and totally ignoring the present and what IS. You're going back to the past and playing "what is supposed to be." What was supposed to be doesn't always happen. We know very well there's a big list of 4 star guys who did nothing at BYU. This is like oxcoug trying to argue that even though Badger had been in college for a while at the time and hadn't done anything, he was still going going to end up great "Because he has to. Look at that offer list he had out of HS!!!!" Even though that offer list was years old.

You can't play a what-if game when guys are already in college doing things. You haven't really argued against this. You just keep saying something can't happen based on HS recruiting services from years ago.

You're also trying to factor in guys going to the NFL. That also has nothing to do with this. You can be a talented, pretty dang good college player and not go pro. Has nothing to do with whether or not you had talent. That level is for the best of the best. It's not a knock on guys who don't make it. More people don't.
This logic would be like trying to argue that Cody Hoffman wasn't a talented and productive college player, because he didn't make it pro. Or who knows how many guys every year.

Pretty ridiculous to set a ceiling for someone based on no fact, no reason other than "they weren't SUPPOSED to turn out any good." Yeah well neither was the big list of pro bowlers who fell in that "weren't supposed to" category years ago.
Also crazy that you're refusing to factor the impact of the new system on these guys. I don't think you realize how much work these guys needed. Not because of their talent and potential. Because the previous staff had a system that didn't require them to learn as much and have their bodies be a certain way.

If you skip to this part, forget everything I just said and really just go back to your first post and re read it. How ridiculous it sounds. You created a direct absolute correlation between two things that just don't matter. It has no basis.