9/10/19 2:55pm

They should. That mall helps fund more church buildings and missionaries.

Bostonblue

9/10/19 4:27pm

You really think wards in Bogota know or care about the coaches salary?

cougarnw

9/10/19 12:36pm

Not today, but with the availability of information and future development, yes

stoils

9/10/19 12:57pm

Then why did they build a 5 billion dollar mall?

Bad Plus Fan

9/10/19 12:45pm

do none of ya'll understand economics?

Bostonblue

9/10/19 1:17pm

What do economics have to do with appropriation of money? ROI is one thing

coug almighty

9/10/19 1:26pm

it's apples and oranges. One is a for-profit business. The other is a non-profit

Bostonblue

9/10/19 1:40pm

You didn't answer my question. Anyways, if you think anything the church

coug almighty

9/10/19 2:19pm

I answered your question. ROI is the primary purpose for-profit business.

Bostonblue

9/10/19 2:25pm

Holdings vs actively managing... The list goes on and on, Des News, KSL, Deseret

coug almighty

9/10/19 2:34pm

I'm not trying to argue over whether there are other factors that may impact

Bostonblue

9/10/19 2:48pm

Completly agree. I just don't think the Mall or the football team is analyzed

coug almighty

9/10/19 2:57pm

I think church leadership is absolutely looking at ROI. And they are dang good

Bostonblue

9/10/19 4:29pm

The leaders of the Church decided to build the downtown SLC mall to....

BleedCougarBlue2

9/10/19 1:24pm

Maybe it's time to move his house to LES.

coug almighty

9/10/19 1:28pm

This

charles

9/10/19 1:47pm

I think the bigger issue is there aren't LDS coaches worth paying more

runnincoug

9/10/19 1:23pm

Just not true. Reed would come from the NFL

allwhitejerseys

9/10/19 4:40pm

Doubt it

I'mBatman

9/10/19 9:09pm

They're not. And they don't have to because the AD can write its own checks.

Turnpike Lane

9/10/19 1:27pm

Wow. Just dreaming what it would be like if BYU could literally get "all" the..

BleedCougarBlue2

9/10/19 1:28pm

Not sure if serious but yes. Easily top 25 every year if every top LDS player came to BYU

YIsForBrigham

9/10/19 2:24pm

They have the perception problem whehter they spend $10 million in the aggregate

Pasadena

9/10/19 2:06pm

Yeah it's all relative. With that argument you might be able to disband BYU

coug almighty

9/10/19 2:23pm

The BYU football team always makes more than they spend.

oldrugger

9/10/19 2:39pm

Again, a shopping mall comes to mind. BYU football is an investment.

Dr MoBYU

9/10/19 3:20pm

City Creek was an investment in the real estate around Temple Square and

Emmett Fitz-Hume

9/10/19 3:53pm

You can thank Rocky Anderson for that. Because of him the church bought a bunch

Coug Dude

9/10/19 4:57pm

It’s clearly not tired. Also, church has millions in grazing land acreage.

Dr MoBYU

9/10/19 7:54pm

What do church real estate holding outside of downtown SLC have to with CC mall?

Emmett Fitz-Hume

9/11/19 4:23pm

Church has all sorts of holdings is the point. BYU is a great place to invest.

Dr MoBYU

9/12/19 12:00am

HCO Fear, is a real thing. Many have not gone to BYU because

Coug Dude

9/10/19 4:56pm

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