RE: He is a fan who expects offensive production

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Jan 23, 2017
12:47:41pm

ManicBlue All-American

RE: He is a fan who expects offensive production

and there were very good reasons why it wasn't. It wasn't Detmer's scheme or understanding of how to run an offense. It was primarily due to having less talent on the field than the schools you listed.

It's one thing to state your opinion and another to try and pass it off as fact unless you're qualified to do so.

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If Andrew Eide makes an NFL roster or even a scout team...

ag4cougs

1/23/17 9:51am

OL was bad in pass pro mostly. Generally solid in run blocking.

fulano

1/23/17 9:52am

Agree.

TheLoneCougar

1/23/17 9:53am

the odds are against Eide making a NFL roster. Aren't your other 2 the same guy?

4mack

1/23/17 9:54am

Shoaf was freshman all-american this year

gmj81

1/23/17 9:56am

Koroma gets a lot of love from OL wonks. Shoaf was Fresh AA.

ag4cougs

1/23/17 9:59am

RE: Koroma gets a lot of love from OL wonks. Shoaf was Fresh AA.

Lionaround

1/23/17 2:08pm

The scheme is much worse than most of CB is willing to admit

Jericho

1/23/17 9:54am

I dont know if he is in over his head or not, but what we do know is his

OC Coug

1/23/17 10:17am

Detmer's Scheme is fine

GeauxCougs

1/23/17 11:01am

That last statement is all that matters, offense should be rolling next year

OC Coug

1/23/17 11:20am

I hope so. Problem is that Detmer's scheme demands some real talent

Jericho

1/23/17 11:36am

This isn't incredibly true. Detmer's passing game is based on a West Coast

TheLoneCougar

1/23/17 12:25pm

Ok, so we just need Jerry Rice...

Jericho

1/23/17 12:29pm

Exactly what I said, to the T.

TheLoneCougar

1/23/17 12:50pm

In other words, our scheme doesn't fit our personnel

Jericho

1/23/17 1:23pm

Yes, that is generally what happens when new coaches come in and change up the

TheLoneCougar

1/23/17 1:43pm

I hope he does. I think a lot of that will be him adapting to the college game

Jericho

1/23/17 1:57pm

I think it will work out, but that is just opinion.

TheLoneCougar

1/23/17 1:59pm

I do like our staff.

Jericho

1/23/17 2:04pm

This is why I expect this year to be a step backwards

Bgash

1/23/17 2:22pm

I agree with your assessment. That is why it is more important than ever for

Jericho

1/23/17 2:27pm

I see what you're saying. That's a tough balance for a new OC though.

Bgash

1/23/17 2:39pm

You don't say!!! The scheme would work with talent across all positions?

reddead

1/23/17 2:32pm

You can do more with less if you are willing to compromise with the scheme

Jericho

1/23/17 2:45pm

I don't think the scheme or the creativity was "fine"

1/23/17 11:48am

Remind me ... who do you coach for again? Obviously,

ManicBlue

1/23/17 12:18pm

He is a fan who expects offensive production

OC Coug

1/23/17 12:25pm

RE: He is a fan who expects offensive production

ManicBlue

1/23/17 12:47pm

And you are proving to have less knowledge

OC Coug

1/23/17 1:51pm

RE: And you are proving to have less knowledge

ManicBlue

1/23/17 2:16pm

They gave up 9th most points in the conference YES THEY DID

OC Coug

1/23/17 2:53pm

Uh ... what year are you referring to because it obviously isn't this year.

ManicBlue

1/23/17 3:05pm

another way to cover up for poor pass protection is getting rid of the ball on..

icecougar

1/23/17 1:54pm

good points.

ag4cougs

1/23/17 2:38pm

I think the part about Anae is very true.

CosmoK

1/23/17 11:59am

How can you justify your comment that

ManicBlue

1/23/17 12:52pm

He had a Sr QB, Sr RB and an improved OL coming back this year

Jericho

1/23/17 1:27pm

Don't forget that Taysom is a career 59% passer. Didn't matter if it was under

TheLoneCougar

1/23/17 1:46pm

True, but he was showing improvement under Anae as demonstrated in '14 & '15

Jericho

1/23/17 1:54pm

Pretty small sample size in '15 don't you think? Not to mention that

ManicBlue

1/23/17 2:21pm

Sure, which is why I combined it with '14

Jericho

1/23/17 2:25pm

RE: Sure, which is why I combined it with '14

ManicBlue

1/23/17 2:45pm

His numbers were worse this year in almost every measurable category

Jericho

1/23/17 2:49pm

RE: His numbers were worse this year in almost every measurable category

ManicBlue

1/23/17 2:52pm

We didn't play that hard of a schedule this year, sorry...

Jericho

1/23/17 2:57pm

How often have we played 6 P5 teams (with 2 final top 25 teams)?

ManicBlue

1/23/17 3:14pm

Our SOS was #75... nothing special at all

Jericho

1/23/17 4:19pm

You're too funny

ManicBlue

1/23/17 5:01pm

Thanks to a really good D that got a lot of turnovers

Jericho

1/23/17 5:05pm

RE: Thanks to a really good D that got a lot of turnovers

ManicBlue

1/23/17 7:56pm

It isn't the OC that is throwing the ball. Taysom regressed and that isn't

TheLoneCougar

1/23/17 2:46pm

hahahaha ... good try

ManicBlue

1/23/17 1:48pm

So you think Anae's system was the reason for Taysom's injury at Nebraska?

gmj81

1/23/17 1:53pm

err ... Taysom's 2nd and 3rd season ending injuries were under Anae but who's

ManicBlue

1/23/17 2:19pm

so by your logic, Taysom's 4th is all Detmer's fault?

gmj81

1/23/17 2:45pm

own problems more to do with Detmer than himself? haha zing right out the window

southernfriedcougar

1/23/17 6:51pm

Don't forget that our D got a ton of turnovers and short fields for this offense

Jericho

1/23/17 2:28pm

Lack of vertical passing or a TE game didn't help either.

mudpupper

1/23/17 9:56am

amen. Xs and Os were really bad.

ag4cougs

1/23/17 10:00am

I think the jury is still out if that was Detmer's fault or not

mudpupper

1/23/17 10:05am

Most of the guys could be NFL run blockers, but hardly D1 pass blockers

Sir_Ten

1/23/17 10:02am

hardly D1 pass blockers? come on.

ag4cougs

1/23/17 10:10am

If your QB isn't an anticipation thrower then yes the OL will take

OC Coug

1/23/17 10:09am

How I saw it, as well.

BYUHgrad

1/23/17 2:30pm

generally true, but byufilms recorded the pocket times for the utah game

g$

1/23/17 3:08pm

Do they exclude the one step drop plays thrown to the wrong shoulder

OC Coug

1/23/17 4:57pm

No they don't, video embeded

g$

1/24/17 9:24am

How do they measure that?

Bgash

1/23/17 6:45pm

I think he got better as the year went on, granted the schedule was tougher

jvr7

1/23/17 10:23am

If Eide makes a roster, it won't be at LT. Remember that.

1/23/17 10:24am

definitely a guard.

ag4cougs

1/23/17 10:29am

This year's line was not very talented

donnerstag

1/23/17 10:29am

Possible NFL talent at LT, top-graded center, Fresh AA RT. decent talent.

ag4cougs

1/23/17 10:31am

Need to have full line of decent talent to be great...too much inconsistency

FMOCIE

1/23/17 8:41pm

What the heck do offers have to do with talent?

southernfriedcougar

1/23/17 11:32am

Let's be real

donnerstag

1/23/17 11:38am

Let's be real. Many of them have talent.

southernfriedcougar

1/23/17 6:11pm

I am not saying they don't have any talent

donnerstag

1/23/17 7:15pm

Yes, and I asked what their recruitment has anything to do with their talent,

southernfriedcougar

1/23/17 7:28pm

There is typically a correlation between how highly someone is recruiting and

donnerstag

1/23/17 7:55pm

You're still trying to look at old meaningless numbers

southernfriedcougar

1/23/17 9:03pm

Let's just cut to the nitty gritty

donnerstag

1/23/17 11:10pm

"This year's line is not very talented" ---- based on recruiting stars?

ag4cougs

1/23/17 8:43pm

Eide was playing out of position to be fair. But clearly he turned enough heads

TheLoneCougar

1/23/17 1:13pm

Plenty of blame to go around

Deadpool

1/23/17 10:40am

I hope he makes it.

wilsdad

1/23/17 10:51am

The OL play, even in pass protect was bad the first half of the season

g$

1/23/17 12:32pm

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