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Jan 23, 2017
12:52:57pm

ManicBlue All-American

How can you justify your comment that

'Anae's O would have produced more points this year for sure.'?

Over the course of Anae's tenure as OC, BYU averaged 24.56 pts/game against P5 opponents. Detmer's offense averaged 23.67 pts/game ... not exactly the glaring difference you were expecting I'm sure.

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ManicBlue

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If Andrew Eide makes an NFL roster or even a scout team...

ag4cougs

1/23/17 9:51am

OL was bad in pass pro mostly. Generally solid in run blocking.

fulano

1/23/17 9:52am

Agree.

TheLoneCougar

1/23/17 9:53am

the odds are against Eide making a NFL roster. Aren't your other 2 the same guy?

4mack

1/23/17 9:54am

Shoaf was freshman all-american this year

gmj81

1/23/17 9:56am

Koroma gets a lot of love from OL wonks. Shoaf was Fresh AA.

ag4cougs

1/23/17 9:59am

RE: Koroma gets a lot of love from OL wonks. Shoaf was Fresh AA.

Lionaround

1/23/17 2:08pm

The scheme is much worse than most of CB is willing to admit

Jericho

1/23/17 9:54am

I dont know if he is in over his head or not, but what we do know is his

OC Coug

1/23/17 10:17am

Detmer's Scheme is fine

GeauxCougs

1/23/17 11:01am

That last statement is all that matters, offense should be rolling next year

OC Coug

1/23/17 11:20am

I hope so. Problem is that Detmer's scheme demands some real talent

Jericho

1/23/17 11:36am

This isn't incredibly true. Detmer's passing game is based on a West Coast

TheLoneCougar

1/23/17 12:25pm

Ok, so we just need Jerry Rice...

Jericho

1/23/17 12:29pm

Exactly what I said, to the T.

TheLoneCougar

1/23/17 12:50pm

In other words, our scheme doesn't fit our personnel

Jericho

1/23/17 1:23pm

Yes, that is generally what happens when new coaches come in and change up the

TheLoneCougar

1/23/17 1:43pm

I hope he does. I think a lot of that will be him adapting to the college game

Jericho

1/23/17 1:57pm

I think it will work out, but that is just opinion.

TheLoneCougar

1/23/17 1:59pm

I do like our staff.

Jericho

1/23/17 2:04pm

This is why I expect this year to be a step backwards

Bgash

1/23/17 2:22pm

I agree with your assessment. That is why it is more important than ever for

Jericho

1/23/17 2:27pm

I see what you're saying. That's a tough balance for a new OC though.

Bgash

1/23/17 2:39pm

You don't say!!! The scheme would work with talent across all positions?

reddead

1/23/17 2:32pm

You can do more with less if you are willing to compromise with the scheme

Jericho

1/23/17 2:45pm

I don't think the scheme or the creativity was "fine"

1/23/17 11:48am

Remind me ... who do you coach for again? Obviously,

ManicBlue

1/23/17 12:18pm

He is a fan who expects offensive production

OC Coug

1/23/17 12:25pm

RE: He is a fan who expects offensive production

ManicBlue

1/23/17 12:47pm

And you are proving to have less knowledge

OC Coug

1/23/17 1:51pm

RE: And you are proving to have less knowledge

ManicBlue

1/23/17 2:16pm

They gave up 9th most points in the conference YES THEY DID

OC Coug

1/23/17 2:53pm

Uh ... what year are you referring to because it obviously isn't this year.

ManicBlue

1/23/17 3:05pm

another way to cover up for poor pass protection is getting rid of the ball on..

icecougar

1/23/17 1:54pm

good points.

ag4cougs

1/23/17 2:38pm

I think the part about Anae is very true.

CosmoK

1/23/17 11:59am

How can you justify your comment that

ManicBlue

1/23/17 12:52pm

He had a Sr QB, Sr RB and an improved OL coming back this year

Jericho

1/23/17 1:27pm

Don't forget that Taysom is a career 59% passer. Didn't matter if it was under

TheLoneCougar

1/23/17 1:46pm

True, but he was showing improvement under Anae as demonstrated in '14 & '15

Jericho

1/23/17 1:54pm

Pretty small sample size in '15 don't you think? Not to mention that

ManicBlue

1/23/17 2:21pm

Sure, which is why I combined it with '14

Jericho

1/23/17 2:25pm

RE: Sure, which is why I combined it with '14

ManicBlue

1/23/17 2:45pm

His numbers were worse this year in almost every measurable category

Jericho

1/23/17 2:49pm

RE: His numbers were worse this year in almost every measurable category

ManicBlue

1/23/17 2:52pm

We didn't play that hard of a schedule this year, sorry...

Jericho

1/23/17 2:57pm

How often have we played 6 P5 teams (with 2 final top 25 teams)?

ManicBlue

1/23/17 3:14pm

Our SOS was #75... nothing special at all

Jericho

1/23/17 4:19pm

You're too funny

ManicBlue

1/23/17 5:01pm

Thanks to a really good D that got a lot of turnovers

Jericho

1/23/17 5:05pm

RE: Thanks to a really good D that got a lot of turnovers

ManicBlue

1/23/17 7:56pm

It isn't the OC that is throwing the ball. Taysom regressed and that isn't

TheLoneCougar

1/23/17 2:46pm

hahahaha ... good try

ManicBlue

1/23/17 1:48pm

So you think Anae's system was the reason for Taysom's injury at Nebraska?

gmj81

1/23/17 1:53pm

err ... Taysom's 2nd and 3rd season ending injuries were under Anae but who's

ManicBlue

1/23/17 2:19pm

so by your logic, Taysom's 4th is all Detmer's fault?

gmj81

1/23/17 2:45pm

own problems more to do with Detmer than himself? haha zing right out the window

southernfriedcougar

1/23/17 6:51pm

Don't forget that our D got a ton of turnovers and short fields for this offense

Jericho

1/23/17 2:28pm

Lack of vertical passing or a TE game didn't help either.

mudpupper

1/23/17 9:56am

amen. Xs and Os were really bad.

ag4cougs

1/23/17 10:00am

I think the jury is still out if that was Detmer's fault or not

mudpupper

1/23/17 10:05am

Most of the guys could be NFL run blockers, but hardly D1 pass blockers

Sir_Ten

1/23/17 10:02am

hardly D1 pass blockers? come on.

ag4cougs

1/23/17 10:10am

If your QB isn't an anticipation thrower then yes the OL will take

OC Coug

1/23/17 10:09am

How I saw it, as well.

BYUHgrad

1/23/17 2:30pm

generally true, but byufilms recorded the pocket times for the utah game

g$

1/23/17 3:08pm

Do they exclude the one step drop plays thrown to the wrong shoulder

OC Coug

1/23/17 4:57pm

No they don't, video embeded

g$

1/24/17 9:24am

How do they measure that?

Bgash

1/23/17 6:45pm

I think he got better as the year went on, granted the schedule was tougher

jvr7

1/23/17 10:23am

If Eide makes a roster, it won't be at LT. Remember that.

1/23/17 10:24am

definitely a guard.

ag4cougs

1/23/17 10:29am

This year's line was not very talented

donnerstag

1/23/17 10:29am

Possible NFL talent at LT, top-graded center, Fresh AA RT. decent talent.

ag4cougs

1/23/17 10:31am

Need to have full line of decent talent to be great...too much inconsistency

FMOCIE

1/23/17 8:41pm

What the heck do offers have to do with talent?

southernfriedcougar

1/23/17 11:32am

Let's be real

donnerstag

1/23/17 11:38am

Let's be real. Many of them have talent.

southernfriedcougar

1/23/17 6:11pm

I am not saying they don't have any talent

donnerstag

1/23/17 7:15pm

Yes, and I asked what their recruitment has anything to do with their talent,

southernfriedcougar

1/23/17 7:28pm

There is typically a correlation between how highly someone is recruiting and

donnerstag

1/23/17 7:55pm

You're still trying to look at old meaningless numbers

southernfriedcougar

1/23/17 9:03pm

Let's just cut to the nitty gritty

donnerstag

1/23/17 11:10pm

"This year's line is not very talented" ---- based on recruiting stars?

ag4cougs

1/23/17 8:43pm

Eide was playing out of position to be fair. But clearly he turned enough heads

TheLoneCougar

1/23/17 1:13pm

Plenty of blame to go around

Deadpool

1/23/17 10:40am

I hope he makes it.

wilsdad

1/23/17 10:51am

The OL play, even in pass protect was bad the first half of the season

g$

1/23/17 12:32pm

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